AS MUSLIMS FLEE FROM SHARIA RUN SARAJEVO JEWISH LEADERS MUST SPEAK OUT

This should be investigated by all Jewish people, by all Jewish blogs, and in particular by Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.

If this proves to be the case then it is necessary to make an overall analysis of the whole of the US NATO cum British war against Yugoslavia AND THE PART PLAYED IN THAT WAR BY JEWISH LEADERS AND JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY AMERICAN. Quite simple isn´t it!

Time to fight for principle. Time to fight for uniy between the great Serb and the great historical Jewish peoples.

As we speak the President of the US is LEADING the Jihad against Israel. The recent meeting between Netanyahu and Obama is a holding operation by Netanyahu.

Netanyahu knows very well that Obama is biding his time due to the November elections in America.

After that Obama and US imperialism cum NATO will turn on Israel with a vengeance. Their aim is to destroy the great jewish people and the great jewish Homeland.

The spearhead of this attack and Jihad is the “Palestinians”, this whole concept of Jihad, which is EXACTLY what you had in Bosnia, and do not forget for a second that the Christian Serb Karadzic is on trial in the NATO Hague Court.

Will these Jewish porganizations like Israpundit under Belman remain silent…always silent?

Time for Jewish leaders in America and Israel to speak up!

Bosnian Croats Moving to Republic of Srpska

Jun 19th, 2009 | By De-Construct.net | In Bosnia, Bytes ‘n Bits, Earlier, Former Yugoslavia

Sarajevo today
Sarajevo today, turning into a “European Tehran”

Sarajevo Turning into European Tehran

According to Leo Pločkinić, President of the Mostar-based NGO Croatia Libertas, a growing number of Croat families are selling their property in the capital of the Croat-Muslim federation of post-Dayton Bosnia and Herzegovina, and moving to East Sarajevo municipalities, in the Bosnian Serb Republic (Republika Srpska, RS).

Pločkinić cited the latest example of several Croat families who said they feared for their safety and moved from the Sarajevo settlement Stup to Lukavica in the Serbian part of country, in East Sarajevo.

“A straw that broke the camel’s back and destroyed the last traces of understanding is the behavior of the so-called religious police, which went as far as banishing a pig-shaped toy from the BBI [shopping] center few days ago. That is probably the best summary of modern-day Sarajevo that is slowly but surely turning into a European Tehran,” Pločkinić told Banja Luka daily Fokus.

He said that Sharia Police is nothing new in Bosnian federation, since radical Muslims have been causing headaches for the non-Muslim Sarajevo residents for years. Pločkinić reminded that members of the religious police were openly attacking couples in love and insisting on Bosnian Muslim girls and women being covered, according to the Islamic rules and traditions.

Chief Imam of Sarajevo Mosque wants to Institute Sharia Law

Nezim Halilovic Muderris during war
Nezim Halilovic Muderris during war

“Sharia Police is organized and headed by Nezim Halilovic Muderris, Chief Imam of the Bosnian King Fahd Mosque in Sarajevo. He is openly lobbying for Sharia Law to be institutionalized in Bosnia and Herzegovina, he is the man who greeted with open arms Wahhabis from around the world and it is he who spreads the inter-ethnic hatred and intolerance with his lectures in the mosque. Sarajevo Croats had enough of it already, so they decided to move away, to Republic of Srpska,” Pločkinić said.

While there is no reliable data about the number of Croats who have moved to Republic of Srpska from the federal part of Sarajevo, since “no one will ask property buyers what is their nationality”, Fokus found a notable rise in the number of non-Serb schoolchildren enrolled in Serbian Republic schools.

Mladenka Pandurević, Headmistress of the Grammar school “28 June” in East Sarajevo, confirmed for the daily that 39 students from the Croat-Muslim part of Sarajevo are attending classes in their school.

“Most of them are ethnic Croats. We also have a number of students of Croat nationality from Vogošća, who travel each day from their homes to school. Their parents insisted to have their children enrolled in our school, instead of somewhere in the Federation part of Sarajevo because, as they said, they do not feel their children are safe there,” Pandurević said.

She recalled a father of one of their students, Croat from Vogošća, who asked the school board through tears to allow his child to attend the Serb school in East Sarajevo. He told them his daughter was enrolled in a purely Muslim class in the Bosnian-Croat federation. After learning about the experience other parents of Croat nationality had with their children being shunned and verbally abused by the Muslim students, “the caring father wanted to spare his daughter the anguish”, Pandurević said.

http://de-construct.net/?p=6690

UNITE JEWS AND SERBS. DO NOT ALLOW THE ENEMY TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

Here has grown up a body of opinion in support of Israel and another body of support of Yugoslavia. It is necessary to unite these consciously in a mass movement against Imperialism and Islam. The struggle of the Jews is the struggle of the Serbs and vice versa.

Tim Pat Coogan is a very big figure in Irish ruling class circles. He has written books, of whatever quality the reader can decide, is part of the Irish “Establishment”, a person who Media producers have on the list to invite regularly on TV and Radio.

These circles are now doing a switch, from the Holocaust Denier Abbas, because Abbas is ineffectual, to support for Hamas. This is what Coogan has done.

So has Obama. They are all now on side with Hamas. There is a direct link to the destruction of Yugoslavia, to the creation of fake “massacrers”, to the hatred whipped up against the Serbs and precisely this.

It is now the turn of the Jews.

Just days ago this is the leader of Hamas, and is the group that Coogan and Obama want people to support, and to bring into the “process” in the same way they did with the IRA.

This is the key – without recognizing the Israeli enemy on a single inch of land.

(full extract below)

That is the central issue. That Obama and Coogan support THAT!

Leave aside that the Good Friday Agreement allowed out of prison in an Amnesty both Loyalist and IRA known killers. That is a terrible thing to the people who had their loved relatives murdered by these groups.

Leave that aside because the argument of Coogan is false. The IRA is not the antisemites of the Arab League, nor did the IRA ever have such an ideology of antisemitism behind it. While the protestant killers were never offensive, they were always defending, against the IRA onslaught. They were ruthless killers but not the same as the Jihad.

Coogan makes the comparision but there is none.

What was ranged against the Serbs and now against the Jews of Israel was essentially the Jihad, that doctrine which is essentially geo-political.

The Jihad aims to control all of the geographical area of the world.

It uses the “salami” approach, which is divide and conquer, and every strip that you gain – hold on to it and seek for more.

