4international declares enmity to those who do not defend Putin against Imperialism

What is Zionism? Zionism is in its essence the struggle for a Jewish Homeland. We on 4international defend that completely. Is Zionism different from the Irish (to give one example) national liberation movement down the centuries. It is more long lived going back 3000 years but in essence it is the same.

It is becoming clearer that the Capitalist Zionist leaders cannot lead to victory.

These Zionist leaders are now lining up WITH OBAMA and against the national rights of the Russian people, in Russia because that is what the Ukraine issue is all about. The US Government and the EU were up to their necks in intrigue in Ukraine in which they were supporting FASCIST communist haters, also by the way Jew Haters. We have a picture of Victoria Nuland the US Undersecretary of State handing out food treats to these Fascists in the Maidan Square

It is hard not to draw the severest conclusions about all of these Capitalist Zionist leaders from this experience.

4international is a fighter for Zionism but we are indeed disgusted and repelled by the support which Zionist bourgeois leaders are giving to NATO, Kerry, the UN, Obama and Cameron on this issue of Ukraine.

This was the time! This was the time when Jews had to take a principled stand, dismiss the Kerry BBC lies about Russia and Ukraine, and fight to oppose the Fascists who took over the Government of Ukraine illegally. They all failed in their own very miserable way. This is the end of the road for bourgeois Zionism.

This is a signal for all Jews of character to break from these leaders but/and far more important to build 4international as the alternative leadership for the Jews and for all of humanity.
Examples of these Capitalist Zionist leaders are: Israpundit, Jews News, Breitbart, Pamela Geller, Jihadwatch and Frontpagemag.

All of these are in support of Obama and are sticking a knife into the back of Putin on behalf of Obama

There is not ONE statement of principled support for Putin in defence of Russian Rights in the Crimea and indeed in Ukraine against a crisis hit US Imperialism.

Note how CRISIS DRIVEN the US is. They are preparing to take on and defeat a NUCLEAR armed power which is Russia.

Look at the risks they are running there. The US and EU are risking everything by taking on Russia and backing Fascists. The question is what then will Obama not be prepared to do against Israel, which is a far lesser power than Russia.

Yet the nature of Bourgeois Jews like above is that they are so wedded to Capitalism that they MUST drag their sorry bourgeois Zionist asses into the lobby behind the worst Antisemite on the Planet Obama and his Democratic and Republican flunkeys

The crisis in capitalism deepens and we face another major convulsion, we expect over the next 12 months it will be convulsion after convulsion. Warren Buffett is predicting a major economic collapse. That means dictatorship or moves towards dictatorship in EVERY country.

Spain is one of the nearest to dictatorship. Youth unemployment remains 70 per cent and perhaps even more. The Rajoy PP Government says that they are getting better “poco a poco” bit by bit. But the youth in Spain sense that this is a false hope and anyway too slow. Conclusion Spanish capitalism is bankrupt.

UNCONDITIONAL DEFENCE OF PUTIN IS VITAL
This crisis in capitalism means above all war with Russia so that NATO can defeat Russia and destroy Putin, thus breaking the country up into their planned regions. The defence of Putin now becomes as important as was the defence of Milosevic.

Putin meanwhile is caught in the world capitalist trap, since it is a world unified capitalist economy the Russian state is now highly dependent on the export of petrol and gas. But that export keeps on adding to global warming, and in turn that global warming is destroying the Arctic and will cause huge crisis in China, as they use up all available water including from the Glaciers. In California and Spain the water table is lowered continually by drilling and capitalist food production methods are a disaster for humanity..

It adds up to NATO war against Russia. Putin emerges as the Milosevic. He is continually lied against.

This is a major turning point. Any person on my Facebook Friends who does not take an ACTIVE position in defending Russia is going to be defriended by me rapidly. But it goes much further than this and we are not needing just words but the real creation of an alternative in leadership.

Meanwhile we will proceed to put together a real cadre of fighting Trotskyists. State your position now!

