PAMELA GELLER DISGUSTS ME REALLY DOES DISGUST ME

HER REMARKS ON THIS HANGING DISGUST ME

Pamela Geller on her website Atlas Shrugs has shown the hanging of a Young man in Teheran iran and fair play to Geller she has done this in order to show what a bloody brutal regime there is in Iran and to show the brutality of Islam as an ideology and practice

BUT big problem here with Geller and I really hate and detest her for it

Geller prefaces her article with this:

The horror. As a woman, I sympathize with anyone who would want this man to get the harshest possible penalty. At the same time, this video demonstrates the savagery of the Iranian government: they’re piling their own Sharia-derived barbarity on top of his. – See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/03/warning-disturbing-video-public-execution-iran-man-cries-begs-see-mother-last-ime-tries-escape-hung.html/#sthash.cMk3QUgw.dpuf

It is the first sentence in the above that I really detest Geller for

Well Geller he did get “the harshest possible penalty.”

Damm you Geller!

WHAT IS THE ANSWER

The answer is to reject what Geller said in the introduction. This brutal hanging of this Young man whatever crime he committed, and we take nothing as true from this bloodthirsty Jihad lot, is to be totally condemmed without ANY conditions laid

TRY NOT TO WATCH IT
JUST REDOUBLE YOUR FIGHT AGAINST ISLAM AND JIHAD

Truly a dangerous individual is this “Joe McCarthy in a skirt” Pamela Geller

Pamela Geller is a servant of US Imperialism and so she is at present totally silent on the Ukrainian issue. This means she supports Fascists. Silence here equals support. She also projects herself as an opponent of Islamic Jihad and in certain ways she is. But how can those two things go together, that is a servant of US Imperialism, and also against Islamic Jihad, remembering that Islamic Jihad is promoted by all branches of US and EU Imperialism? This is a big question for Jews who also face the Jihad of the “Palestinians”. This needs to be discussed.

The following will help us to see through this “conundrum:

Pamela Geller has opened up a big campaign against the NY Mayor Bill de Blasio. Geller calls him a “Communist”. Is that true or false? Can Geller be serious here?

Bill de Blasio from what I can learn is part of that Stalinist cum pro Islam and Antisemitic “Left”, by this I mean what is called the “Left”

The question that Geller must be forced to address is if de Blasio is Stalinist how is he Communist.

In other words is Stalinism the same as Communism?

Or is Trotskyism the same as Stalinism?

Or is what Lenin fought for the same as what Lenin and the Bolsheviks fought for.

Those are actually very basic questions and they are also questions which ARE answerable. It involves a Project in political life which is doable.

Geller and Spencer are “tricky” and an example of this is the way they use the “Sandanistas” to attack de Blasio, but there are a couple of issues here which they do not raise never mind answer. The first issue was the role of Reagan and of US Imperialism in Central America against the South American people. It is very telling that Geller and Spencer are hiding this. The second issue that these “tricky duo” do not raise is were the Sandanistas Communists or Stalinists, and if the Sandanistas were allied with the East German Stalinists does that not mean that the Sandanista Leadership was in essence a Stalinist leadership? Whatever the answer it is very clear that in Spencer and in Geller we are dealing with subterfuge which is indeed dangerous for us all, and also for Jews. As I said, “tricky”!

There are two main problems, Geller and 4international

1. Problem of Geller is that she labels people like Bill de Blasio as being a Communist. Geller thus is a big confuser of issues. She may sound good to some people but that is based on ignorance and offers no education. Geller and Spencer confuse, do not enlighten!

2. Problem of Geller for 4international is that she confuses and muddies, but in order to tackle this the 4international needs to engage in a “Project”. By this I mean that this understanding of what Geller is at, which is deliberately confusing Stalinism with Trotskyism, has to be struggled for. I am very sad to say thaat this kind of knowledge does not grow on tres and all that a Young person today has to do is reach up and grab a fruit (of knowledge). No sadly no!

Geller engages in anti-Jihad activity. But so do we on 4international. Islam is a Nazi ideology as expressed in the Muftí and Hitler coming together in the Holocaust against the Jews.

But Geller is also in that Hitler camp, because she is an anti-communist, like Diana West, another “Joe McCarthy in skirts”.

Her McCarthyism is leading her to support Fascists against Russia in a new World War.

Truly a dangerous individual is this “Joe McCarthy in a skirt” Pamela Geller

Dangerous especially to the Jews

UKRAINE SHOWS UP THESE FALSE ZIONIST LEADERS LIKE BELMAN, GELLER AND SPENCER

Jews must break decisively from the Bourgeois and Imperialist Jewish leaders on the issue of Ukraine.
The now notorious Ted Belman who heads Israpundit carried articles from the total US Imperialist Palin on Ukraine.
Then it must be remembered that Belman carries the work on his site of Fascists who call for the murder of communists and especially Trotskyists.
Jews must break decisively from this.

The position of Jews on Ukraine must be the same as the Irish or any other free nation.
1. The coup was organised against the truly elected Government
2. This coup was directed and planned by Washington and the EU with NATO waiting in the wings
3. The first step therefore that Belman does not do is to defend the integrity of Ukraine from this coup
4. The next step to take is to defend the right of Russia to defend itself from this coup in Ukraine because a NATO controlled Ukraine is a direct threat to Russia
5. No more than the Jews facing genocide in 1967 the Russian Government cannot wait, sit back and do nothing.
6. The Russian Government really has no alternative but to go in with its Red Army and take control of the whole of Ukraine, depose the Fascists and return the true and former government to power. Otherwise the world is the “Wild West” where anything goes.
7. The EU cannot solve a single one of the needs of ordinary people today. Mass poverty and unemployment in Portugal, Greece, Spain, Ireland. As Bat Yeor points out growing Islamisation of Europe. Border defences as in Melilla Spain broken down totally. Youth unemployment up to 80 per cent.
8. While we defend Putin he has no answers to this crisis. It is necessary to go back to the socialist revolution of Lenin and Trotsky. The workers, youth and students must take the power from the capitalists, and use science and wealth to create an answer. This means going back to the traditions of Leon Trotsky and affirm that Trotskyism is the answer. Join us. Do not hold back.
9. The defence of Israel becomes very important. Jews who feel under any threat in Ukraine must be enabled by the workers and youth of Ukraine to get to Israel immediately. The defence of Israel against “Palestinian” Fascism thus has to be part of their struggle too.

CAN JEWS BE LED BY SUCH SCOUNDRELS AS GELLER, SPENCER AND BELMAN?

Why is Ted Belman of Israpundit not totally in support of all of those who are opposed to the Fascist, Obama directed, coup in Ukraine?

Still not a cheep out of Pamela Geller. Brave Pamela Geller NOT!

No cheep either out of Robert Spencer!

THIS IS TOTAL INSANITY ON THE PRT OF GELLER AND SPENCER.

These types above are ANTI COMMUNIST AND PRO iMPERIALIST TO THE VERY CORE. True they oppose Islam and oppose the Jihad. So do we on 4international without compromise and our considered view is Islam is pure evil.

Belman has crawled out of the undergrowth and at last said something on Ukraine, but part of what he says is to line up behind the worst sections of US Imperialism in war against the oppressed people of Ukraine and IN FAVOUR of the Fascist Coup engineered by Obama.

The world advances rapidly towards world war, and nuclear war.

It must be shouted out from every peak in every mountain range of the world that this was a Fascist coup AGAINST AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT. Everything follows from that.
The scoundrel Belman, and the scoundrels Geller and Spencer, have not addressed that, as if some day we would wake up and overlook that.

I ask most sincerely of all Jews..Can Jews be led by these kinds of scoundrels as are Belman, Geller and Spencer.

GELLER AND SPENCER NEED TO BREAK FROM US OBAMA AND DEFEND ASSAD

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Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch are running pieces that show John McCain in support of Al Qaida against the Assad Government

Their material always contain valuable information of how close that the American State Department is to Al Qaida.

You have to add to this the Cameron Government and the Labour Party Opposition as well.

 

But this is what I cannot understand about the position of Spencer and Geller. I do not see them supporting Assad. If there is a war by Al Qaida and US Intelligence to defeat Assad and replace Assad with a Fascist Sharia Theocracy then why are these bloggers Geller and Spencer not coming out boldly to defend Assad? That baffles me.

 

John McCain is featured as attacking Christians in Syria. He stormed into a meeting, jeered and roared at them, left the meeting, came back again and stood there not looking at them in the face. This man is mad but this madness extends to US President and also in a certain way to Geller and Spencer for sitting on the fence. Got it! You see sitting on the fence is actively helping US Intelligence.

I think I have called Spencer and Geller correctly on this. YOU CANNOT EVER SIT ON THE FENCE.

McCain is right there, at the top of the very US State apparatus. There is this info from Geller about his advisor.

“The veteran lawmaker is enamored with a controversial young “Syria
expert,” Elizabeth O’Bagy,

…who has managed to convince him as well as the
president and secretary of state that Syrian rebels are mostly moderate and not
terrorists.

…While persuading the U.S. of this, O’Bagy concealed that she was a
political director for the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF), a group that
advocates for Syria’s rebels from Washington D.C. Before getting exposed by
conservative media outlets, O’Bagy claimed to be an objective analyst at a
Washington D.C. think-tank that studies military affairs when in fact she had a
“reputation as the leading expert on the armed opposition in the Syrian
revolution,” according to SETF. 

…“Elizabeth
is a talented researcher, and I have been very impressed by her knowledge and
analysis in multiple briefings over the last year,” McCain said in a statement
to the political news publication that broke the story in late September.

…Besides the fact that a Syrian Islamist group is essentially steering U.S.
policy, a number of domestic and international media outlets have confirmed
that terrorists—mainly Al Qaeda—are running opposition forces in Syria. For
instance the New York Times published a piece that reveals Islamist
rebels—including the most extreme groups in the notorious Al Nusra Front, an Al
Qaeda-aligned force—are running the show in Syria. “The Islamist character of
the opposition reflects the main constituency of the rebellion,” the story
says. “Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to
speak of.”

 

FINAL WORD BY 4INTERNATIONAL

We are living ina  world awash with lies. The question is for us how to see the truth. How can ordinary people see the truth of what is happening. The first step is to be independent  and in order to be independent you have to have an organization, that is to fight socially, not fight as an individual. this article will also feature on http://www.facebook.com/felix.quigley

 

WE ON 4INTERNATIONAL DEFEND RUSSIA AND PUTIN AGAINST THE JIHAD

www.4international.me stands in defence of the Russian people as it faces the Jihad, that is the same Jihad which hit New York, London, Madrid, Nigeria and so many other places.

 

But it’s islamophobia — that’s the real problem.

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2nd deadly blast hits Russian city of Volgograd ahead of 2014 Sochi Olympics,” By CNN, December 30, 2013

These Muslims are cowards and it takes no courage at all to murder innocent people as the are doing.

The Jihad is raging and it is also raging against Jews in Israel.