That technique is what was ranged against the Serb Christians all over Yugoslavia, especially  the Krajina, where the Croatian Fascists in the 1939 to 45 period were in alliance with Hitler, who was in alliance with the Islamic Jihad, concretized in his alliance with the Arab Palestinian monster hajj Amin el Husseini.

The whole approach of Izetbegovic in all of the 1990s, who was an associate of Hajj Amin el Husseini in that 1939-45 historical period, was to destroy Serbia in order to create a unitary Islamist Bosnian state, with NO Christians present.

Kosovo is also obviously a form of this “Salami” technique of warfare, from a Serb majority, to roughly equal pre war, to now with only 5 per cent of the population Serb Christian, 95 per cent Muslim.

There can be no more graphic example of Jihad than Kosovo!

In supporting Hamas Coogan is now so obviously also supporting Iran. Here is where small time Irish politics meets on the same ground as does Conspiracy Theorists

This is a swamp. In this situation the theory and practice of 4international is cutting through this muck.

We insist that we are moving into new forms of rule. State Fascism where bodies like the US, British Imperialism, the EU, UN and NATO operate without any rules on the international stage. This is what the ICTY Court in the Hague represents.

There is no mass movement in existence to back up this pretence of power and the ruling class needs such a mass movement.

In the absence of a mass movement of Fascist thugs taking over the streets as did the Nazis, the rulers in countries like the US and Britain have turned towards bodies such as Islam. In the Middle East this has meant building up the PA and now more and more Hamas. Big sections of the American military are backing not only Hamas but also Hizbullah. In Afghanistan all the signs are there that the Taliban will be also brought in from the cold and that they will have their hand on power, so leaving women and minorities once more at their mercy. Essentially it means: Those who gloried (danced in the streets) on hearing of the attack on the Twin Towers are being placed in power by US and British Imperialism

Up until this point the Jews have fought alone, the Serbs have fought alone.

Any of these leaders who now insist on doing this are indeed nothing less than traitors.

It is absolutely historically vital to join these two great struggles together in a major battle against Imperialism and Islam.

This is the role of 4international. You must join with us and enable us to conduct this great struggle for unity of the Serbs and Jews.

The danger in the following from Hamas spokesman we insist is not only to the Jews and to Israel. It is to all and especially to Serbs and Serbia:

“Hamas Leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar: Our Plan Is to Establish a Palestinian State Without Recognizing Israel and Without Giving Up the Right of Return,” from MEMRITV, June 15:

Following are excerpts from an interview with Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, which aired on Future News TV on June 15, 2010:

Mahmoud Al-Zahhar: We have liberated Gaza, but have we recognized Israel? Have we given up our lands occupied in 1948? We demand the liberation of the West Bank, and the establishment of a state in the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem as its capital – but without recognizing [Israel]. This is the key – without recognizing the Israeli enemy on a single inch of land.

This is our plan for this stage – to liberate the West Bank and Gaza, without recognizing Israel’s right to a single inch of land, and without giving up the Right of Return for a single Palestinian refugee.

[...]

Our plan for this stage is to liberate any inch of Palestinian land, and to establish a state on it. Our ultimate plan is [to have] Palestine in its entirety. I say this loud and clear so that nobody will accuse me of employing political tactics. We will not recognize the Israeli enemy.

As for the issue of a referendum – [the Palestinian Authority] is ready to impose its position on people by force. Whoever wants to hold a referendum, and believes that he can get all of Palestine for the Palestinians, can hold a referendum, but will not give up the platform of resistance, and the plan to liberate Palestine in its entirety. This is unequivocal.

[...]

If we could liberate the Negev now, we would continue [our military activity], but our capabilities dictate that after we got rid of the Israeli presence in Gaza, we must finish off the remnants of that occupation, and move on to the West Bank.

 

The guy from Hamas is saying: We go on until we wipe Israel off the map. That means killing all Jews.

In the great battles in Yugoslavia this same issue was disguised by the Media.

The aim of

  1. the imperialists
  2. the forces of Islam
  3. reactionary nationalist groups like the Croats and Slovenians

 

was the destruction of Serbian Christianity, because that WAS Yugoslavia. The Serbs were the cement which held Yugoslavia together.

The concept of holding Yugoslavia together as a federation was an entirely progressive one. The aim was the protection of minorities, so that each national minority coold continue to function and not literally be killed.

People must begin to understand that Stalinism, both its Russian Stalin variety, and Chinese Maoist variety, was essentially the revisionism of basic truths and proven concepts of Marxism, such as that there is one unified world economy, placed there by capitalism of course, and there is no going back from that towards “socialism in one country”.

In fact it was the Stalinist Tito who also set about liquidating the basic concepts of the Yugoslavian Federation.

Tito repressed the Serbs and gave everything to the Croats and Islamists of Bosnia and Kosovo.

Rather than Yugoslavia being a federation in which all national units could find a freedom, for the Serbs under Tito it had become a prison.

It was Tito and Stalinism which broke up Yugoslavia. Imperialism and Islam only used the cracks which Tito and Stalinism provided.

Note in the above quote from the Hamas leader there is the deep Fascist aim of destroying Israel, which is inconceivable without another great killing and expulsion of the Jews.

Yet that is the very person and organization now being promoted by Tim Pat Coogan of Ireland, and president Obama and his US War Generals.

That is exactly what happened to the Serbs in Yugoslavia.

  1. The Serbs in Krajina were massacred and sent on the run, their homes taken over by Fascist type Croats. Krajina was not (as is often thought by those who have not bothered to study it) an area of Croatia; rather it was a nation state, a national homeland which dated back to 1400 AD
  2. The Serbs in Bosnia were bombed, massacred and their leaders framed at the ICTY court
  3. The Serbs in Kosovo were driven out

 

Just look at the similarity to the Jews!

 

Such is the severe crisis of leadership among the Jewish people that land is actually being surrendered to the bitter enemy.

This is being done under the banner of “peace”.

Almost exact parallel!

The issue of Yugoslavia for Jews is crucial and is very urgent.

It is a matter of unity. The aim of Imperialism has always been to divide and conquer. In this sense the slogan of unity becomes a great and historical rallying cry for all those in struggles like this. The Serbs showed time and time again that they cried out for unity. Many Jews do likewise.

We on 4international will ask who in the leaders are seeking this unity, and if they oppose it we will ask why!

It is also a matter of education…To understand the means and methods that the enemy uses.