THREAT AGAINST JEWS, THREAT AGAINST RUSSIA FROM UKRAINE

The US cum EU takeover of Ukraine and their backing of open Fascists in Ukraine is causing a direct threat to all the Jews who live in Ukraine. All Jews are being advised by rabbis to get out of Ukraine by all and any means posible. This is not only the fault of the Fascists, they do what they do, but is the total responsibility of especially the Obama and German/British Governments, who have spurred the Fascists into action, with top Obama agent Victoria Nuland handing out cakes to the Fascists in their notorious “Maidan” Square Protest

Anne Applebaum who is half Polish and is married to a Polish Minister was on the horrific BBC morning programme today and her hatred of Russia was overpowering. She is planning to use the Muslim Tatars in the Crimea as a battering ram (Jihad?) against Russia.

Nuland was caught on tape saying that the US was aiming at a takeover. The intervention of the US was as clear as daylight. Then she laughed it off at a later press conference and blamed Russia for taping her!!! They know no shame. the arrogance of this US Empire is incredible.

As we said in the first article we wrote, the Crimea and large sections of Ukraine will have to break apart from this US fascist led Ukraine. From there they will have to defend themselves from Genocide. This is already being done and we on 4international back these fighters totally and unconditionally.

This issue is being obscured and distorted totally by the now completely “outed” (by us) Imperialist in Jewish clothes Ted Belman of Israpundit.

The proven Fascist on that site one Yamit82 has weighed in and completely obscures the threat against Russia.

This Fascist on Belman´s site Israpundit must be answered by us the true Trotskyists in the world.

Of course Jews should get out of Ukraine urgently. But this is not just an Antisemitic coup, this is a fascist coup, and is directed against Russia.

Why would Belman obscure the threat against Russia? The reason is that Belman hates Russia.

Why Russia? because as we said Russia (although led by Bureaucrats) is still in essence something created by the Russian Revolution of 1917

This Fascist on Belman´s site hides that.

So does Anne Applebaum hired today by the BBC to spew forth her hatred of Communism

This goes hand in hand with the resurrection of communist hatred, al la Mein Kamph, as is shown in the recent writings of the “McCarthy in skirts” Diana West, supported by the communist hating Gates of Vienna

Meanwhile Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are still silent.

There are two major threats here in this situation. Threat one is against Jews, and Jews must get out. Threat two is against Russia and inside this threat lies the real threat of Nuclear War in the world directed against Russia. Note carefully, no threat at all against Iran, but against Russia. To follow this we must work to build this site

THE US AND EU AIM IS TO REPLACE UKRAINIAN ELECTED GOVERNMENT WITH FASCIST STATE

IT IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL FOR PUTIN AND YANUKOVYCH TO HOLD FIRM

 

The capitalist system is in deep crisis, getting worse, and is gearing towards Fascist forms of rule in every country int he world

Although Putin and Yanukovych are in political terms bureaucratic, afraid of the mass movement, they still have a connection however distorted that connection is to the socialist revolution of 1917

Just as Stalin set out to murder Trotsky and all opposition which was rooted in the 1917 socialist revolution, so from at least Reagan on the whole aim of the US and now the EU is to destroy every trace of the socialist revolution of 1917.

This also lay behind the war on the Serbs by NATO, by the UN, by the US and EU

It also in a different way, but definitely connected, lies behind Antisemitism and the present war of the US and EU against Israel.

Both are connected. The criminal is the capitalist system overall, and we emphasise again the capitalist system plunging into crisis.

There is a close connection between the US and EU which supports the Hamas and Fatah, and the same US and EU in support of the “Fatherland” bunch of Fascist hoodlums in Kiev, Ukraine

The “Fatherland” has its roots in the Holocaust of the Jews in the Ukraine. The Fatah and Hamas were founded by the Nazi Palestinian Arab Hajj Amin el Husseini, close relative of Arafat, and el Husseini was at least the equal of Eichmann in the Holocaust.