What a shameful thing it was then for Caroline Glick in Israel to write just days ago a spiteful article against Putin. Glick has shown herself up most seriously.

On the other hand Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer show themselves to be the most principled.

 

Defend Putin against these attacks! defend Russia against the Jihad!

 

 

Video footage from the scene Monday showed the twisted shell of the blue trolleybus, with debris spread around it. The impact of the blast blew out the roof of the bus, as well as windows of several nearby houses. At least 15 people were reported to be wounded.

Based on the footage, the blast appeared to have occurred in the back half of the bus. It was most likely caused by an explosive left inside the vehicle, Russia’s National Anti-Terrorism Committee told RIA Novosti.

Investigators said the train station blast Sunday appeared to have been caused by a suicide bomber, who may have been female.

Markin told Ria Novosti that DNA testing will be carried out on the remains of the bomber, who used the equivalent of 10 kilograms of TNT in a device containing shrapnel. Investigators say they also found an unexploded grenade at the scene.

Video taken from an outside security camera shows a huge fireball inside what appears to be the main entrance of the three-story stone building followed by a steady trail of smoke coming out shattered windows.

The approaching Olympics

The deadly explosions come ahead of the Winter Olympics in Sochi, which is situated less than 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) southwest of Volgograd. The Games will take place between February 7 and 24.

Once called Stalingrad, Volgograd is a major rail hub in the region, and each day thousands of passengers pass through the station, many on their way to Moscow.

 

 

 

THE BUS CAMPAIGN…GREAT NEWS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LEARN ABOUT ISLAM

Friday, February 22, 2013

AFDI #Myjihad Ads go up on Chicago Buses!

Finally, after months of wrangling and First Amendment violations, our AFDI jihad campaign hits the streets of Chicago to counter the deceptive and misleading Hamas-CAIR #myjihad propaganda

THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF PAMELA GELLER. THE ESSENCE OF GELLER’S CAMPAIGN IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM. WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME SUPPORTS HER CAMPAIGN UNCONDITIONALLY.

Marx was clear as to the potential Fascist nature of Islam even in his day. We Marxists recognise Fascism as a modern phenomenon, tied in with the capitalist system in severe crisis, antisemitism may be present but present always is to atomise the workers and to block all opposition.

What Geller is doing is fighting for free speech. She is NOT against Muslims and not against Muslims simply worshipping. But she is explaining the nature of Islam.

What could be wrong with that!

We as revolutionary socialists defend Pamela Geller unconditionally in this campaign to open up the dusty and very bloody pages of Islam for us to peruse.

THE “lEFT” IN BED WITH ISLAM ARE NOT REALLY IN THE TRADITIONS OF REVOLUTIONARY SOCIALISM. ONLY WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME FROM YUGOSLAVIA TO LIBYA SEE ISLAM AS A THREAT TO HUMANITY

SUBWAY ADS IN NEW YORK…DEFEND FREE SPEECH UNCONDIONALLY

4INTERNATIONAL SALUTES PAMELA GELLER

FIGHT TO DEFEND FIRST AMENDMEND

 

Pamela Geller has the blockbuster story:

Islamic supremacist journalist Mona Eltahawy was arrested today after assaulting a defender of freedom who caught her in the act of vandalizing one of AFDI’s pro-Israel ads in the New York Subway Stations.This again proves the Islamic supremacists and the Leftist thugs are dedicated to shutting down free speech. Anti-Israel ads ran all over the country without a murmur of protest; but this pro-Israel ad was hardly up an hour before fascist thugs like Eltahawy went to work to deface it.

At 12:42PM on Tuesday, September 25, Eltahawy tweeted: “Meetings done; pink spray paint time. #ProudSavage#FuckHate.”

Shortly thereafter, she was about to spray paint over AFDI’s pro-Israel ad in a subway station when freelance journalist and pro-freedom blogger Pamela Hall stood between her and the ad. Eltahawy thereupon sprayed Hall with paint; Eltahawy was arrested and Hall is pressing charges.

The attack was witnessed by Georgette Roberts of the New York Post. We look forward to the Post’s full report, since Roberts witnessed this entire incident.

This criminal behavior and fascism will be lauded in Leftist circles.

Eltahawy’s thuggish behavior is a telling indication of how relentlessly opposed the left and Islamic supremacists are to the freedom of speech, and how desperate they are to keep any pro-freedom, anti-jihad message from getting out.

AFDI’s ad reads: “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad.”

Eltahawy’s behavior is all the more ironic in light of the fact that she was viciously sexually assaulted by “protesters” in Cairo’s Tahrir Square last year, and subsequently wrote a searching piece about the misogyny that is inherent in Islamic law. But she was roundly attacked by her fellow Islamic supremacist writers for that article, and made a full retreat. Now, in a classic case of Stockholm Syndrome, she is defending the same savages who brutally attacked her in Tahrir Square.

AFDI calls upon the NYPD to prosecute Eltahawy for her assault on Pamela Hall to the fullest extent of the law, and to guard the pro-Israel ads from further Leftist/Islamic supremacist vandalism.

Related: Left rejoices at vandalism of pro-freedom, pro-Israel ads

 

A brief update on the big story from yesterday: the arrest of Islamic supremacist journalist Mona Eltahawy after she spray painted our AFDI pro-freedom ad and assaulted blogger Pamela Hall in a New York subway station.

Why would a renowned and respected journalist resort to a juvenile act of vandalism and persist even when confronted? Here’s a clue: reading this ABC News report on the arrest, these lines leapt out at me:

“This is non-violent protest, see this America” Eltahawy said in the video as police officers were arresting her. “I’m an Egyptian-American and I refuse hate.”

You can see Eltahawy saying that in Pamela Hall’s video, above.

Now, in my May 31 piece for PJ Media, I wrote this:

Mona Eltahawy’s piece in the May/June issue of Foreign Policy criticized a series of practices that are justified in Islamic law, including child marriage, wife-beating, and female genital mutilation. Counter-jihadist activists and writers have been calling attention to these human rights abuses for years, but Eltahawy’s piece was singular in that she is a Muslim journalist….Harvard professor Leila Ahmed confronted Eltahawy on MSNBC:

Mona, I appreciate what you do. I would love it if — I understand if you want to get your message across. It’s an important message. But if possible [you should not] give fuel, fodder to people who simply hate Arabs and Muslims in this climate of our day.

Eltahawy, you see, told unwelcome truths about Islam and was accused of spreading “hate” — which is exactly what the Left and the Islamic supremacists do to those of us who have been telling those truths for years. But this was something new for Eltahaway, who had reliably been on the Left’s media reservation throughout her career. Now she was suddenly being criticized by her old friends, probably not invited to the best parties, etc.

So instead of having the courage of her convictions, Eltahawy folded, and cast about for a way to distance herself from counter-jihad freedom activists and prove that she was on the right (Left) side and would not make waves again. What better way than to vandalize our pro-freedom message, all the while accusing us of the “hate” she was accused of when she told the truth about Islam?

The arrest, even if she didn’t expect it or plan it, was icing on the cake: because of it, now she will be lionized as a hero and martyr by the very people who were shunning her for her Foreign Policy piece: the hate-filled Leftist totalitarians who despise free speech anyway.

Mona Eltahawy could have been a journalist of integrity, and almost was, for a brief moment. Instead, she is a fascist brownshirt.

 

RAYMOND IBRAHIM WRITES

 

As the Islamic world, in the guise of the 57-member state Organization of Islamic Cooperation, continues to push for the enforcement of “religious defamation” laws in the international arena—theoretically developed to protect all religions from insult, but in reality made for Islam—one great irony is lost, especially on Muslims: if such laws would ban movies and cartoons that defame Islam, they would also, by logical extension, have to ban the religion of Islam itself—the only religion whose core texts actively defame other religions.

 

  If films and cartoons defame Islam, the Quran itself defames other religions. 

 

To understand this, consider what “defamation” means. Typical dictionary-definitions include “to blacken another’s reputation” and “false or unjustified injury of the good reputation of another, as by slander or libel.” In Muslim usage, defamation simply means anything that insults or offends Islamic sensibilities.

However, to gain traction among the international community, the OIC maintains that such laws should protect all religions from defamation, not just Islam. Accordingly, the OIC is agreeing that any expression that “slanders” the religious sentiments of others should be banned.

What, then, do we do with Islam’s core religious texts—beginning with the Quran itself, which slanders, denigrates and blackens the reputation of other religions? Consider Christianity alone: Quran 5:73 declares that “Infidels are they who say Allah is one of three,” a reference to the Christian Trinity; Quran 5:73 says “Infidels are they who say Allah is the Christ, [Jesus] son of Mary”; and Quran 9:30 complains that “the Christians say the Christ is the son of Allah … may Allah’s curse be upon them!”

Considering that the word “infidel” (or kafir) is one of Islam’s most derogatory terms, what if a Christian book or Western movie appeared declaring that “Infidels are they who say Muhammad is the prophet of God—may God’s curse be upon them“? If Muslims would consider that a great defamation against Islam—and they would, with the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that the Quran defames Christians and Christianity.

Similarly, consider how the Christian Cross, venerated among millions, is depicted—is defamed—in Islam: according to canonical hadiths, when he returns, Jesus supposedly will destroy all crosses; and Muhammad, who never allowed the cross in his presence, ordered someone wearing a cross to “take off that piece of idolatry.”

What if Christian books or Western movies declared that the sacred things of Islam—say the Black Stone in the Ka’ba of Mecca—are “idolatry” and that Muhammad himself will return and destroy them? If Muslims would consider that defamation against Islam—and they would, with all the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that the hadith defames the Christian Cross.

Here is a particularly odious form of defamation against Christian sentiment, especially to the millions of Catholic and Orthodox Christians. According to Islam’s most authoritative Quranic exegetes, including the revered Ibn Kathir, Muhammad is in paradise married to and having sex with the Virgin Mary.

What if a Christian book or Western movie portrayed, say, Muhammad’s wife, Aisha the “Mother of Believers,” as being married to and having sex with a false prophet in heaven? If Muslims would consider that a great defamation against Islam—and they would, with all the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that Islam’s most authoritative Quranic exegetes defame the Virgin Mary.

Nor does such defamation of Christianity occur in Islam’s ancient texts only; modern day Muslim scholars and sheikhs agree that it is permissible to defame Christianity. Qatar-based “Islam Web” even issued a fatwa that legitimizes insulting Christianity.

Now consider the wording used by Muslim leaders calling on the U.N. to enforce religious defamation laws in response to the Muhammad film on YouTube, and how these expressions can easily be used against Islam:

The OIC “deplored… an offensive and derogatory film on the life of Prophet Muhammad” and “called on the producers to show respect to the religious sentiments held sacred by Muslims and those of other faiths.”

But what about the “offensive and derogatory” depictions of Christianity in Islam’s core texts? Are Muslims willing to expunge these from the Quran and hadith, “to show respect to the religious sentiments held sacred … by those of other faiths,” in this case, Christians?