So Jews need to be fully aware that the Serbs on retaking Srebrenica did not murder a single Muslim, even though they were quite in their rights to execute on the spot known murderous fiends like the friends of Izetbegovic, guilty of the most barbarous crimes.

AS WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL WILL SOON PROVE!

Jews must be aware that Srebrenica was and is a giant hoax. That will help Jews to fight against Jenin, the Mohammed El Durra lie, the Dir Yassin lie, Qana etc. It will also prepare Jews in the present and future.

Indeed Yugoslavia raises for Jews the issue of leadership.

During the war against the Serbs three major Jewish organizations called the Serbs Nazis. They joined totally in the repression of the Serbs by Imperialism and Islam.

Clearly those (Jewish) organizations are not the friends of the Jews. They are the enemy of the Jews. But the task is that ordinary Jews see this as it is happening, not afterwards, because in a real sense there is NO afterwards, afterwards in these kinds of struggles is too late.

For this to actually happen we need to build 4international.

Only 4international fights for unity between Jews and Serbs.

THE BBC THIS MORNING KEEP HAMMERING THE BIG LIE OF SREBRENICA

Synopsis

David Rohde is an American journalist who won the Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on the worst massacre in Europe since the Second World War. He describes how he discovered the mass graves of Muslim men near the Bosnian town of Srebrenica.

The BBC has been running a programme on Srebrenica in the “witness” series, centring on David Rohde. The above “synopsis” is how they introduce this latest addition to the “Big Lie”!

If you want to listen it is on their website

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p008grpr

I have begun to transcribe this from tape which aired on BBC this morning (being transmitted around the world on the powerful World Service) and will complete the job later. I feel that it is important that this material become known. Naturally as we have said so often on this website the whole story of the “Srebrenica Massacre” was a Big Lie.

The Witness format is very short, just 10 minutes or so, inserted into other material not connected with the Balkans. Being so short is useful for the Big Lie technique, because the process of generalization takes over, and becomes a perfect vehicle for lies.

If you are reading this I hope it is obvious that I have placed comments in upper case, and that there is a narrator, and that I have placed the actual words of David Rohde in italics (the box outline)

Thousands of refugees are Fleeing towards Potocari

In the next few weeks reports of male refugees gone missing and reports started to emerge of Bosnian Serbs hunted them down.

NOTE THE USE OF THE TERMS LIKE “REPORTS OF”…THE BBC STARTS TO BUILD UP ITS LYING FEATURE

The US Secretary of State went to the United Nations to denounce their actions.

THE BBC BRINGS IN THE BIGGEST SINGLE LIAR OF THE WHOLE EPISODE AND PERIOD…MADELEINE ALBRIGHT

“There is a compelling case that there were wide scale atrocities committed in the area against defenceless civilians away from the battlefield area”

“THERE IS A COMPELLING CASE” THIS IS THE LANGUAGE OF A LIAR. THAT WAS HER CLAIM. THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE PRODUCED AT THAT UN MEETING

Secretary Albright showed satellite images if what appeared to be mass graves near Srebrenica. Those pictures attracted the attention of the young American reporter David Rohde.

OH REALLY! SATELLITE IMAGES! WHAT BECAME OF THOSE SATELLITE IMAGES AND IF THEY WERE SO REAL, SO AUTHENTIC, WHY HAVE NONE OF US EVER SEEN THEM SINCE. WHY HAVE WE AND THE WHOLE  WORLD NOT BEEN BOMBARDED WITH THIS VISUAL PROOF EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK SINCE. THE REASON IS SIMPLE. THE PICTURES OF ALBRIGHT WERE PHONEY.

Rohde speaks

“They are sort of before and after pictures of a soccer field that has no disturbed earth and then after the fall of Srebrenica there´s what appears to be large mass graves that have been dug in an area around these soccer fields in a village called Nova Kosiga”

What was driving you at that point?

I´d missed the fall of Srebrenica and I think part of not being there for the fall of the town was what motivated me to be aggressive in doing up the follow up work

 

So he headed for Nova Kasaba (?) and the soccer field

There were basically 4 slots of fresh digging in

There were 2 empty ammunition boxes

I found a piece of paper with some writing on it and it was actually notes from a town meeting in Srebrenica before the town fell

I also found an elementary school diploma that had a Muslim name on it

And the final thing and the most decisive evidence at this first site right in an area where there was fresh diggings

I could see jutting out of the ground part of the decomposing human leg

 

That must have turned your stomach

I was shocked and at one point a truck load of Bosnian soldiers had driven past. Myself and the Serbian journalist had waved at them to not look suspicious

They had continued driving along. It all did not seem real or these could not actually be mass graves

So when I saw the leg I was sort of stunned and it became instantly real

 

David Rohde published a report about his evidence of a mass grave site. His editors at the Christian Science Monitor then allowed him to stick with the story and he headed to a refugee camp where male survivors from Srebrenica had gathered

As he interviewed these witnesses David Rohde realized that there might be more mass graves

“The numbers that the survivors were giving me added up to in the thousands and I found that hard to believe. I thought that maybe hundreds it couldn’t be just as large as they say

But what was so troubling was that it was 9 different several of whom talked about executions. In separate interviews they gave different descriptions of the same site

The testimony of two men particularly stood out.

Described an execution that they had survived, first they were brought to a school and then the groups of men were loaded into the back of a pickup truck about a dozen at a time and then they were driven for about a mile and taken out of the truck. They were blindfolded or partially blindfolded and essentially lined up and  executed and both of them had described as lying under bodies at a time and having ants crawl across them. Mevlutin had hidden under his cousin´s corpse playing dead and at night time they had gotten up and emerged from this pile of corpses and together made their way out of the area and they talked about crossing a railroad tracks so I was personally interested in getting to that site to see if were telling the truth.

He then got help from a Western intelligence Official who marked up a map for him with possible further mass grave sites

More determined than ever to get the story David Rohde headed back alone to the Srebrenica area. He wanted to find the location mentioned by Mevlutin Oric and Hiriam Ciliac

(check on spelling of these names)

It took me quite a while to find it and it was on the other side of railroad tracks and I found this very large swathe of freshly turned earth. Dotted across it there were some berets and some shoes, Bosnian Muslim men tend to wear berets and by searching the woods near that area of fresh digging and found a pile of clothes and there were 3 canes in that pile and that seemed to collaborate what I had been told that older men had been killed and there were also jackets that belonged to civilians so  it would appear that between the fresh digging itself and the clothes and the canes that civilians had been killed at that execution site. As I was driving out I saw that on the other side of the road was a school and essentially everything they had described to me was exactly true

I then set out for the second site which was an earthen dam go there and I saw bones and I was taking out my camera…

(he was arrested)

 

And so on…to be continued

7 july 2010

I will continue transcribing this interview with Rohde which I recorded from radio onto tape this morning from the BBC World Service.