Even further back, one step back from the Nazi Holocaust, the “Fatherland” has its real roots in the “Whites”, that is those Antisemites who Trotsky was fighting against (and defeating) in the Russian Civil War years following 1918

It was actually the defeat of these “Whites” in that great struggle from 1918 to 1921 which prevented the Whites winning control of the Russian state, thus triggering the “Holocaust” right there and then

Once again Yanukovych and Putin must stand firm. 4international and myself, Felix Quigley, stand totally behind them in opposition to Obama, Cameron and Hague

see www.facebook.com/felix.quigley

Please help us to campaign on these issues

 

BENNETT AND LIKUD MUST FORCE A NEW ELECTION TO DESTROY OBAMA/KERRY

Everything depends on Jews in Israel bringing down the Netanyahu Coalition and the creation of a new salvation Government which will oppose Obama and his Kerry interference in the affairs of the Jews.

 

John Kerry official Secretary of State portrait.jpg

 

Two people or two sets of people must now act decisively.

 

They are:

 

  1. Likud MPs who must expel Netanyahu from their party and who must call for new elections on the basis of that expulsion by carrying a patriotic Jewish message in the form of programme to the whole Jewish people, not just in the settlements but in all of Israel and even into the Diaspora
  2. MK Bennett who must withdraw or be forced to withdraw from the Coalition thus bringing down Netanyahu

 

There are also religious parties but they rarely act with independence. They would follow these two major blocs though

 

This is really a key moment in time. Very often history is concentrated on the actions of small numbers of people.

 

I am a Marxist and a Trotskyist and thus I spend much time researching what happened in October 1917. Leon Trotsky wrote about this and people like Swain/Thatcher/Service have zeroed in to try to falsify this very issue. Trotsky maintained that without the individual Lenin there would have been no revolution because lenin turned the Bolshevik Party around from April onwards. Also he thought that he Trotsky could never have done this. He also speculated that without himself Lenin may not have actually succeeded. Thus without individuals in history acting the moments of time are often lost forever.

 

Okay Jews at least not all think too much about 1917! But they can think about 2005!

 

Then there was a clear window of opportunity. Sharon was part of Likud. Sharon held a referendum in the party about Gaza. The Likud opposed Sharon’s plans for withdrawal. Sharon then having called the referendum arrogantly disregraded its democratic decisión.

 

THAT was the decisive moment and it was a only a moment

 

All such events are always pressed into one single moment in time. That was the time for big advance in Israel. Likud had to expel Sharon at that very time. They missed that time.

 

Having missed that time then they were on the back foot. Such leaders as in Likud are not trained to take such action in a certain time, always times of stress. Will Bennett?

 

That is what I mean by leadership and that is why my posts on sites like Israpundit and Jihadwatch are so often destroyed. To get such a leadership leads us into a new situation, a new set of life experiences that certain people just will not go into.

 

If Bennett does not withdraw NOW at this very time…

 

If Likud does not expel Netanyahu…

 

If those things do not actually and really happen then there will be consequences and I think they will be severe (when I look on Syria)

 

Just remember the US Empire cannot accept Independent Jews on this earth.

 

We are on a knife edge. Actually things are so full of possibility for Jews, for Israel, and for all of us who are tired of the old order of the killing of our dear animals and the killing of the human spirit in so many ways, unemployment among youth being the most deadly.

 

If Likud and Bennett act independently and decisively this will take the ground from beneath both Obama and Kerry. The EU will also be floored. People in Ukraine may look up. Certainly the people of America will look up and will adore the Jews of Israel as never before. DO IT!

OBAMA IS TELLING BARE FACED LIES TO THE ISRAELIS OVER IRAN BOMB

The lies of Obama over Iran are now legendary. This President of the US is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. There can be no other logical explanation.

 

 

Aaron Klein recent article must be read by all

 

 

OBAMA LIES TO ISRAELIS ON IRAN NUKE DEAL. Falsely claims agreement nixes Tehran’s uranium enrichment

Posted on December 9, 2013 at 2:23 AM EST

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By Aaron Klein

In an address broadcast live to Israel Sunday, President Obama falsely claimed the West’s nuclear deal with Tehran takes Iran’s uranium enrichment down to zero from its current 20 percent.

Obama made the false claim twice even though the text of the deal caps Iran’s uranium enrichment at 5 percent, a figure that could constantly leave the country two months away from the technical ability to build a nuke.