Turkish Prime Minister Erodgan said the film “insults religions” (note the inclusive plural) and called for “international legal regulations against attacks on what people [not just Muslims] deem sacred.”

Well, what about the fact that Islam “insults religions”—including Judaism and all polytheistic faiths? Should the West call for “international legal regulations against attacks on what people deem sacred,” in the case of Christianity, regulations against Islam’s teachings which attack the sanctity of Christ’s divinity, the Cross, and Virgin Mary?

Even Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti—who a few months ago called for the destruction of all Christian churches in the Arabian Peninsula (first reported here)—is calling for a “global ban on insults targeting all” religious figures, while the Grand Imam of Egypt’s Al Azhar is calling for “a U.N. resolution outlawing ‘insulting symbols and sanctities of Islam’ and other religions.” Again, they, too, claim to be interested in banning insults to all religions, while ignoring the fact that their own religion is built atop insulting all other religions.

And surely this is the grandest irony of all: the “defamation” that Muslims complain about—and that prompts great violence and bloodshed around the world—revolves around things like movies and cartoons, which are made by individuals who represent only themselves; on the other hand, Islam itself, through its holiest and most authoritative texts, denigrates and condemns—in a word, defames—all other religions, not to mention calls for violence against them (e.g., Quran 9:29).

It is this issue, Islam’s perceived “divine” right to defame and destroy, that the international community should be addressing—not silly cartoons and films

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/12330/how-religious-defamation-laws-would-ban-islam

DEFEND PAMELA GELLER FROM BBC PRO-MUSLIM AND PRO-JIHAD SLURS

THIS IS THE RESULT OF YEARS OF BBC LYING ABOUT ISLAM AS A”RELIGION OF PEACE”

 

The great New York freedom fighter Pamela Geller who publishes a principled American blog called Atlas Shrugs was attacked viciously this very morning by the BBC World Service.

 

This lying filth of the BBC goes out all over the world, they transmit everywhere, and especially to Arab and African countries.

 

The British Establishment are the biggest liars in the world. Thus the mouthpiece of the British Establishment, which is undoubtedly the BBC, IS the biggest liar bar none in the world.

 

The BBC this morning hung its lies against Geller around the hate campaign against Christians in America being waged by the Jihad, in the form of CAIR. They had the CAIR representative from New York in studio. A total set-up. Geller had no right to reply. Justice out the window!

 

Thus…The BBC this very morning had on this representative of CAIR in New York. This person talked in a slick manner with a clear American accent, but do not be fooled by the American accent, CAIR is an organization which has been proven in an American Court of Law to be supporters of the terrorist group Hamas.

 

Documents which have been recovered and accepted in an American Court of Law have proved that this group is engaged in Jihad in America, that is to overthrow the American Constitution, and to replace it with Sharia Law (their very own words)

 

CAIR this morning (again remember broadcast around the world) referred continually to Pamela Geller as a hate group figure. This is the Big Lie technique. Invert the truth, that is the lie, repeat it hundreds of thousands of times, that is the Big Lie.

 

Calling Pamela Geller and her group SOAS a hate group and a hate figure CAIR this morning with the help of the BBC was broadcasting this filthy lie. Pamela Geller does not ever, ever preach hate as CAIR repeated on the BBC about a hundred times in one interview. What Geller does is explain what Islam is all about, and by the way the people who suffer most under Islam are obviously the poor or rebellious Muslims, and especially women, and it is these women that Geller often defends.

 

In fact it is the opposite. CAIR is the hate group in America. It is promoting the Jihad which promotes a Nazi type hatred against Catholics, Protestants, Hindus, Buddhists, and so on and also mark you against Muslims who do not toe the line. In fact hatred against anybody who is not a devout Muslim.

 

As improbable as it sounds when you listen to these slick talkers CAIR has made it known that it is Jihadist and is preaching the Jihad, which is the violent imposition of Sharia Law on the whole world.

 

But because of the American Revolution the Great American Constitution of separation of Church and State, WHICH KARL MARX SUPPORTED, stand in the way of CAIR and World Jihadism, then America is really in their eyes the GREAT SATAN. (It is often misunderstood, the Jihad is also against Socialism)

 

Also, because Judaism played a big role in the forming of these concepts in the American Constitution, Israel in their eyes becomes LITTLE SATAN.

 

WHAT DID CAIR SAY THIS MORNING?

 

This is an extract. To provide “balance” since the BBC was doing a hit job on Geller without Geller being able to answer back, the interviewer said

 

BBC…She would probably dispute those terms (Hate Group)

 

CAIR…Her organisation speaks for itself and is why her organisation has been designated as a hate group in the United States of America.

 

 

BIG BBC LIE ALERT

 

Right there that is where responsible reporters would say something like “Where, When, By whom and how exactly”.

 

Sadly the BBC has long abandoned the old reporters adage, get the facts, check the facts, report the facts.

 

ABOVE ALL GET THE OPINION OF THE OTHER SIDE

 

A truthful organisation would have had Pamela Geller sitting there in the studio along with CAIR so that Geller could put her point of view ALSO!

 

There followed another long spiel by the CAIR man. He uses the Nazi technique of repetition, repetition. And he uses Goebbels style methods.

 

This low level group, which supports terrorist Hamas, which seeks to overturn the American First Amendment and replace it with Sharia, in the most brazen fashion ASSUMES the High Ground. They as Hamas supporting CAIR, as providing the finance to buy arms for Hamas, is of course according to this guy the holiest of the holiest, they are the most honest to goodness Americans you are likely to meet from the Bronx to Nevada deserts, they are the most moderate, they are the most sensible. And fighting the thankless battle against hate. You know, this guy from CAIR had his spiel on Geller off to a t. It brought home to me as an Irish person what people like Spencer have been saying about how practised in the seductive art of lying these CAIR are in America, and what a danger in their lies they are.

 

Because, you know, this type of stuff ties in with another level of lying about Islam where media people like Steven Gilmour of Talk Radio Europe, I heard him last week talking about giving Morsi a chance in Egypt, and maybe according to Gilmour he Morsi is on the road to reform, just like Adams of PIRA. You know, that kind of shallowness from Gilmour that equates Irish Republicanism with Islam!!! And Gilmour is the chief of that station thanks to the owner Nathan Thomas who is Jewish. And also there is widespread lies in Europe against Israel. The BBC this morning is also running a hit piece on Israel over African immigrants into Israel, without pointing the difficulties of Israel being only the size of Munster.

 

But the very acute listener will have spotted the lies of CAIR. Towards the end of the interview the lady interviewer (there were two) introduced this desperate moaning plea from this lady:

 

 

“Briefly though what can you do given that the Courts have already given her advice that she can put out these ads.”

 

 

Ah, the courts! The courts of America. The courts of the American Constitution. The truly great American Constitution.

 

The BBC lady introduced this element and you want to have heard the poor lady as she moaned about Geller having the backing of the courts. It was the deathly dirge of a Brit who just cannot understand the Great American Constitution.

 

And with this you will have noticed that this vapid British hag of the BBC was not defending Geller for having, God forbid, taken the trouble to square her campaign against Islam with the American Constitution. In other words Geller taking the time and trouble to visit the Court and the Constitution.

 

No for the BBC hag excuse of reporter this was a Big Moan.

 

The BBC hag was mournful that Geller was following the American Constitution!

 

And just there, you will understand if you are even half a student of history, is where the Islam Jihad and the British Establishment come together.

 

They come together IN OPPOSITION TO THE GREAT AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

 

 

Look now at these words of Mr CAIR man this morning. In response to Geller getting the backing of the Courts (Constitution) he replied to the lady BBC Hag reporter, exact words and I place in capitals

 

WELL ONE IS THAT WE HAVE SOUGHT THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

 

Oh really Mr Testosterone CAIR Man! Is that what you have done now!

 

YOU HAVE DISREGARDED THE COURT RULING GIVEN TO THE SOLICITORS OF PAMELA GELLER AND YOU HAVE SOUGHT TO BYPASS THAT BY GOING TO WHAT YOU CALL “ELECTED OFFICIALS”

 

But naturally the obtuse British BBC could not pick up on that. By its very nature it could not pick up on that. The BBC does not understand the American Constitution!

 

 

 

 

THE COMPARISION BETWEEN GELLER AND CAIR IS VITAL TO UNDERSTAND

 

Pamela Geller takes the Constitutional route, gets the train and bus ads squared with the Constitution via the Courts. Does this before she even goes to the printers.

 

This CAIR guy bypasses the Constitution. Repeats and repeats Nazi propaganda style the big lie that Geller equals Hate. Says repeatedly he speaks for the sensible Americans. Goes to elected officials (again he depends on the gutless BBC reporters not to ask precise details) and talks about the bus and train companies placing riders to Geller’s ads to disown the ads, that is for the bus companies to add a disclaimer to the ads of Geller, ads that they have already taken money from Geller to show, and which Geller has cleared from a legal constitutional standpoint.

 

Now THAT is Fascism.

 

Geller plays by the rules of the Constitution and Congress. The other side, CAIR, in a populist Mussolini type fashion, steps out of the boundaries of the Constitution. 

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THE WAR ON ISRAEL BY PALESTINIAN JIHADISTS IS A WAR ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS

City of San Francisco to place sharia-compliant disclaimers next to every AFDI pro-Israel bus ad

Pro-freedom bus ad
PAMELA GELLER WRITES ON ATLAS SHRUGS

“Scott Goldstein, President of Titan Transit advertising, just called me. Titan handles the outdoor ads for San Francisco MUNI and BART.

In an unprecedented move, the city of San Francisco is placing ads right next to every one of our pro-Israel ads on San Francisco Muni buses, saying (according to CBS San Francisco) “Muni doesn’t support this message.”

 

 

This is unprecedented in the history of outdoor advertising. This is the manifestation of Sharia in Western society. Any war on innocent civilians is savage. They are reading the idea that “all Muslims” or “all Arabs” want to destroy Israel into my ad. That is nowhere in my message. They are the Islamophobes and racists.

The rush to assure the world that the “Palestinian” jihadists that they are not savages amazes me. The war on Israel is a war on innocent civilians. The targeting of civilians is savage. The relentless 60-year campaign of terror against the Jewish people is savage. The torture of hostage Gilad Shalit was savage. The bloody hacking to death of the Fogel family was savage. The Munich Olympic massacre was savage. The unspeakable torture of Ehud Goldwasser was savage. The tens of thousands of rockets fired from Gaza into southern Israel (into schools, homes, etc.) are savage. The vicious Jew-hatred behind this genocide is savage. The endless demonization of the Jewish people in the Palestinian and Arab media is savage. The refusal to recognize the state of Israel as a Jewish state is savage. The list is endless.

 

But what galls me are the scores of anti-Israel ads that ran without a disclaimer. Why didn’t they have a problem with the anti-Jewish ads? San Francisco has run a number of anti-israel ad campaigns. Why did they not run this disclaimer next to those ads? That silence is sanction and tacit approval. Institutionalized anti-semitism. Who cares if Muni approves the message or not? It is not their job to agree or disagree.