There can be no going back on these lies about Srebrenica by the ruling class.

The Racak lie led on to the bombing of Serbia and Kosovo, and that bombing lies at the very heart of the whole of the NATO lie

This has got very big implications for everybody involved in politics today. We on 4international will never let this go, and we will measure everybody we meet by where they stand on these issues

It is that important to us!

HOLOCAUST DENIAL LIES AT THE CENTRE OF MUCH REACTION TODAY…ESPECIALLY ON THE “LEFT”

by Felix Quigley

April 23, 2009

Joshua Rosenburg has drawn attention to a recent article by Carl Savich which deals with the antics of a very notorious character (His name is Marko Attila Hoare) and associate of Oliver Kamm of the Times of London, also a close associate of the equally notorious Harry´s Place website. We deal once again with this man going under the very peculiar name, let me repeat it for effect, in case our readers are unfamiliar…Marko Attila Hoare !

This study is all the more important because it deals with aspects of Holocaust Denial.

[Begin study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

British Marxist, anti-Serbian nutjob & former Hague ICTY/NATO employee, Marko Attila Hoare and the Monty Python “Heinrich Himmler” sketch faux pas.

Hoare  is again proven an egregious liar about Alija Izetbegovic’s resurrected Bosnian Muslim Nazi “Handschar” [aka "Handzar"] division in this great article by Serbian-American historian, Carl Savich.

“Fact versus Delusional Fantasy: The Bosnian Muslim Government Reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar”
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/?p=518
April 19, 2009 – 12:58 pm
Marko Attila Hoare rejects and suppresses this factual image of Bosnian history in favor of a fantasy or delusional image from a television comedy. The real Heinrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) reviewing the real or “historical” Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar, 1943.

Did the Bosnian Muslim Army and Government reform or recreate the infamous Nazi SS Division Handzar or not? Based on Martko Attila Hoare’s response to my article, Hoare now concedes that, indeed, there was a formation in the Bosnian Muslim Army termed the “Handzar Division”.

Let me reiterate that. Hoare admitted that the Bosnian Muslim Government did indeed reform the Handzar Nazi SS Division of World War II. When you cut through and deconstruct all the indeologically-driven claptrap, innuendo, ad hominen, personal attacks, this is the conclusion that he reaches.

Hoare is so caught up in his own arrogance and conceit that he does not even notice that he admitted this fact.

The issue or question is and always was: Did the Bosnian Muslim Government have a unit in its ranks known as the Handzar Division? Hoare’s reply is: Yes.

 

Marko Attila Hoare used this fantasy image to illustrate his article on the reformed Bosnian Muslim Handzar Nazi SS Division. Michael Palin is shown as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler), John Cleese as Mr. Hilter (Adolf Hitler), and Graham Chapman as Ron Vibbentrop (Joachim von Ribbentrop), from a 1970 episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. Reality is rejected over delusional fantasy constructs.

Hoare, nevertheless, convinces himself that he was “vindicated” in denying the existence of the reformed Handzar Division. How does he do this? His rebuttal consists of challenging the strength of the reformed Handzar Division. Now that he admits that it existed, he now challenges the size of the formation. His argument is:  The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

monty_python_hitler_in_england

The Holocaust as joke? Michael Palin as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler) in a 1970 comedy sketch. Isn’t Hoare a Holocaust denier? Fact: Bosnian Muslims, Albanian Muslims, and Croats played a role in the real Holocaust.

But is this a valid argument? Is someone pregnant or not? Can you be pregnant by degree? Is someone dead or not? Can you be only dead to a small degree? Did the Bosnian Muslim Army recreate the Handzar Division or not? This requires a simple yes or no answer. What Hoare initially challenged and questioned was the existence of the division. To be sure, he hedged his bets and cheated by conceding that the division might exist “conceivably” but that its number was small in size.

Hoare hedged his bets this way: “[I]t is conceivable that there really was a handful of Muslim zealots who, during the recent war, fought on the Bosnian side and grandiloquently named themselves the ‘Handžar Division’ after this historic unit.”

Hoare, in essence, denied that the division existed at all. This was the gist of his article. Now he admits and concedes that it, in fact, existed. Now he argues that the unit or formation was a small one. It is hard to pinpoint exactly what he claimed because he constantly changes his arguments and contentions.

Fact versus delusional fantasy? This is a factual image of the real Henrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) with the real Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Hnadzar which Hoare has suppressed and repressed. Delusional fantasy is more reassuring than factual reality.

A fair characterization of his initial argument was that there was no evidence for the reformation of the Handzar Division. The eyewitness account of military analyst and journalist Robert Fox was deemed not credible. Hoare disingenuously hedged his argument by claiming that “conceivably” it could have existed. The way to translate this argument is:  No, the Handzar Division was not reformed. But, nevertheless, it is possible it may have been reformed. Of course, this is nonsensical and absurd.
 
Hoare then concluded: “Monty Python is a much better source for accurate historical information than Neil Clark and his comrades.”

So was the Handzar Division reformed or not? In his rebuttal to my article, Hoare now admits that the Handzar Division was reformed. He again hedges his bets by claiming this time that it was a small unit formed by “zealots”. But, again, the size of the unit or formation was never the question or issue. If there was a small unit or formation in the U.S. Army or British Army termed the “Adolf Hitler Regiment” or “Das Reich Division”, would it be relevant or material that the unit in question was only made up of “a handful” of “zealots”? Now that the existence of the unit is accepted and acknowledged, the issue shifts to the size of the unit, which is unknown.

Hoare concluded:  “It would seem that the ‘Handžar Division’,  confidently described as numbering ‘about 6,000 troops’ by our friend, does indeed turn out to be a bit smaller when the available evidence is examined closely.”