Obama was hosted for a forty-minute question-and-answer session at the annual Saban Forum at the Brookings Institute in Washington, D.C. The session was broadcast live on Israel’s Channel 2, the country’s largest television station.

Regarding the nuclear deal, Obama stated: “We have not only made sure that in Fordor and Natanz that they have to stop adding additional centrifuges, we’ve also said that they’ve got to roll back their 20 percent advanced enrichment.  So we’re … ”

Host Chaim Saban interrupted and asked, “To how much?”

Saban was asking about the percentage Iran would be required to roll back its enrichment.

“Down to zero,” Obama stated. “So you remember when Prime Minister Netanyahu made his presentation before the United Nations last year?”

“The cartoon with the red line?” asked Saban.

Continued Obama: “The picture of a bomb – he was referring to 20 percent enrichment, which the concern was if you get too much of that, you now have sufficient capacity to go ahead and create a nuclear weapon. We’re taking that down to zero.”

In actuality, the six-month renewable interim deal requires Iran to cap its uranium enrichment at 5 percent. Iranian diplomats have repeatedly stated they will not give up the right to enrich uranium in any final deal.

Later on in his speech, Obama contradicted himself and conceded Iran would likely retain an enrichment capability in a final deal.

He said: “We can envision an end state that gives us an assurance that even if they have some modest enrichment capability, it is so constrained and the inspections are so intrusive that they, as a practical matter, do not have breakout capacity.

“Theoretically they might still have some [breakout capacity]. But frankly, theoretically, they will always have some because, as I said, the technology here is available to any good physics student.”

In an e-mail to KleinOnline, Olli Heinonen, the former International Atomic Energy Agency inspector, explained how the 5 percent enrichment leaves Tehran perpetually just two months away from enriching enough uranium to assemble one nuclear weapon.

“Let us look at the current the facts on the ground. With Iran’s inventory of 20 percent enriched uranium, it would take about two weeks using 6000 IR-1 centrifuges, operating in tandem cascades, to produce enough weapons grade material for one nuclear device. If Iran uses three to five percent enriched uranium as feed material at all its currently installed 18,000 IR-1 centrifuges at Natanz and Fordow, the same result would be achieved in two months.

“The current agreement retains Iran’s fleet of more than 18000 IR-1 centrifuges. Operational restrictions are placed that allow 10,000 centrifuges to continue to enrich at up to 5 percent at any given point of time. These measures, together with a cessation of 20 percent enriched uranium production and conversion of the 20 percent-level stockpiles to oxides, extend the current breakout times to about two months.”

Meanwhile, in the session Sunday, Obama claimed the deal only opens the Iranian economy to a maximum of $7 billion in sanctions relief.

Stated Obama: “What we’ve done is we’ve turned the spigot slightly and we’ve said, here’s maximum $7 billion out of the over $100 billion of revenue of theirs that is frozen as a consequence of our sanctions, to give us the time and the space to test whether they can move in a direction, a comprehensive, permanent agreement that would give us all assurances that they’re not producing nuclear weapons.”

However, KleinOnline reported under the interim deal Tehran’s economy could be flooded with untold billions in sanctions relief and other gains, far more than the widely reported amount of $6 to $7 billion.

A careful reading of the agreement, posted on the EU’s website, finds numerous open-ended statements about sanctions relief.

If Iran keeps its side of the bargain, the deal allows an increase in European Union “authorisation thresholds for transactions for non-sanctioned trade to an agreed amount.” No amount for the thresholds are provided in the text of the deal.

The agreement states the U.S. and EU will “enable the repatriation of an agreed amount of revenue held abroad.” No specific amount is delineated in the deal.

In one clause that could potentially free untold billions, the deal establishes a “financial channel to facilitate humanitarian trade for Iran’s domestic needs using Iranian oil revenues held abroad.” No cap is provided for the amount of revenue that could be made available.

An open-ended footnote states the “humanitarian” trade financial channel “would involve specified foreign banks and non-designated Iranian banks to be defined when establishing the channel.”