 

And for the Jews who are silent in the face of Islamic Jew-hatred to issue a kneejerk denunciation of me, you have six million (and counting) voiceless to whom you will have to answer.

 

I want to extend this ad’s run in San Francisco. Please help me do this. Contribute here.

Posted by on Friday, August 17, 2012 Iranian President: “Tumor” of Israel Will Soon Be Destroyed

 

 

WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME IS SUPPORTING THIS AD CAMPAIGN BY PAMELA GELLER 100 PER CENT

 

AND WE ARE DEFENDING GELLER AND SPENCER OF JIHADWATCH AGAINST DHIMMI JEWS WHO DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST THE PALESTINIAN JIHADIST WAR ON ISRAEL AND JEWS. SUCH AS THE ADL!

 

WHY ATTACK GELLER AND SPENCER, 4INTERNATIONAL ASKS?

DID GELLER AND SPENCER SEND SUICIDE BOMBERS IN TO KILL ANY PEOPLE OF ANY DESCRIPTION?

THEY STAND FOR ALL THAT IS DECENT IN LIFE

SO WHAT LIES BEHIND THESE DHIMMI JEW TRAITOR ATTACKS ON THESE TWO AND OTHER FREEDOM FIGHTERS?

 

 

FURTHERMORE IRAN HAS LAST FRIDAY TOLD THE WORLD THAT ISRAEL IS A CANCER THAT WILL BE CUT OUT…IT IS A TUMOUR ETC.

THAT IS THE LANGUAGE OF NAZIS. THAT CAN ONLY END IN THE MURDER OF JEWS AND IF THESE GENOCIDISTS ARE ALLOWED A GREAT KILLING OF JEWS.

 

 

SO PLEASE, WHO ARE THE SAVAGES IN THIS?

 

GELLER IS CORRECT! MORE POWER TO HER CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA. WE NEED IT IN DUBLIN!

 

 

 

Media silence on this relentless genocidal rhetoric against Israel. But my ads are “offensive” and “racist.” If this isn’t savagery, what is?

Ahmadinejad: “Tumor” of Israel Will Soon Be Destroyed
Israel is a “cancerous tumor” that will soon be finished off, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Friday told demonstrators holding an annual protest against the existence of the Jewish state. “The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if one cell of them is left in one inch of (Palestinian) land, in the future this story (of Israel’s existence) will repeat,” he said. “The nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land….A new Middle East will definitely be formed.”  (AFP)
    See also Iran’s Supreme Leader: Liberation of Palestine Responsibility of All Muslims
Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei underlined the importance of this year’s International Quds [Jerusalem] Day rallies, and reiterated that liberating Palestine from the grip of Israel and its allies is a religious duty for all Muslims across the world. The Leader described the occupation of the Palestinian territories and the formation of the Israeli regime as the root of evil in the Middle East. International Quds Day was started by the late Founder of the Islamic Republic, Imam Khomeini. (Fars-Iran)

PAMELA GELLER PROVES THAT THE FASCIST LEFT IS COVERING FOR ISLAM FASCISM…AND OBAMA

The line-up is very clear. There is www.4international.me which is a true socialist and Trotskyist movement.

 

Then there are the Fascist Lefts, just as there were Fascist Lefts in Hitler and Mussolini organizations.

 

Geller is fighting in defence of Israel, in defence of free speech against the Media which hides the real antisemitism of Obama. For that and that only she is attacked by the Fascist Left.

 

This extract from her blog makes interesting reading:

 

PAMELA WRITES: It is well known that I am speaking at BlogCon (which is utterly amazing — the world won’t know what hit ‘em), which Occupiers tried to crash a few months back and were made fools of. They are not here today, because they know they would be ridiculed and not taken seriously, but they descend on college and university campuses because those are their incubation labs. The fascists have successfully seized control of the campuses. Any rational speaker can’t get within twenty feet of them, because they capture the youth and train them (like Hitler) to be their army.

‘Racist Hatemongers?‘ Occupy to Protest ’Islamic Apartheid Conference’ The Blaze April 20

Occupy to Protest of Islamic Apartheid Conference: Fight Back Against These Racist Hatemongers

Occupy demonstrators at Temple University in Philadelphia are planning to protest an “Islamic Apartheid Conference” on Monday featuring activist Pamela Geller and sponsored by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The conference, billed as a “universal symbol of support and encouragement” for “women, gays [and] religious minorities, including Muslims themselves, who are figuratively and physically imprisoned by Shariah and Islam,” will feature Geller, Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch and activist Nonie Darwish as speakers. The event comes on the heels of an “Israeli Apartheid Week” hosted at the university last month.

To counter it, Occupy Temple is joining with the International Socialist Organization, Students for Justice in Palestine and the Party for Socialism and Liberation for a “multi-racial fightback against these racist hatemongers.”

“Geller is known to her fans and critics alike as ‘Queen of the Muslim Bashers,’” the Facebook page for the protest states. “Her views are by no means within the boundaries of reasonable debate.”

It further describes the David Horowitz Freedom Center as “another anti-Muslim group which uses McCarthyist tactics to attack academic freedom around the country.”

The Council on American Islamic Relations has also added its voice to the situation, with the Philadelphia chapter issuing a statement stating in part: “Hate speech should be relegated to the fringes of our society, not given a platform at a prestigious university.”

For her part, Geller on her blog Atlas Shrugs denounced the protesters as “the army of haters — stormtroopers and brownshirts instructed to disrupt and shut down these meetings of freedom’s defenders and human rights activists.”

“This is what we have come to expect from the fascists at America’s colleges and universities,” Geller wrote. “Subversives (like Bill Ayers) and jihadists (like CAIR and Reza Aslan) are welcomed and paid handsomely, but voices for freedom and human rights activists are hunted down and silenced like…dissidents.”

Islamic Apartheid Conference Under Attack by Robert Spencer FrontPage April 20

Leftist and Islamic supremacist thugs are planning to protest the Islamic Apartheid Conference that the David Horowitz Freedom Center is sponsoring at Temple University Monday. Hosted by Students for Intellectual Freedom, the Conference will feature Pamela Geller, Nonie Darwish, Simon Deng and me. In reporting on the coming protests, however, the Philadelphia City Paper noted only that “two of America’s most high-profile anti-Muslim bigots” will be speaking – Geller and me – and doesn’t mention Darwish or Deng even once. The omission was telling, revealing the hypocrisy of the protests as a whole.

Nonie Darwish is an ex-Muslim who grew up learning hatred for Infidels in a Muslim school in Gaza. Simon Deng is a South Sudanese Christian who was held as a slave by Muslim captors for several years. Both of them know Islamic apartheid firsthand, and have been its victims. The Leftists at the City Paper therefore could do nothing but omit them from their story attacking the Conference, for to include them would in itself have been to reveal the reality of what they’re denying: Islamic apartheid.

The City Paper’s story focuses on Pamela Geller, retailing hard-Left talking points against her consisting entirely of distortions, misrepresentations, and outright falsehoods about things she has said and positions she has taken. Its objection to the Conference appears to be that Geller, and apparently therefore also the Conference as a whole, is “anti-Muslim.”

The irony is thick: organizing the protests are Occupy Temple, the International Socialist Organization, Students for Justice in Palestine, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, and other hard-Left community and student organizations, none of which have ever raised the slightest objection to Temple’s Israeli Apartheid Week. Nor would any of them characterize the very idea of Israeli Apartheid Week as anti-Semitic, although anti-Semitism is rife at such events (and our event will not actually be “anti-Muslim” at all). The chief difference, however, between Israeli Apartheid Week and our Islamic Apartheid Conference is simply that there really is Islamic apartheid, but there is no Israeli apartheid.

In Israel, Arab citizens are represented in Knesset and enjoy full legal equality. The very idea of “Israeli Apartheid”  is an attempt to stigmatize, and ultimately destroy, Israel’s efforts to defend itself. Islamic Apartheid, however, is a very different matter. Is it “anti-Muslim” to point out that Islamic law mandates institutionalized discrimination against women? Muslim women are the first victims of Islamic law’s denial of basic rights for women; is it “anti-Muslim” to speak out for them and say that as human beings they deserve better?

TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR DEALING WITH IRAN

 

 

4international makes its position very clear on the Iran Bomb issue.

 

We oppose totally Iran getting the Nuclear Bomb. We believe very firmly with Douglas Murray in a recent lecture when he said that Iran with the Nuclear Bomb would

 

  • be a serious and existentialist threat to Israel

     

  • with the bomb would be much harder for the opposition in Iran to overthrow

 

Murray pointed out that ages ago Rafsanjani had said that only ONE bomb would be enough to destroy Israel.

 

We on 4international have drawn attention to the statements of many Iranian leaders, not just Ahmadinejad, which directly threaten the existence of Israel, which are contained in the compilation of the ADL organization.

 

Because we on 4international raised this on the Indymedia Ireland website everything that we post is immediately removed by the Irish left Fascists who run that anarchist site.

 

On the left www.4international.me is alone in standing behind Israel and in the need to militarily stop Iran from getting the Nuclear Bomb.

 

All sections of the Israeli military leadership now believe that sanctions will not stop Iran from getting the Nuclear bomb.

 

The idea of sanctions stopping these determined Jihadists is a bit of a laugh but that is the centre of the US and the EU approach to the issue.

 

People are now telling lies about Obama. Obama is not fighting against Ikran as these people say. In fact everything Obama and Mrs Clinton do and say is to suck up to Iran. They use the same approach that Chamberlain tried with Hitler and the Nazis.

 

One of these who oppose stopping Iran by military means is Steven Gilmour (or is it Gilmore, he is Scottish of Irish extraction so both work) of Talk Radio Europe. Gilmour is very litigious so we can go no further than to say he claims that the US and the West are “provoking Iran” (Gilmour once threatened legal action against www.4international.me.

 

Even if we on 4international were in a minority of one we would call on the world to stop these antisemites in Iran from having the Nuclear Bomb, and to use all means to do so.

 

(readers should see both www.debka.com and also the Atlas Shrugs website to see more on Obama and Iran. Of great note is that the Obama team are refusing now to prosecute Iran for the bombing in Lebanon of the US barracks in which over 200 US men were murdered by Hizbullah, the Iranian proxy)

 

(Pamela Geller also carries a video on a wonderful speech by Douglas Murray to students in England where he castigates English diplomats for supporting Iran and the Nuclear Bomb)

 

 

Education series by www.4international.me will seek to cover many vital issues dealing with history, and the aim is to create a common body of knowledge with which to go forward. When we build up a readership we will announce the programme of these lectures which will be very wide-ranging in content. In doing this we will use our facebook facility as well as twitter, in fact every method we can master.