Hoare here mischaracterized Fox’s original statement by quoting my  estimate of the strength of the unit. Fox stated that UN peacekeeping “officers” had told him that the reformed “Handzar Division” was “up to 6,000-strong.” Fox emphazied that the strength of the unit was an approximation or estimate made by UN observers. Fox refers to the formation as a “unit” and as an element of the Bosnian army. Hoare ignores this explicit language and now argues that Fox claimed that the reformed unit consisted of “about 6,000 troops”.  But nowhere does Fox state that the unit was made up of 6,000 troops. The phrase “up to 6,000-strong” could encompass any number from one member to 6,000 members. Moreover, Hoare ignored that fact that Fox referred to the formation as a “unit” in his report leaving the actual size open to debate. Fox referred to the members of the unit as “Handzars” and as “[h]ardline elements of the Bosnian army, like Handzar.” Fox wrote that the formation was a “unit” of the Bosnian army similar to other units: “The Handzars are working closely with other units around Fojnica. ” But even at 6,000 men, it would only have ranked as a regiment or brigade, which usually consist of up to 5,000 men, not a division, which is generally accepted as a formation of 10,000 men or more.  In short, the focus or emphasis of the Fox report was the existence of the unit, not the size, on which issue Fox only proffered a potential maximum figure that was based on a UN estimate.

Finally, Hoare rejected Fox’s 1993 news report from the London Daily Telegraph out of hand, but this was not done by the Republican Policy Committee of the United States Senate, which cited Fox’s report as credible and accurate. In a January 16, 1997 report, the Committee, chaired at the time by U.S. Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican from Idaho, noted that  “there exists another group known as the Handzar (’dagger’ or ’scimitar’) Division” and quoted from Fox’s report. Thus, members of the U.S. Senate, tasked with safeguarding the lives of U.S. troops, found Fox’s report to be factual, credible, and accurate. Only Marko Attila Hoare questioned the veracity and accuracy of the Fox report. Absurdly, the Bosnian Muslim Government or Army never denied the existence of the reformed “Handzar Division”. Only Hoare has done this. At the war crimes trials of Bosnian Muslim military commanders at the ICTY, the existence of the “Handzar Division” as part of the Bosnian Muslim Army is openly acknowledged and detailed.

The translation is: The Bosnian Muslim Government of Alija Izetbegovic reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar during the 1992-1995 civil war. This is the only logical conclusion when one cuts through all of Hoare’s labels and propagandistic nomenclature.

Hoare uses a bevy of labels to do the thinking for him: “Serb-nationalists” (yes, with a hyphen!), “Milosevic supporters” (at least Hoare gets the correct pronunciation of his name with the correct Serbo-Croat form of his name), “Islamofascist” (no hyphen, a neologism popular after 9-11), “members of a US-based circle of Milosevic supporters and Srebrenica deniers” (an analogy with Holocaust deniers), “Great Serbia” (a propaganda term coined by Austria-Hungary before World War I), “ex-Maoist” (is that a good or a bad thing?), “Milosevic-supporting, Srebrenica-denying website” (hyphenated now, denoting an activity), “all good Chomskyites” (are there such people as “Chomskyites” out there?), “Serb nationalists and their supporters” (no hyphen;  do “Serb nationalists” have supporters?), “Serb nationalists and their fellow travellers”  (didn’t this term go out with the Joseph McCarthy Communist Witch Hunts during the 1950s Red Scare?), and “the Great Serbia supporters”.

How can one explain this plethora of labels? Why does Hoare use such preposterous and risible labels? We use labels to preclude thought or thinking. Labels are a shortcut to thinking and intellectual debate or discusiion. In fact, labels are meant to preclude or prevent any thought at all. This is why Hoare uses labels. They are mindless and senseless. Why use them then? In essence, Hoare does not want to debate or discuss these issues rationally or logically. He thus engages in the use of labels, what is termed “name calling” in propaganda analysis.  In propaganda, we use “pulpit words” or “glittering words” to describe ourselves and our own actions and the opposite words to describe our opponents. In short, Hoare wants to preclude any thought or debate. This is why he resorts to such propagandistic words. There is no thought or thinking going on, no discussion or debate or dialectic. There is only a stream of pre-selected labels or prejudiced or loaded words. It is like when Polonius asked Hamlet what he was reading:  “Polonius: What do you read, my lord? Hamlet: Words, words, words.”

The case is closed. As Detective Steve McGarrett would say to Detective Danny Williams, “Book ‘em, Danno!”

[end study of Marko Attila Hoare here]

The great strength of this study is that it shows that Marko Attila Hoare is responsible for a great revision of history, which is essentially what he does when he makes a joke about an aspect of the Holocaust in the Balkans.

Let us be very clear here. The Handzar division was a Nazi SS Division, and was created out of the forces of Islam in the Balkans.

To deny that is bad, but to deny as Hoare does that that was recreated by Izetbegovic is the most dangerous of all.

Because if you do that then you are saying that the study by Christopher Simpson in “Blowback” and in all the studies of the actions and words of Ahmadinejad in the present are of no relevance.

That another Holocaust is not possible!

That is the great fact that all on this British Imperialist Labourist wing surrounding Kamm, Harry´s Place, the British Media in total except for one noted journalist Eve Ann Prentice, worked might and main to keep hidden during the 90s and indeed since to this very day!

And that is where the Savich claim about Marko Attila Hoare Holocaust Denial is located. They are all guilty of this.

We on 4international have also met Jewish people who did not want to know about this aspect of history, or like Bill Narvey of Israpundit claimed that it had no relevance to today.

We also think that at the centre of all of the Fascist Leftist posturing of today on Israel lies a deep form of Holocaust Denial.

Behind the antics of people like Sinead Cusack now canvassing for her Israel hating son today in Ireland and wider is another form of truth denial, because what is denied is the situation of the Shoah which made it imperative to found Israel.

In fact all attacks that I see being made on Israel today, whether it is in Fatah and Abbas, in Hamas, in Hizbullah, or Iran…all are forms of Holocaust Denial.

There is another distortion which I would like our readers to understand acutely.

It was Leon Trotsky who emerged in the 1930s as the greatest advocate for Jewish nationalism, which he promoted because he had made a deep study of Fascism, and saw the great danger to the Jews from the Nazis.

For some reason the Lefts and “Trotskyists” have also hidden this aspect of history.

And in a strange way these things have come back together again in the grave danger to the Jews of Israel and all the Jews in the Diaspora from a combination of Fascist Islam and Fascist US Foreign policy (of Bush and Obama)

While we on 4international alone continue to fight to defend the Jews of Israel and insist that Israel has no choice but to wage war on the Iranian Nuclear agenda.