More sanctions relief spelled out in the text of the deal includes a Western agreement to:

  • Pause efforts to further reduce Iran’s crude oil sales, enabling Iran’s current customers to purchase their current average amounts of crude oil. For such oil sales, it suspends the EU and U.S. sanctions on associated insurance and transportation services.
  • Suspend U.S. and EU sanctions on Iran’s petrochemical exports, as well as sanctions on associated services, gold and precious metals.
  • Suspend U.S. sanctions on Iran’s auto industry, as well as sanctions on associated services.
  • License the supply and installation in Iran of spare parts for safety of flight for Iranian civil aviation and associated services.
  • License safety related inspections and repairs in Iran as well as associated services.
  • Not impose new nuclear-related U.N. Security Council sanctions.
  • Not impose new EU nuclear-related sanctions.
  • In the case of the U.S. administration, acting consistently with the respective roles of the president and the Congress, refrain from imposing new nuclear-related sanctions.

- See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2013/12/09/obama-lies-to-israelis-on-iran-nuke-deal-falsely-claims-agreement-nixes-tehrans-uranium-enrichment/#sthash.XTbbjcGS.dpuf

THE DEAL WITH IRAN WILL CAUSE NUCLEAR WAR AND THE DEATH OF MILLIONS

ayatullah khamenei

ayatullah khamenei (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Last night in the small hours of the morning the BBC interrupted its broadcasts with reports that a deal was signed with Nuclear Iran.

The BBC has not been reporting anything about this issue in recent days and weeks. Suddenly it does report it. Why the change?

 

The reason is that the BBC is part of a real conspiracy. The BBC wants a deal with Iran, a deal above all else, even if that deal is the same as the deal that Chamberlain made in 1938 with Hitler.

 

Why does the BBC act in this way? It acts like this because the BBC is pro-Iran and pro-Islam.

 

Thus we must ask a further question: Why is the BBC pro-Islam? The reason for this is that the BBC fears the breaking up of capitalism and a potential socialist revolution. The BBC thus has as its allies Fascist Islam.

 

Once again the BBC allies itself with Iran because the BBC is afraid of the socialist revolution in Britain.

 

Often in life to get at the REAL truth you have to focus on the REAL reason. The most important thing about Europe today is that Europe cannot solve the unemployment issue, and even as billions are being made on stocks and shares, the majority of people are becoming impoverished by the crisis.

 

Israel today faces a major crisis. Their people from now on are in more and more danger…that is for sure.

 

Just a few days ago the Iran negotiators on this deal uttered the most foul language it is posible to utter against Israel, meaning against Jews.

 

France did object, but Obama and Cameron did not utter a Word in opposition to this deep Iranian Antisemitism.

 

Iran it is who have organized Holocaust Denial Conferences.

 

Obama and Cameron will say it is a limited deal. That is a lie. The sanctions are breached and the US is paying BILLIONS to the Iranian Fascists and Antisemites. The capitalists of the whole world will now rush in with mouths slathering in pursuit of profit. Thus the sanctions against Iran are over.

 

There are 19,000 centriguges in Iran. Not one is dismantled. All can work to enrich uranium. The Plutonium Plant will be finished in months ready to go.

 

This will OBVIOUSLY give new ímpetus to Iran and its Nuclear Bombs.

 

They put their house in order. They tighten their dictatorship over the Iranian youth.

 

Ready to go. It is written that they have enough material for 7 nuclear bombs at this momento…the time factor is said to be 26 days.

 

And the centriguges are always on ready. Now Obama offers them the chance to be all greased up ready to go.

 

A very interesting comment appeared by a person called “Chad” on the really excellent Pamela Geller Blog this morning and 4international replied thus:

 

START 4INTERNATIONAL COMMENT ON ATLAS SHRUGS

 

I agree very much with Chad above in bringing focus for this situation onto the Jewish leadership as a whole, which at every level is deficient to lead the Jews in this period. All Jewish bloggers in positions of leadership and all Gentile pro Jewish bloggers like mself must make this fact central.

It is one thing totally to condemn what has happened as do all of the Jewish leaders like Bennett and even Lapid today, and every single one of them, including Danon, but this condemnation looks totally different when it is placed against their activity firstly since the election and secondly all the way back since the state of Israel was founded.