AS GOLDBERG SHOWS THE AIM IS TO CLOSE DOWN PAMELA GELLER AND ALL POLITICAL DISCUSSION OF ISLAM

Essentially the issue in Norway is about a cold blooded murderer called Breivik who planted a huge bomb in Oslo (individual terrorism to which Marxists and Trotskyists have always been opposed, whether done by the Provisional IRA or Breivik it is all the same to us…we oppose this under each and every condition without any exception). Using the same murderous method Breivik continued his murder spree by mowing down children and youth attending a labourist youth gathering on an island. All Marxists and Trotskyists historically opposed this sort of thing and we do today, totally and completely.

 

There is also the situation in the world today of severe economic crisis in capitalism, causing deep political crisis

 

Looking at this general world economic crisis in a general sense, what do we see? One thing that is very obvious is that the ruling capitalist classes in their governments have been lining up alongside of Islam, even as Islam is always intent on Jihad. It is in the very nature of Islam to be on its Jihad. It is written deeply into the very foundational documents of Islam. Does that mean that all Muslims are on a violent Jihad? It does not, but it certainly means that a significant number of Muslims are supporters of a violent Jihad. And they are supported and defended by capitalism.

 

Pamela Geller is now being attacked by these very capitalist forces who are in union with the Islamic Jihad. It is an ideological issue. These defenders of capitalism are attacking Geller. They are trying to close down Geller and to close down the whole of the movement which holds the political view that Islam is a very reactionary ideology.

 

Geller hints at but does not make the leap that we on 4international did and do, that the Jihad is being used by very dark forces within capitalism. Geller remains a firm believer in capitalism as a system.

 

We saw these dark forces in the destruction of Yugoslavia.

 

First the CIA was the spearhead behind the Nazi Tudjman and was directly implicated in the worst crime since the Nazis, the driving of Serbs and the murder of Serbs in the Krajina region of Croatia.

 

Then the alliance of western capitalism with Izetbegovic in Bosnia. Then in Kosovo. Then the bombing of Serbia, all actions involving a great Lie campaign, centred on Srebrenica, Racak.

More recently the open alliance with Qaradawi and the Muslim Brotherhood against anti Jihadists like Mubarak and gadhafi

 

 

AS THE ABOVE PICTURE SHOWS AND THANKS TO THE OSLO ACCORDS

…At the same time this was going on, the constant if you like, the Jews of Israel were being attacked time and again, and threatened, by having a Jihadist state called Palestine to be erected on their flank.

 

Indeed the main plotters in this regard were the Norwegian labourites, and the Norwegian so-called peaceniks, in what became known as the Oslo Accords, the result of which was the political and theoretical disarming of the Jews, and the massacre of thousands of Jews on the streets of Israeli cities and towns in the 90s, and the more Jews were murdered the more these Norwegian peace people were blaming the Jews.

 

So at the very least this calls for sensible people to have a close look at the history of the Norwegians, especially their role in the Holocaust, and at history in general

 

I repeat at the risk of boring…we are talking here all the time about particular ideological roots.

 

It is at this time that this particular attack has come upon Geller, and this attack is from a Jew onto another Jew.

 

Try to follow the argument of this guy Goldberg here. The content is a bit confusing because he laces his attack on Geller with some comments from Geller (I have placed Geller in italics to make it easier)

 

On Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Other Jihadists

By Jeffrey Goldberg

Jul 25 2011, 9:05 AM ET

I’m away, and it’s hard to keep up with the news, but it seems as if my arch-nemesis Pamela Geller is in a bit of a pickle because she and her partner-in-Muslim-bashing, Robert Spencer, were favorites of the Norway killer. (Btw, I call her my arch-nemesis, but I’m grateful to her for calling me what I believe to be the best epithet ever, “Jewicidal Jihadi.” Also, “Jihad Jeffro.” All I’ve ever come up with to describe her is “shrieking bigot,” which doesn’t have the same power, or alliterative quality.) Here’s The Times on Geller, and Geller’s delightful response:

Mr. Breivik’s declaration did not name Mr. Kaczynski or acknowledge the numerous passages copied from the Unabomber’s 1995 manifesto, in which the Norwegian substituted “multiculturalists” or “cultural Marxists” for Mr. Kaczynski’s “leftists” and made other small wording changes.

By contrast, he quoted the American and European counterjihad writers by name, notably Mr. Spencer, author of 10 books, including “Islam Unveiled” and “The Truth About Muhammad.”

Mr. Breivik frequently cited another blog, Atlas Shrugs, and recommended the Gates of Vienna among Web sites. Pamela Geller, an outspoken critic of Islam who runs Atlas Shrugs, wrote on her blog Sunday that any assertion that she or other antijihad writers bore any responsibility for Mr. Breivik’s actions was “ridiculous.”

“If anyone incited him to violence, it was Islamic supremacists,” she wrote.

(The above is anything but clear, from this great journalist Goldberg. I think he is counterposing the New York Times and Geller’s response)

Anyway Goldberg goes on to lay down his position clearly. He uses this tragedy for these labour children to knife Geller, remember that, and he is Jewish:

 

Goldblog’s position: Geller is a hatemonger, but she didn’t pull the trigger. Free speech means free speech. But she should be aware now that violent people look to her for guidance, and she should write with that in mind. Which brings me to the subject of the Murfreesboro, Tennessee, mosque, the new “Ground Zero mosque” controversy. People like Herman Cain, who vilify this mosque (and other mosques) should think carefully about the ways in which their words are heard. I worry about a violent reaction to the Tennessee mosque more than I worry about any other terrorism target in America. More on this later, when I have better access to the Web.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/07/on-pamela-geller-robert-spencer-and-other-jihadists/242474/

 

So Goldberg blames Geller for this murderer being born!

 

He is knifing Geller in the back and above all he is calling for the curtailing of the discussion on everything that matters

 

Who in this world want to defeat the necessary airing of views? the nazis that is who.

 

The action of Hitler and the Nazis on taking the power in 1933, largely thanks to the betrayals of the social democrats and the Stalinists, was to curtail (STOP LIQUIDATE END MOST DEFINITIVELY) THE POLITICAL DISCUSSION INSIDE GERMANY)

 

There is a real Nazi Movement developing but it has nothing to do with Breivik or any other individual terrorist. Please help. Please work to defend Pamela Geller and defend the right of free discussion.

GELLER/SPENCER VERSUS GATES OF VIENNA…DO ANY OF THESE CALL FOR VICTORY TO GADHAFI OVER NATO, WHICH IS THE ISSUE?

 

In this conflict between Pamela Geller and Gates of Vienna, which both incorporate a huge swath of blogs etc., I am proud to say that I on behalf of Trotskyism am very definitely located nowhere, but I am evading nothing. As this analysis will show.

 

What is absent in short from this discussion is what is going on in the real world in which we live every day, and foremost at this point in time I would place the war of NATO against the Muammar Gadhafi regime in Libya

 

In this war by NATO on a small part of a country, that represented by Gadhafi, I with 4international line up on the side of Muammar Gadhafi. As I explained before I do not just call to defend Gadhafi, I call for the victory of Gadhafi and his forces against NATO.

 

FOR THE DEFEAT OF AMERICA AND THE EU

I want to see the US ruling class of Obama but also including many others in America defeated in this war. Ditto for those EU ruling governments, in particular the British, but also the Spanish where at present I reside.

 

Got that!

 

Victory to Gadhafi! Defeat for NATO!

 

Also although I would not chose his methods any methods which Gadhafi chooses to use in this war then I defend his use of those methods. I defend Gadhafi against the Fascist NATO in the same way that Leon Trotsky defended Haile Selassie in the 1930s. It is the exact same precedent.

 

THAT IS WHAT IS LEFT OUT OF THIS CONFLICT BETWEEN GELLER AND GATES OF VIENNA OVER THE EDL

 

 

THAT SAID LET US TURN AGAIN TO THIS ISSUE OF THE EDL

The discussion (over the issue of Pamela Geller and the English Defence League) is seriously skewed because while this goes on the Imperialist forces of NATO, especially the US and EU, are engaging in one of the worst imperialist wars ever, which is the campaign to replace the Gadhafi regime with one based on Qaradawi’s Muslim Brotherhood. It is not as if this is new! This is consistent on the part of NATO, from Bosnia, Kosovo, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Egypt and of course Libya.

 

I do not know about G of V, but I do know about the position of Geller and Spencer, because I support their analysis of Islam which has been consistently very precise, and I believe that the campaign against Rauf was most important.

 

Both of these thus do great work in explaining and fighting against the evil ideology of Mohammedanism.

 

DANGER IS NOT ALONE FROM ISLAM…IT IS THE ALLIANCE WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED

But in our period of time the danger does not come alone from Islam. It comes from the alliance of capitalist governments and Islam.

 

This is precisely where I and 4international have continually separated from all of the above. They say it is the Jihad, I say it is the alliance of Imperialism and Jihad. The alliance, a real definite alliance, not people who are mistaken, or who are naive etc.

 

THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WHICH TELLS US THE FUTURE

The President of the US, Obama Husseini, has allied US along with the Muslim Brotherhood, not in a subtle underhand way but in an open and official manner. And US president Husseini has been leading and pushing the Arabs (on behalf og the Muslim Brotherhood) to create a Nazi, Judenfrei, Palestine Arab Jihadist state on the flank of Israel.

(See excellent article on this by Barry Rubin on Pajamas Media)

 

These are the issues, and the role of their own governments in all of this, that is absent from the Open letter to Pamela Geller by the Vienna people, as it is also on Atlas Shrugs. In the absence of this political context, and the role of the Governments of Europe and America in the Imperialist war on Muammar Gadhafi, the latter vital because it happens as we speak, in the present, with the reactionary British elite of Tory/Liberal/Labour playing a leading role along with France, shades of the NATO bombing of Serbia by the same forces, that this conflict between these two sides (now collecting signatures!) becomes meaningless and a politically sectarian affair. That is what must be changed.

 

Where Geller and Spencer go serious wrong is that they separate the reactionary Jihad and issue of supremacist Islam from the overall drive of the Imperialist powers to create dictatorship (of their own) in each country and an overall dictatorship in the shape of some kind of Soros inspired  and media led New World Order. They are in fact supporters of American Imperialism and of the capitalist worldwide system. But in every single situation, from Bosnia and Kosovo to the Ivory Coast, and now Libya, it is these capitalist governments who are in alliance with the reactionary and medieval forces of Islam

 

SETTING UP A JEWISH SECTION WAS AN EVASION OF RESPONSIBILITY…TO JEWS!