We do not wish this. But like Trotsky in the 1930s we are realistic and we try to emulate the realism of Trotsky re 1930s Fascism in the situation of today.

The essence of Hoare, and essentially also of Harry´s Place, Nick Cohen, Maggie O´Kane et al, in the following

The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!

In their analysis of Marko Attila Hoare, in their insisting on his attempts of making a joke out of the Holocaust in the Balkans showing him as a real danger to Jewish people, Joshua and Carl have brought us a great deal further forward.

THE THINGS THAT ALBANIANS DID TO SERBS BEFORE THEY KILLED THEM

by Felix Quigley

March 24, 2009

It is a decade since the US led NATO bombed Serbia.

 

Yugoslavia and Serbia was a small country which was doing no harm to America, but it stood int he way of the Empire in its drive to surround Russia with Nuclear Technology.

Although the Soviets had been overthrown Russia remained still an independent national country with very powerful Nuclear Weapons. It was that, the coming crisis in capitalism, the growing power of Chinese and Indian industry, which drove the US Empiricists forward.

Two days ago Richard Holbrook had this to say:

[Begin quote from Holbrooke here]

BRUSSELS (AFP) — US Ambassador Richard Holbrooke said Saturday that NATO’s air attack on former Yugoslavia a decade ago was “the right thing to do” and had improved the lives of Kosovo Albanians and Serbs.

Speaking at the Brussels Forum conference, Holbrooke — former envoy to the Balkans — recalled how 10 years ago this week he had given the final ultimatum to former strongman Slobodan Milosevic to comply or face air strikes.

“I look back on it and I think that sometimes it’s necessary to use force, and the result was good in the end,” the new US representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan told reporters.

http://www.serbianna.com/news/2009/1294.shtml

Easy for Holbrooke to say. He still carries on the lies against Slobodan Milosevic who was in fact in the end murdered in his cell (poisoned) by his NATO Hague jailers.

NATO murdered Milosevic first of all because they could not prove their case against Milosevic, and also because Milosevic was planning to insist that Clinton appear in the Hague to give evidence concerning a conversation he had with the Islamofascist Izetbegovic in which Clinton clearly insisted that there had to be a “massacre” in Srebrenica, in order to justify the bombing by the US forces in Bosnia.

Thanks to people like Times writer Oliver Kamm there has been a conspiracy of silence in the Media about the events in Yugoslavia.

The Media is so deeply implicated in that war, especially in the lies and black propaganda agains the Serbs as a people, that these Media journalists can never have it opened up for discussion.

Only a few journalists told the truth, one of whom is very dear to the heart of this website, that is the wonderful journalist Eve Ann Prentice.

The following report by Marina Dimova has never been published in the Western Media who were so demanding that the Serbs be bombed 10 years ago today.

[Begin report by Marina Dimova here]

Thousands in Serbia

 “still in danger from

NATO cluster bombs”

Civilians in Serbia are still in danger from thousands of unexploded cluster bombs almost a decade after NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, local media reported Saturday.

A study by Norwegian People’s Aid said that some 2,500 unexploded pieces of cluster ordnance were scattered across 15 municipalities, mainly in southern Serbia near the border with Kosovo, and the second largest city of Nis.

Around 160,000 civilians were at risk and it would take between 12 and 23 years to clear the areas if the current rate of clearance continued, the study said.

Serbia needs around 38 million dollars to dig out and defuse unexploded cluster bombs – canisters that open in flight and eject dozens of bomblets, some of which can lay unexploded for years.

NATO planes scattered some 37,000 cluster bombs over Yugoslavia, killing 31 people and injuring 160, during its 78 days of attacks to end Serbia’s crackdown of Albanian insurgents in Kosovo.

http://visitbulgaria.info/8765-thousands-serbia-still-danger-nato-cluster-bombs

But the scars which Holbrooke and his American Empiricists inflicted on the Balkans will not be forgotten in a hurry.

Nothing shows this more than the memory of the young Serb men who were abducted by those who Holbrooke and Clinton placed in power in Kosovo, abducted that is from the southern part of Kosovo and Metohija.

Not many Serbs now live in Kosovo today, certainly none in this area dealt with here.

On the 10th anniversary of the NATO bombing of Serbia it is this story which we will focus upon. It shows the nature of the new period of world capitalism, imperialism. It is a horror story of Holocaust proportions.

It is also a great lesson for the Jews of Israel in particular. The Jews know very well about Nazi brutality. Now there is a growing awareness that under the Obama Government a deal is being cooked up with the Holocaust Deniers of Fatah and Hamas, and indeed there is similarity between the hatred of Hamas for Jews, and the hatred shown in the following for Serbs.

The report is from Byzantine Blog, url at the end:

[Begin report from Byzantine Blog here]

 

 

Kosovo Province’s Macabre Rulers

 

Kidnapped Kosovo Serbs
Over the years, the families of the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs never stopped searching for their loved ones, trying to raise awareness about the abducted Serbs and knocking on doors of every official who could help them find their family members or their remains, so they could be properly buried.

Hashim Thaci’s Macabre Legacy:

 Throne on Mountain of Corpses

In its March 26 edition, Press Online published an excerpt from the testimony of one of Hague witnesses about Kosovo Serbs kidnapped by the KLA for organ harvesting. In her book “The Hunt”, to be published in Italy in April, ICTY’s former chief prosecutor Carla Del Ponte revealed that Hague prosecution learned about a group of more than 300 Serbs kidnapped from the southern Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija in the summer of 1999, who were taken to northern Albania in trucks, to have their vital organs extracted and sold in the West.

The Hague eyewitness, who personally took part in the harrowing ordeal, testified that trade with vital organs of the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs was conducted under a direct supervision of Hashim Thaci, the current ‘Premier’ of the fake mafia state in southern Serbia.

The witness, listed in the ICTY documentation under the protective code K-144, stated that kidnapping of the Serbs and harvesting their organs before they were killed was a “well organized and very profitable business”, conducted under the control of the KLA leaders and with the consent of the Albanian state officials.

“In the course of this action at least 300 kidneys and around 100 of other organs were extracted and sold through Italy. The prisoners had their livers extracted too, and in few cases also the hearts… I know that the price of a kidney was between 10,000 and 50,000 German Marks. They said that the total earnings was in excess of four million Deutsch Marks. There was a precise documentation, all of the extracted organs were listed, along with the amounts of money charged. The reports were submitted to the KLA commanders, who submitted them in person to Hashim Thaci. The KLA command was taking 80 percent of the earnings. The rest was divided among the men who organized the extraction and transport of the organs,” the Hague witness described the grisly operation in his statement.