It seems to me from what I read so far that Geller and Spencer did not have any right, from the standpoint of parties and groups operating in a fraternal manner, to cut the ground from under the leadership of the EDL. What Geller and Spencer did was not to operate in a fraternal manner in any sense of the meaning of the word fraternal. They may argue that it was for the good of the movement in general. The mistake of setting up a “Jewish section” in the EDL has been compounded by Pamela Geller linking with that Jewish section (Moore) to the exclusion of the central leadership in the EDL around Robinson, Carroll and Price (those I know of)

 

Why was it a mistake to set up a Jewish section? The reason is now in hindsight rather obvious. To use a football metaphor the Jewish issue has been taken off the playing field and placed along the sideline, somewhere round the corner flag

 

The reason why this is so damaging to all concerned is contained in my first statement of yesterday in which I made a fraternal call to the EDL leadership to organise a serious education programme among the ranks, which will deal with the revolutionary origins of the English nation under the Cromwellian Revolution, but followed by the treachery of the Restoration, and the subsequent treachery with cruelty of the British ruling class on an international scale. And with the one exception of Balfour no other people has suffered more and paid a higher price from British treachery than the Jewish people. The British leader Churchill who has a reputation of being for the Jews was the very man who did much damage to Jews. He did this when he treacherously sliced off in an underhand and unilateral manner, the whole of “Transjordan” from the promised (San Remo Treaty of 1920) Homeland, and thus delivered a blow to the Jewish people from which they NEVER recovered. That action of Churchill, acting on British Imperialist interests, sliced off 80 per cent and gave it to the Arabs. And if such an 80% could be sliced off once why not again. The process set in of curtailing the Jews into a smaller and smaller area, a process which condemned the Jews to the Nazi Holocaust, finished off by the British ruling class as a whole via the iniquitous British Parliament’s White Paper of 1939.

That is my central point. The EDL leadship has to be based on that history. Thus they must as a whole fight against antisemitism in Britain in all its forms.

 

THE CRITICAL 1948 PERIOD

Churchill was of course playing as ever up to the Arabs and the Jews have suffered. Thus when the critical 1948 year came along Britain had long been siding with the Arabs against the Jews and in this case, in 1948, actually working with the German Nazis, and with Hajj Amin el Husseini, in the planned continued genocide of the Jews. For the Arabs and the British ruling class the Holocaust did not stop at all in 1945.

 

This has created the situation of today where Britain is allied with Hamas/Fatah (Note they did not prosecute Galloway!) and where President Husseini Obama is recognising along with Jew Hater Hilary the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

DEFENCE OF JEWS AND DEFENCE OF ZIONISM AT THE VERY CENTRE OF EDL

This history of the British towards the Jews is the imperative reason why the struggle for British emancipation which the EDL represents must place in that very central circle of the football field the defence of Israel and the Jews against the dominant ideology in Britain which is anti-Semitism.

 

Posing the issue in this way also shows why Pamela Geller was wrong on a whole number of fronts.

 

  1. There can be no pure movement in Britain free from anti-Semitism because the dominant culture in Britain is just that…anti-Semitism
  2. Rather than a Jewish section playing an imaginary game on the sideline the whole central leadership of the EDL, and other such parties, must place the defence of Jews and the defence of Israel, against British politicians of all stripes, against Hussein Obama, and against Ashton and others on the EU, at the very centre of its political struggle in Britain. We on 4international really do salute the valiant efforts of EDL leaders such as Carroll and Robinson who have already started out on this road. We offer, since this is not an individual speaking but the organization and website 4international, every possible support and assistance, offered from the standpoint of Trotskyist independence and of fraternity. It goes without saying that the Spencer and Geller formula “we have our eye on you” is extremely reactionary, is quite hostile actually, and is rooted in misconceptions of what national liberation movements actually are. Also, believe it or not, in how superior is America, while in point of fact in many ways the British workers are far in advance of the American workers. For example, it is possible that the EDL leaders may fail and will be submerged by the dominant antisemitic ideology in Britain. The important thing though is the fight against antisemitism.
  3. It therefore goes without saying that the present anti-Semitic “left” does not in any way represent socialism. We do. Join us. This antisemitic “left” has to be confronted and this is where we really separate from all!
  4. Point 3 above needs to be taken very seriously. One of the features of the present situation is that all of the groups on the left are in support in one way or another of Fascist Islam. It is like a repeat writ large of the Stalin alliance with the Nazis prewar. And people who are really serious about the future, and serious about the future of the working class, and since we are talking about the EDL here, about the British working class, must address this central question of socialist leadership. It is the absence of a Trotskyist Party, fighting against Islam, fighting against NATO, fighting against anti-Semitism and for the unconditional defence of Israel…that is the biggest factor of all. THAT should be the starting point in this discussion between Geller and gates of Vienna. As to the whole idea of signatures well that solves not a single thing.

SREBRENICA IS STARTING TO BE PROVED TO BE HOAX…BUT REMEMBER THAT IT IS THE SAME AS THE WAR ON GADHAFI

You cannot prevent the truth from coming out and this article by Julia Gorin, essentially about Srebrenica, and its introduction by Pamela Geller, is part of the truth about this greatest hoax of our times, if not of all time, getting abroad.

 

Gorin is right, the fact that this important news source, “Russia Today” is questioning the evidence of Srebrenica is a major blow against the Oliver Kamms and the others who have labelled those of us, especially 4international, as “genocide deniers”

 

There are two facts which 4international has continually emphasised; perhaps I would add one other to the following two:

 

1.     The very weighty “Dutch Report” clearly stated that they could find not ONE eye witness to say they SAW one murder by a Serb soldier when the Serbs entered the Srebrenica town

2.     The only “evidence” was the “evidence” of the supergrass Drazen Erdemovic who claimed in The Hague Kangaroo Court that he and 7 others murdered 1200 Muslims in a farm. But the prosecutors only called Erdemovic and not the 7 others, one of whom was the commander of Erdemovic, to give evidence at their Hague kangaroo Court. Suspicious or what!

3.     And the third point which really never should be left out is that journalists reported seeing Bin Laden being entertained at the court of the leader of the Muslims in Bosnia, Izetbegovic, in the early 1990s, as he was on his way to assembling the team who carried out the atrocity in New York, some years later. Many of these killers were trained in Bosnia linked to Iran.

 

(begin excerpt from 4international here)

 

According to the report, while Prentice was waiting in Izetbegovic’s foyer for an interview she, and a journalist from Germany’s Der Speigel, “saw Osama bin Laden being escorted into Izetbegovic’s office… needless to say this evidence did not sit well with the tribunal.”

 

Prentice was by no means the first to make the bin Laden-Bosnia connection. Izetbegovic’s plans for making Bosnia an Islamic state were long known, and the fact that there was a strong foreign mujahedin presence in Bosnia, would both indicate that her squelched testimony was highly relevant indeed.

 

However, as in all the other tribunals designed to bolster the Official Truth established by government interests – not least of all the 9/11 Commission – evidence such as hers is blotted out immediately or blocked in advance.

 

And vitally, the mass media has lost interest too, now that the “good news” has stopped flowing in like it used to, when the prosecution against Milosevic had the momentum. Since the former Yugoslav president has taken the offensive, however, Western media coverage has stopped altogether, expect for the occasional report fearing that his various illnesses might interfere with “justice” being done.

(from an article Eve Ann Prentice

 

 

These are the issues and it is on these key issues that the disinformation is concentrated.

 

For example, following the arrest of Ratko Mladic, who is actually nothing more than a Serb Christian patriot thrown against his will into a fight for survival against the Islamic Jihad which is in alliance with a western capitalist elite, the website in London called “Harry’s Place” ran several articles, with extensive comments, but not once was reference made to the key document in all of this, that is the book by Germinal Civikov, written in German but translated now into English, so there is no excuse, which clearly proves that there is no evidence provided except the “evidence” of this supergrass of the Balkans, Erdemovic

 

What happens is this and it happened time and time again in the North of Ireland:

 

  1. 1.     Get somebody with a shady past
  2. 2.     Offer him or her salvation (meaning keep out of prison)
  3. 3.     Sugar the pill, a life elsewhere, money in the currency of new residency, job etc.

Having done that the supergrass becomes an empty vessel, and the evidential operation runs along these lines:

 

STEP NUMBER ONE…Special Branch pours “evidence” in one end

 

STEP NUMBER TWO…The supergrass appears for his day in court and the “evidence” emerges out the other end

 

We on 4international have said this all along. Now that the great freedom fighter Pamela Geller is taking up the issue things will change, a lot.

 

Expect sustained campaign of hatred directed at Geller. Now that Geller is on board it will be harder to “ignore” Gorin.

 

Also, in direct proportion to the success of the truth coming out, expect also the direct murder of Ratko Mladic, just as Slobodan Milosevic was also murdered in his Hague Prison, by poisoning. In other words Geller and Gorin are confronting an enemy which although bankrupt, is very dangerous.

 

For the First Time upon the Capture of a Wanted Serb, a News Broadcast Questions the Evidence

A crack in the wall of disinformation and lies in the ongoing blood libel against the Christian Serbs. The lie must be protected at any and all costs. Cowardly clowns like Jeffrey Goldberg pile on to score points with the propagandists and smear merchants (of which he prides himself of being). This faux Jew calls me a “genocide denier.” These anti-intellectuals disregard concretes and claim that the widely disputed and inflated figure of some eight thousand (though many say it was hundreds) dead is a “genocide. ” Though little is made of the “genocide” of Christians that precipitated defensive action.

The murder of six million Jews is genocide.

The slaughter of millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians genocide of millions is “genocide.” But do not dare use that word. You can’t call the Islamic slaughter of millions “genocide” because …….. it will offend the ummah. As for Jeff the JINO, Jews must protect ourselves from these enemies (cowardly liars)  masquerading as landsmen.

For the First Time upon the Capture of a Wanted Serb, a News Broadcast Questions the Evidence Julia Gorin

OK, so it’s “Russia Today” — and will therefore be blindly dismissed by most Americans — but I nonetheless have to take note of the fact that this is the first time, to my knowledge, that any news broadcast has had the audacity to report the paltriness of the evidence against an accused Serb upon his capture, rather than “tastefully” joining in on the anti-Serb wilding.

This means the information is finally getting out, including the fact that DNA CANNOT tell you the cause or manner of death. Here are the RT broadcasts, with the highlights appearing in print:

“Tribunal toys with body of evidence in Mladic case

REPORTER: …The Hague tribunal does have a lot of evidence regarding the massacre, but is all of it valid? […]

STEFAN KARGANOVIC (of the Srebrenica Historical Project): The forensic evidence certainly does not support the extravagant charges of 8,000 victims, and much of the evidence of legitimate combat deaths that occurred during that period is studiously ignored by the Hague tribunal and by the press because they have to do it if they are to bolster the number of casualties to come somewhat closer to the target figure of 8,000.

REPORTER: There are questions about the way the evidence has been interpreted. For instance with the autopsy reports. The ICTY presents 3,568 reports as corresponding to 3,568 bodies. But many researchers who went through the files say most of them are body parts, which means a lot less [sic: fewer] people.

ALEKSANDAR PAVIC (Balkans and ICTY observer): The Hague always has kind of done things as they go along. It’s been an improvisation. They’ve changed indictments on people. They’ve written indictments on people who have actually been already exported to the Hague. Meaning, first you get arrested and then you get an indictment. That’s the way the Hague works. So it won’t be a surprise if they adjust the indictment a few more times. They did it with Milosevic, they did it with others, they’ve done it with Seselj. So it’s just standard procedure with the Hague tribunal.

REPORTER: So the ICTY may well find itself in a tight spot again. More and more people are criticizing their lack of objectivity, and they have yet to complete a high-profile case…

Next was a June 4 broadcast, which appeared in two different edits:

 

 

REPORTER: …Despite the claims of 8,000 murdered men and boys, many of those who have studied those documents say that most of the reports actually concern body parts. They also say that there is no discernible way to determine which of those people died as a result of the Balkans war.

MARKO GASIC (Balkans expert): Those original figures of 8,000 came about from the Izetbegovic Islamist side. They were prepared in advance. Thousands of people were hidden, soldiers, and redrafted back into the Bosnian Islamist forces without their families even being informed. So there is certainly a great deal of exaggeration in this figure…This tribunal, you should remember, is not a court — it is a tribunal, with all the dubious ad-hoc quasi-legal procedures that that can involve. The Guantanamo Bay of Europe where people are held for years without trial, waiting for trial, when their verdict is known in advance. In fact, it’s even worse than the Guantanamo Bay of Europe, because at least there at Guantanamo Bay the judges know what the rules are. At the Hague tribunal, the kangaroo court, the rules are worked out as they go along, and always at the expense of the Serbs. […]

Note: I’ve never been too concerned with the Guantanamo Bay facility or how the “people” there are adjudicated; however, I appreciate Mr. Gasic being honest enough to at least make the distinction he does.

The other edit:

…GASIC (holding up a few documents): Here you have pictures of people’s graves who were on the list in the Srebrenica Missing, as it were, and they died in previous years. Or there are people here, again who died in previous years, who are on the Srebrenica list of missing-presumed-killed by the Serbs.

REPORTER: It’s impossible to talk about Srebrenica and not mention all the other atrocities that took place here. This is Srebrenica; just a few miles out is the village of Kravica where Bosnian-Muslim general Naser Oric literally wiped out the entire village. Throughout two years, Naser Oric tore through the region of Sreb destroying at least 150 villages and massacring over 3500 people, so the case against Mladic…does seem to be biased…The very prominent cases of course concerned mostly Serb generals….[Oric] was cleared by the Hague tribunal of all charges, so these fears of the Hague’s inability to be objective do seem to be substantiated.

The reporter also makes the key point that the Hague, for all the universally deferential citing of its rulings and “judgments” — as if they’re legally legitimate and adhere to a Western understanding of jurisprudence — is a political tool, not a legal one.

The only additional point I would make about the reporting is that she cites the “3,500″ figure in reference to the number of Serbs killed in and around Srebrenica. The opposing figure is closer to 1,500, and what accounts for the difference is something Stefan Karganovic — who goes with the smaller figure — explained to me. The higher figure includes the deaths at Bratunac in 1992, before the Srebrenica enclave was set up and therefore a separate chapter, as he sees it:

I was raised in the US and everything I do I try to be fair and honest about it, and not just push a tribal “truth.” Bratunac was under Serbian control throughout the war, although Moslem lines were just a short walk away. The only time Bratunac Serbs paid with their lives was in 1992 when Moslems, who had been arming themselves way before the conflict actually started, tried to stage an armed takeover there, as they did in a number of other communities, and failed. But that was before the Srebrenica enclave was set up and the carnage in the villages surrounding Srebrenica began. Our focus is on deaths that resulted from attacks originating from Srebrenica. I am trying to keep things separate on the Serbian side, just as I am insisting that Moslems keep their legitimate column casualties separate from execution victims. Balkan people are great at twisting everything to fit their agenda, but I was not brought up in the Balkans.

Meanwhile, I learned yesterday that even with all the pro-Muslim shenanigans at the Hague for the past 20 years, the Congress of North American Bosniaks, the Institute for Genocide Research Canada (IRGC), and the Australian Council of Bosnian Herzegovina Organizations (ACBHO) “request that the ICTY Court remove Judge Flügge from his role in the proceedings against Ratko Mladic, or in any case dealing specifically with charges of genocide. We are surprised that Judge Flügge would be once again assigned to a case dealing with charges of genocide due to his unapologetic comments in 2009 in the German weekly magazine “Der Spiegel” in which he openly questioned the classification of Srebrenica genocide.”

Now, if you read the Der Spiegel story, you’ll see that the judge holds all the typical, “correct,” pro-Muslim opinions about the Balkans wars. Not good enough! Why? Because he said it’s not any better to kill people because they all happen to be in a particular location than to kill them because of who they are — basically a statement against the legal classification “hate crime.” Which, if one thinks back a decade, had a lot of opponents who questioned whether the law should consider it worse to kill someone because you hate him than because the victim is, for example, elderly and an easy target to rob and kill.

But, again, the Muslims desperately need their genocide, and Flugge has the gall to deprive them of it. Not only did the judge commit the unforgivable sin, he added insult to injury by adding, “Strictly speaking, the term genocide only fits to the Holocaust.” Which, off the bat, negates the whole point of the whole exercise of the hard-won “genocide.” (Equal political footing with Jews, whom they see as deriving much of their sympathy and clout from the Holocaust.)

Never mind that he still grants them mass murder, a greater crime than what actually happened, and never mind that everything has been going their way for 20 years at the Hague — this guy’s gotta go!

Joining this judge in running afoul of Bosnian Muslims is an Ottawa Sun columnist named Michael Coren, against whom one of the above-named groups (IRGC) sent a letter of protest to the editors. Never mind that his Thursday column began with the following dutiful paragraph:

I don’t think any civilized and informed person either condemns or doubts the reason why Ratko Mladic was arrested by Serbian security forces, and handed over to an international war crimes trial in The Hague. He is alleged to have led a force that slaughtered 8,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys, and almost certainly did so.

It’s what the rest of his article showed he understood, that got to them:

Why are the Serbs the only ones targeted, [Mladic supporters] say, and why does the west, for example, not deal with the Islamic terror groups in Kosovo, and with Serbs being pushed from their homes in that troubled region?

They have a point. Washington and Europe have been enormously selective in their morality, and some of this is likely connected to the Americans and British in particular wanting to show the Islamic world that they care for the safety and plight of the world’s Muslims.

If so, they are incredibly naive.

Various Arab leaders may talk about the suffering of their fellow Muslims, but it is in fact their fellow Muslims who they themselves treat so badly on a regular basis.

The Serbian Orthodox nationalist Mladic may well have murdered 8,000 Muslims in Bosnia, but Hafez al-Assad, the father of the current Syrian leader, killed more Muslims than that in a single day when he wanted to demonstrate his authority and dissuade his people from revolution.

Boy Assad, the weak son, has probably gone past the 1,000 mark now, as he kills innocent people who even attend a funeral for a fallen protestor.

The Jordanian government is one of the more reasonable in the Islamic world, but in 1970 it killed more than 10,000 Palestinians, and the Arab nationalist icon General Nasser gassed entire villages in Yemen…The arrest of a Serb warlord is irrelevant to people who have no concern for their own, let alone for others.

If I were a Serb, I’d feel a little angry. As an unaligned commentator, I’m absolutely disgusted.

What Flugge and Coren seem to be almost alone in not having learned: Even minimal dissent will not be tolerated. Look around, guys — do you see any anywhere? That’s why even non-dissenting dissent like yours has kicked up a shit storm.

As for you specifically, Coren: No one has ever had the audacity to put themselves in the Serbs’ shoes, so don’t think of starting now. Speaking of which, why are you trying to do your own thinking on this? It’s been done for you, and so far everyone’s happy with it.

In closing, let’s notice that Coren has hit on yet another Israel-Serbia commonality: the fixation on Israeli/Serb behavior in the face of incomparably more numerous and heinous crimes by truly terrifying regimes, most notably those of Muslim governments against Muslims.

That Coren was able to notice in regard to Serbia what so far has only been noticed in regard to Israel is to his additional credit

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/06/for-the-first-time-upon-the-capture-of-a-wanted-serb-a-news-broadcast-questions-the-evidence.html

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2644

The key Germinal Civilov book about Erdemovic is on

http://www.scribd.com/doc/45003051/Srebrenica-The-Star-Witness-Germinal-Civikov-Edward-S-Herman-Stefan-Karganovic

This book is brilliant. It details basically the making of a supergrass. The name of the supergrass who is so critical to the whole Srebrenica Massacre story and Case in the Hague is Drazen Erdemovic.

Without the “evidence” of this supergrass, as the weighty and respectable Dutch Report made clear, there is not one iota of evidence that the Serb soldiers on capturing Srebrenica murdered a single Muslim. They fought a battle yes, but carried out murders…no!

Mladic and all the other Serb prisoners in the Hague and elsewhere are innocent. They must be freed at once.

Meanwhile Nasir Oric and other Jihadists are walking about ikn freedom, with heads held high, protected by the international lie machine, the same lie machine that is threatening Mubarak with execution at the hands of The Muslim Brotherhood, and threatening thanks to Cameron et al the very life of Muammar Gadhafi, in the cruel bombing (by the great RAF) of Tripoli…IT IS ALL THE SAME BATTLE

THE FASCIST LEFT IN EUROPE HATE PAMELA GELLER AND THE CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA AGAINST HONOUR KILLING OF YOUNG MUSLIM GIRLS

HOW CAN THEY IGNORE THIS, ESPECIALLY HOW CAN THEY IGNORE THIS IN EUROPE

ABOVE ALL HOW CAN THEY IGNORE THIS FIGHT AGAINST ISLAM CONDUCTED BY PAMELA GELLER AND THE ORGANIZATIONS SET UP TO FIGHT ISLAMIZATION IN AMERICA

THEY ARE LIARS THAT IS WHY, REACTIONARY LIARS, WHO BLOCK THE TRUTH

LOOK AT THE PICTURES ON THIS AMAZING BANNER BELOW. REPORT WAS ON YAHOO NEWS. BIG ISSUE!

THE ORGANIZATION IS:   American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI)/Stop Islamization of America (SIOA)

“Justice for Fatima” Protest June 10th, Tampa, Florida
Stand Against Honor Killing Cover-Up

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TAMPA, Fla., May 31, 2011 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — A prominent national human rights and advocacy organization is calling upon Tampa city and Florida state officials to conduct an honest and thorough investigation into the suspicious death of Fatima Abdallah.

The Florida chapter of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI)/Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) is holding a Rally for Justice for Fatima Abdallah at 2 p.m. on June 10 at Lykes Gaslight Park in front of Tampa Police Headquarters. The Rally will include a news conference.

Speakers will call upon State Attorney Mark Ober, Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn and Tampa City Council Members to recognize the numerous anomalies in the Tampa Police Department report that ruled Fatima Abdallah’s death a suicide, and to open a genuine investigation into the possibility that she was murdered in an Islamic honor killing.

The Tampa Police report claims that Abdallah committed suicide by repeatedly striking her head against a coffee table. AFDI/SIOA Executive Director Pamela Geller said in a statement: “The idea defies logic, belies reality.” She announced that the Rally for Justice for Fatima Abdallah would feature a great deal of evidence that the Tampa Police investigation was drastically flawed, and that the Police Department and Medical Examiner ignored numerous indications that Fatima Abdallah did not commit suicide, but was brutally assaulted. Then when challenged, their explanation only exposed more inconsistencies and raised more questions.