Albania, Mass Grave for Serbs

According to him, there were several prison camps in central and northern Albania in 1999 where the Kosovo Serbs kidnapped for organ harvesting were held.

“It was a well organized system. Doctors would examine all the prisoners, they had files for each. When they would get the information from Italy which organ was needed, it would be decided who will go under a knife. The prisoners were anesthetized, their organs were extracted, and then they would most often be left to die by being taken off the life support… In several cases the younger prisoners, after having one kidney extracted, were sutured and returned with others, but that caused great panic and unrest among the others, so this practice was dropped”, the Hague witness said.

He stated that the killed Serbs were buried in mass graves which were moved several times in 2000.

“The biggest mass grave with some 100 Serbs was in the place Burel in central Albania. I have personally helped burying the Serbs there… When it was heard about the action and there was a danger of investigation being launched, this mass grave was opened, and the killed were moved to around dozen of other locations. Some remains were burned…”, ICTY protected witness stated.

“USED UP PROSTITUTES” ALSO MUTILATED

He also testified that there were few dozens of “used-up prostitutes” in the prison camps in northern Albania, who, after the medical examinations, were also mutilated and had their vital organs extracted before being killed.

“There were also some Russian women, Romanians and Moldavians. I once asked about them. They told me that those are the whores who have done their jobs,” the ICTY witness said.

Del Ponte Received All the Evidence by 2004

President of the Association of Kidnapped and Missing Kosovo Serbs Simo Spasic announced the lawsuit against the former ICTY chief prosecutor Carla Del Ponte for covering up these monstrous crimes, by failing to bring charges against the KLA leaders in the case of Serbs whose vital organs were harvested in Albanian prison camps.

Speaking for Tanjug news agency, Spasic said his Association is waiting to receive Del Ponte’s book “The Hunt, Me and War Criminals“, based on which the Association representative, Belgrade lawyer, will submit a lawsuit against Del Ponte.

Spasic said that this is an issue of a criminal act Del Ponte, as a chief prosecutor, was duty-bound to sanction.

THE FAMILIES HAD INFORMED DEL PONTE AS FAR BACK AS 2001

According to Spasic, the families of the missing Kosovo Serbs have been warning about the KLA atrocities over the non-Albanians in the Kosovo-Metohija province since 1999. The Association of the Families had informed Del Ponte about their findings twice, in 2001, during Del Ponte’s trip to Belgrade and in 2004, when the Association representatives went to the ICTY in Hague.

Kidnapped Kosovo Serbs

 

Recalling those meetings, Spasic said that the first was held in the cabinet of then-Foreign Affairs Minister Goran Svilanovic, in the presence of Florence Hartmann, Anton Nikiforov and the ICTY chief investigator, Finn Matti Ratkinnen who carefully wrote down and taped the entire conversation.

“We gave them all the evidence about the Kosovo Serbs who, under the armed guard and in columns, were transfered through Montenegro to Albania. One of my missing brothers was among them, Zarko, with whom I later talked over the phone, on May 19, 1998, thanks to one connection,” Spasic said.

He added that the war crimes prosecutor Vladimir Vukcevic now has a video tape which Spasic received from the Serbian Interior Police Minister Dragan Jocic, and which contains the video recording of his brother alongside one uniformed man and two civilians.

EVEN THE SPERM WAS FOR SALE

Spasic said that Del Ponte was also informed about the telephone call he received in 2003, when a male who did not want to reveal his identity, told him about the things Albanians are doing to Serbs before they kill them.

“He told me their vital organs are being extracted, heart and kidneys, and even the sperm, for sale in Western Europe and USA”, said Spasic.

“THEIR TURN WILL COME TOO” SAID DEL PONTE

“During our Hague meeting in 2004, the chief prosecutor greeted us with the information that all of our loved ones were killed, some in northern Albania, some in the concentration camps Likovac and Lapusnik”, Spasic said, adding that when they asked why are the KLA leaders, who are hiding the remains of our family members, being protected, Del Ponte replied that “their turn will come too”.

Muslim Representative of Helsinki

Committee Confirmed KFOR

and UNMIK Knew About KLA

Concentration Camps

The late President of the Raska region Helsinki Committee, Muslim Shefko Alomerovic was also pointing to the fact that Albanians held Kosovo-Metohija Serbs in concentration camps. His testimony was especially shocking for the foreigners, because it was coming from someone who could not be labeled a “pro-Serbian” source.

Alomerovic testified that Aljos Malja, the chief of the KLA secret police, runs all the concentration camps for Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija province, which existed in six locations, most often in boiler rooms, garages and cellars of the public buildings and private homes.

In the interview to the magazine “Reporter” given in April 2000, Alomerovic said: “KFOR and UNMIK are aware of the charges by the Sandzak Helsinki Committee. Committee has people who are employed with both KFOR and UNMIK, and these men confirmed that KFOR offices in Pristina, Pec and Kosovska Mitrovica have received the relevant documentation from the Committee. These are our men whom we trust and their testimony is a sufficient evidence that KFOR is aware of the concentration camps.”

Scott Taylor: Western Leaders

and Media Know About Atrocities

Serbs, but Prefer to Ignore Them

“In 1999 there were rumors in Kosovo that the vital organs of the kidnapped and missing Serbs are being sold, but they were discarded as a ‘Serb propaganda’,” said Scott Taylor, Canada’s military analyst and former member of the peacekeeping forces in Kosovo province in 1999.

Taylor, who has worked as a war correspondent and is the current editor of the military magazine Esprit de Corps, commenting the claims in Del Ponte’s book for Saturday edition of the Belgrade daily Vecernje novosti, said it was simply not possible that NATO and UNMIK did not know about the trade in human organs extracted from kidnapped Kosovo Serbs, while the ICTY’s chief prosecutor knew about these atrocious crimes.

THE FOREIGN REPORTERS SAW NOTHING KNEW NOTHING!

Nothing was published about the crimes against the Serbs that Albanians in some cases committed even in the plain view of foreign reporters and NATO troops,” said Taylor.

Families of the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs

Taylor reminded that a series of those crimes committed under the command of KLA leader Agim Ceku, were witnessed by the Canadian troops which recorded them, especially the war crimes in Croatia (Medak Pocket massacre and the ethnic cleansing of over 300,000 Serbs from Srpska Krajina in Croatia, code named Operation Storm).