Geller also pointed out that Fatima Abdallah was “a Muslim woman shunned by her devout Muslim family for her ‘shameful’ divorce” – and hence a possible victim of Islamic honor killing, in which a woman who has brought “shame” to the family is murdered in order to preserve family “purity.” Neighbors reported that Fatima Abdallah was abused by her family, but that they had been too frightened themselves of the abusers to report it.

“We cannot and will not tolerate the covering up of honor killings in the U.S.,” Geller said. “Our law enforcement authorities should be standing up against this practice. The cover-up is criminal, and we must protest the silence and complicity of Florida law enforcement. This looking the other way on honor killing is Sharia law — if this family weren’t Muslim, law enforcement would have handled this completely differently.”

Geller also noted that “at the exact same time of Fatima Abdallah’s alleged honor killing, Rifqa Bary was not 85 miles away, fighting for her very life under the same deathly system of misogyny and Islamic domination that Fatima had lived under. Rifqa Bary had escaped to Florida after her father had threatened to kill her when he found out that she had left Islam and converted to Christianity. Ohio and Florida law enforcement refused to address the religious motivation behind the death threat made to Rifqa’s life. A brutal honor killing of a Muslim woman not 85 miles away would certainly have swayed the court of public opinion. This is the continuation of self-enforcing Sharia law in America.”

The confirmed list of speakers at the Rally for Justice for Fatima Abdallah includes Geller, the popular blogger and columnist who publishes the acclaimed AtlasShrugs.com blog and is the author of The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America (Simon & Schuster); AFDI/SIOA’s Associate Director, the bestselling author and internationally renowned Islamic expert Robert Spencer; Nonie Darwish, the ex-Muslim human rights activist and author; David Caton of the Florida Family Association, who conducted a thorough independent investigation exposing the numerous errors and falsehoods in the Tampa Police Department report, James Lafferty of the Virginia Anti-Shariah Task Force; and Larissa Scott, leader of SIOA’s Florida chapter.

AFDI/SIOA is one of America’s foremost organizations defending human rights, religious liberty, and the freedom of speech against Islamic supremacist intimidation and attempts to bring elements of Sharia to the United States.

Join SIOA’s Facebook page here.

http://www.atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

CONCLUSION 4INTERNATIONAL

THE THING WHICH DISGUSTS ME MOST IS THE PHENOMENON OF REPORTERS WHO DO NOT REPORT. THE FASCIST LEFT IN EUROPE HATE PAMELA GELLER. NOT HEARD OF HER? WELL THAT IS BECAUSE THE FASCIST LEFTS HATE HER AND WHAT SHE STANDS FOR. LIKE THE CIVIKOV BOOK THEY HIDE HIDE HIDE!

MUSLIM GIRL OF 19 STONED TO DEATH FOR TAKING PART IN A BEAUTY CONTEST

Muslim girl, 19, “stoned to death after taking taking part in beauty contest,” Muslim Youths killed her Claiming Death was Justified under Islam

 

I wonder will the feminist called Hannah Murry do a slot on her radio show on Talk Radio Europe on this

 

Or will the MediaMatters.org supporter “Richie” Allen on Talk Radio Europe cover this story. Allen hates Pamela Geller who has covered this

 

Pamela writes (story is from The Daily Mail):

And when they come for the feminists, their daughters and their sisters — we will respond in kind. Their silence on the oppression, brutality and subjugation of women  in Islam makes them as guilty as the murderers. Their silence is their sanction.

Daily Mail starts here

Muslim girl, 19, ‘stoned to death after taking taking part in beauty contest’ Daily Mail (ha tip Atlas readers)

A teenage Muslim girl was stoned to death under ‘Sharia law’ after taking part in a beauty contest in Ukraine.

Katya Koren, 19, was found dead in a village in the Crimea region near her home.

Friends said she liked wearing fashionable clothes and had come seventh in a beauty contest. Her battered body was buried in a forest and was found a week after she disappeared.

Katya Koren, 19, lived in the Crimea region of the Ukraine. Her battered body was found buried in woodland

Police have opened a murder probe and are investigating claims that three Muslim youths killed her claiming her death was justified under Islam. 

One of the three – named as 16-year-old Bihal Gaziev – is under arrest and told police she had ‘violated the laws of Sharia’.

Gaziev said he had no regrets about her death because she had violated the laws of Islam. 

4INTERNATIONAL DEFENDS PAMELA GELLER AGAINST THE INDEPENDENT SCURRILOUS ATTACK AND ALSO AGAINST THIS POLITICAL CREEP CHARLES JOHNSON

IT IS VITAL THAT A UNITED FRONT IS CREATED TO DEFEND THE STRUGGLE AGAINST DICTATORSHIP IN EUROPE AND AMERICA, WHICH ITSELF IS CONNECTED TO THE DEFENCE OF ISRAEL, AND THE EXPOSURE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ANTISEMITISM BEING BEBIND THE SO CALLED “ARAB SPRING”

BUT THERE ARE ENEMIES TO THIS UNITED FRONT, ONE OF WHICH IS THE BLOG PAJAMAS MEDIA AS PRODUCED BY CHARLES JOHNSON. (more later)

Pamela Geller has come under a vicious attack from the London paper, The Independent. This is the paper close to Harry’s place, close to Oliver Kamm who now writes for the Times.

In fact The Independent expresses the very worst of British hypocricy and reaction on the world stage.

It was The Independent which led in the lies against the Serbs in former Yugoslavia. So Geller is in good company (with the Serbs!)

Johnson

This revealing comment appeared after the Independent attack on Geller by Johnson. It was a comment out of the blue on Libya which followed the slander against Geller by Charles Johnson. It seems out of the blue but is actually very revealing indeed!

This person wrote:

I might start doing page for Libya Updates soon, Explanation of what’s happened that day in the evening.

However, further good news. The rebels are about to enter Zliten for the next battle. And shelling of Misrata has stopped, so all sorts of supplies and shenanigans and enter the city.

 

“Further good news”, this man says. The Libyan “Rebels” are in reality The Muslim Brotherhood and the opposition to Muammar Gadhafi is in reality The Muslim Brotherhood

This man on Johnson’s blog Pajamas Media (unopposed)  is lining up with The Muslim Brotherhood and against Muammar Gadhafi.

Now it so happens that Obama, the Democrats, and a goodly section of the Republicans in America are also trying to create a new virtual reality, Muslim Brotherhood good, Salafists bad.

Except that this falls apart when one remembers Muslim Brotherhood IS Salafism!

Remember also that in this Obama speak world of lies this all leads to the acceptance of Hamas as a “moderate” party and therefore the acceptance by Israel of a Hamas dominated “Palestinian” Arab State on the flank of Israel.

Would that state be peaceful? Apparently so, to follow this twisted logic being promoted, promoted by Obama and the EU Establishment, also it seems by Charles Johnson.

The appearance is an attack on Geller. The essence though, which lies within and hiding behind that appearance, is that Israel must accept a Hamas dominated Sharia state on its own land, which is Judea and Samaria, but at any rate directly on its new border.

Let us take the scurrilous attack on Geller before we do the Independent. This is what Johnson wrote:

The Independent’s Robert Chalmers has a very balanced and fair look at Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?

And of course, any balanced and fair examination of the Shrieking Harpy can only come to one conclusion: she’s desperately unhinged.

What’s striking about this article, though, is that Geller completely lacks the courage of her convictions. When confronted about her bizarre, hate-filled posts, she invariably attempts to pretend she didn’t really say what she did really say. It’s a “joke,” or it’s somebody else’s writing that she just happened to put on her blog for no particular reason, or it’s “taken out of context.” Like many extremists and bigots, underneath the bluster and the hateful statements Geller is a coward.

For example:

Among the many new things I have learnt from the work of Pamela Geller is that President Obama reputedly used to knock around with a crack whore.

“That,” the author, blogger and broadcaster insists, “is not what I said. You are taking this out of context. The post [on her website atlasshrugs.com] was pointing out how people were reporting lie after lie about Sarah Palin. I said to myself, there is so much about Obama we don’t print. In his youth,” she continues, repeating a story for which there exists absolutely no foundation, “he supposedly liked a girl who was a crack whore. I never reported it as fact. They say all these vile things about Palin but do we ever talk about Obama and the crack whore?”

The incredibly libellous post, entitled: “IT’S TIME TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA” appeared on 1 August 2009. “Why not tell the truth about Obama and his reported strange sexual predilections?” Geller wrote. “It is well known that he allegedly was involved with a crack whore in his youth. Very seedy stuff … Find the ho, give her a show! Obama allegedly trafficked in some very deviant practices.”

Pretty hard to take that out of context, wouldn’t you say?

Then Johnson adds:

Chalmers emailed me to ask for my reaction to Geller’s insults:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38569/comments/#cc9067095

I would not wish to pursue Johnson’s smell any further because it is not a pleasant smell to follow.

Except to point to that  last reference (to the email made by The Independent to Johnson) that they do flock together with a sure instinct.

On the Geller blog  Atlas Shrugs I took up this reference made by The Independent above:

“the incredibly libellous blog”

as being the pivotal comment by The Independent.

 

I highlight this off the cuff remark by The Independent because it points to where the centre of this struggle really must be concentrated, it must focus on defence of the First Amendment

This is not to suggest that struggles in Israel or in Europe in defence of basic rights should not be fought, but to say that the focus has to be the defence in America of the First Amendment

And that is why this spokesperson for Obama, Johnson, and why this mouthpiece of British Imperialism, The Independent, attack Pamela Geller

Thus you will find my comment in defence of Pamela Geller on the Atlas Shrugs site this morning:

 
I defend Pamela Geller against this abomination who calls himself a journalist.

But the issue is wider even than this attack.

What is called in historical socialist circles as the United Front

As opposed to the present Fascist “Left” hatred of Pamela Geller and many others.

I take these attacks on Pamela very seriously and they are a major danger to free speech to all

Geller is leading the fight against Obama, but in essence this is leading the fight against dictatorship, which is taking a number of forms, one but only one of which is the Sharia issue

Remember the Independent led in the destruction of Yugoslavia and the hounding of its President Slobodan Milosevic, who was it must be remembered and emphasised poisoned by the NATO in his NATO jail

The most serious charge by this Independent writer was that the article by Pamela was incredibly “libellous”.

This writer is actually correct on that. If Pamela was writing in any country in Europe, any at all, it would be libellous.

Only because there exists the First Amendment is that article not libellous in America.

This points to the best way forward which centres on the defence of the First Amendment in America, where this battle now should concentrate.

I call for a United Front to defend Geller from The Independent, and to defend Spencer from threats of physical attacks, to defend Geert Wilders etc.

I represent true socialism and there is another history to this socialist movement that not everybody is aware of.

 

may 16 2.56 am (american time)

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