THE CRIMES OF CEKU BUT CEKU REWARDED BY HOLBROOKE AND NATO

Taylor said that he continued to write about Ceku’s crimes and included in his memoirs the Canadian double standards, exemplified in the charges Canada’s judge Louis Arbour at the post of ICTY chief prosecutor brought against the late Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic in 1999, for the alleged Racak massacre, which the forensic experts rejected as a fraud.

“One has to wonder why she, at the same time, failed to raise charges against the KLA leaders for trafficking the organs extracted from the kidnapped Serbs”.

Taylor said he does not represent the Serbian position, but simply demands that the full truth should be revealed before any decisions are made. “Throughout the entire conflict in the Balkans, everyone overlooked the number of crimes committed against Serbs,” he said.

Serbian Medical Society:

The Most Heinous Crimes Since

 Nazi Germany

The Serbian Medical Society of Kosovo and Metohija requested that Serbia’s Ministries of Health, Justice and Foreign Affairs urgently initiate the international investigation regarding the claims that Kosovo Serbs had their organs extracted for sale.

Addressing the press conference in Kosovska Mitrovica on Saturday, Dr. Milan Jakovljevic, President of the Serbian Medical Society, along with Society members Dr. Miladinka Barac and Dr. Dragan Stefanovic, said that Serbia has to immediately cut all diplomatic ties with Albania, the country where the kidnapped Kosovo Serbs were taken to have their organs extracted.

Dr. Jakovljevic explained that “human organs can be taken only by the skilled medical staff, which means that medical workers took part in these heinous crimes”. He stressed that the greatest responsibility for the entire “massacre the international community is ignoring for eight years, avoiding to face responsibility for this even today”, rests on the medical workers who took part in the monstrosity.

AND WHERE ARE THE MEDICAL WORKERS NOW?

“We demand that the identity of the medical workers who took part in this operation is revealed, that they are prohibited from practicing medicine and held criminally responsible. We shall work till the very end to make sure the whole truth comes to light, if for no other reason, then so that the families of those tormented Serbs who were kidnapped at least receive a moral satisfaction,” said Dr. Jakovljevic, calling on the World Health Organization to launch investigation into this “most inhumane act, before seen only in the Second World War, during the reign of Nazi Germany.”

UNMIK Policemen Lied About

Kidnapped Serbs in Albania

Milorad Avramovic (38), father of three children, who worked in Trepca mine, was kidnapped in June 1999, in the southern part of Kosovska Mitrovica. His wife Maya Avramovic said that she received the confirmation from certain UNMIK police officers in the same year that her husband is alive and imprisoned in northern Albania.

“At the time, one Argentinian whose name was Ramon Armacado and one Bulgarian whose name I can’t remember, said that in the summer of 1999 Kosovo Albanians took some 300 kidnapped Serbs in trucks to Albanian camps, in the places Tropoja and Kukes,” she said, adding that her husband was among them.

She said they told her that “everyone works there, they are unloading the construction material, building roads for Haradinaj, that the trucks are bringing food to them and that they are even wearing some kind of the workers’ jumpsuits.”

THE FEARS WERE RATIONAL, BUT IGNORED

“Unfortunately, nobody took seriously our fears in all these years, even though they were entirely rational, after it was confirmed that the kidnapped Serbs were being taken to Albania”, Avramovic said.

EFFECT ON CHILDREN

She said that her children were deeply distressed with the latest information about the kidnapped Serbs who were used for organ harvesting and that KFOR and UNMIK heads should also be brought to justice, since they were clearly informed about everything that went on, and did nothing to put an end to this, or to bring charges against the criminals.

Recommended: Need a Liver? Kill a Serb., by Julia Gorin (Republican Riot); Is Kosovo the End of Europe?, by Ash Narain Roy (Mainstream Weekly); U.S. acceptance of Kosovo poses problem, by John Meinhold (SCTimes.com); U.S. blunders by recognizing Kosovo independence, by James A. Palmer (Detroit Free Press); Pentagon aims to take Kosovo under its wing, by Tamara Zamyatina (Canada, Edmonton Journal)

 

THE PROOF THAT IZETBEGOVIC WAS IN 1940 A MEMBER OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

by Felix Quigley

July 24, 2008

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“Our goal: the Islamization of Muslims. Our methods: to believe and to struggle.”—Alija Izetbegovic, “Islamic Declaration,” 1970

“O’ Alija, O’ honored! You drive America crazy!” –Line from Arabic poetry sung by foreign mujahideen during Bosnian war “

http://www.youngmuslims.ca/biographies/display.asp?ID=2

As seen in the url this is from the Young Muslims in Canada.  The Young Muslims of Canada are motivated by the ideas of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why then should the above lines praising Izetbegovic be appearing on the website of the Muslim Brothers in Canada? Was Elija Izetbegovic not an apostle of democracy, American and Western type democracy to be precise? He was certainly sold like this in every newspaper in Europe and in America. Izetbegovic was a particular favourite of a certain Mr Oliver Kamm, just promoted to being a Lead Writer for the venerable Times of London!

Let us continue with the musings of the Muslim Brothers aka Young Muslims of Canada a little further, the writer a certain member of the Muslim Brotherhood called Ismail Royer.

[begin quote here]

“Do we want the Muslim people to leave their going-around-in-circles, their dependence, backwardness, and poverty?” Izetbegovic once wrote, “Then we show clearly which path will take us to that goal: establishing Islam in every field in the personal life of the individual, in family and society…and the establishment of a unique Islamic community from Morocco to Indonesia.” Continue reading

YAMIT82…NOBODY IS LAUGHING OUT LOUD

by Felix Quigley

Israpundit is a very important site for the Jewish people especially now that there has to be organized a great discussion on just how Israel can face up to its enemies.

The news which has emerged from a source within the talks going on between the Israeli ruling class of Livni and Olmert, with the Palestinian Arab fascists presided over by the US Imperialists of Bush, led in the talks by Rice, shows the enormous dangers which Israel and the lives of all Jews are in. This is why we on 4international are very critical of some of the discussions that are taking place there. The most recent issue is over the issue of apostasy and the general position of religion in the Jewish strugggle. Nobody really likes tackling this but it has to be tackled head on if we are to have the discussion necessary for the saving of Israel from its enemies. Continue reading