This way of operating of this overall Jewish leadership included Dayan, the prominent General in the 67 war, who travelled down to the historical Temple Mount, to hand over that Temple Mount to the descenedents of Hajj Amin el Husseini, personally.

Look at it this way. The European capitalist leaders do what the European capitalist leaders have to do. That is they  HAVE TO unite with Iran and with the whole of the Arab bourgeoisie, as part of Islam.

Why do I say this and why do I insist that the European leaders HAVE TO unite with the Fascist (openly so) Arab and Islamic bourgeoisie? There are many reasons for me saying this.

As time is short I cannot list every reason. Please however and remember this is only one small example consider this.

This past week the Spanish pro-Franco PP (Popular Party which took over after Franco died) passed a law for Spain which will mean that any protester on any Street opposing the brutal Spanish oolice, and who INSULTS any Spanish police person, cn be fined something like 100,000 euros.

I will remind readers that there is about 70 per cent unemployment among the Young people of Spain. People exist in a great number of Spanish homes on the pensions of Grandmother and Grandfather.

OK! That is just one small example. But THAT is why the European bougeoisie has created an Alliance with Iran.

This could well mean that in the not too distant future a Nuclear Suitcase Bomb could explode in say Madrid, or say London, or say New York, OR SAY ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET.

But if you are a capitalist class as in any of these countries then that is not really a very big matter at all, if that is placed against putting down social revolution.

There are those on many sites, such as on Atlas Shrugs, who appear to say the right things about Islam. But they either miss, or more likely do not want to know, what is the real nature of the Alliance between Iran and the West.

Time will tell who is really telling the truth in days ahead.

IT WAS NOT ASSAD. IT WAS THE ISLAMIST SCUM WHO GASSED THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

According to the Zionist pro-Israeli writer based in the US Ken Timmerman in the Daily Worker it was a carefully planned plot that is now coming undone as US plans a strike then scrambles to provide the evidence. Very similar to Srebrenica and Racak in Yugoslavia that led to months of bombing. That led to extension of NATO power into the Balkans. One of the vehicles was http://www.debka.com and I personally on 4international disputed their story and pointed to http://www.debka.com having become an organ or conduit for US Intelligence.

This is the report by Timmerman who does not identify http://www.debka.com but I did over a week ago.

(This is combined with many articles in http://www.debka.com which are asserting that Assad used chemical weapons. Debka has become a website of liars which publishes articles which are based on information which it does not ever source
http://4international.me/2013/08/26/question-to-all-jew…yria/)

This report is of great moment for Irish people given the valuable research that Irish militia people were involved also with the Rebels, really the Muslim Brotherhood, which chimes in with the training of the Libyan Jihadist Mahdi Al-Harati on Irish soil and his financing by the CIA, who is likely involved as we speak in Syria with these Irish Militia Jihadist Scum and actual total traitors to the Irish Nation.

Fools will say “Oh but they wouldn’t kill their own people”. Well they did. The Islamist side around Izetbegovic drove shells into their own people in the famous Market Bombings in Bosnia. This was proved by no less than a UN Inquiry but that Inquiry was totally buried by the Media. The rocket shell trajectory was clearly from Islamist not Serb lines. The carnage (of poor Muslims) was horrible. The Media were on standby to report as the work of the evil Milosevic…replace Milosevic with Assad and you get the method. It was in fact of the Islamist Izetbegovic, it is not very smart and is being repeated time and again. The key factor is of course a compliant Media. People like the Dublin born Maggie O’Kane made their reputation and promotion by such reporting.

 

 

VITAL REPORT..IT WAS CLEARLY FALSE FLAG BY MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

 

By Ken Timmerman, THE DAILY CALLER

The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.

According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.

The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus.

The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV  on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable  in Washington, DC.

According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.

However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.

The New York Times reported this morning  that the White House is now backing off its claims to have a “smoking gun that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to the attack.”

The new argument is more deductive: since the Assad regime has chemical weapons and chemical weapons were used in Mouadhamiya, therefore the Syrian regime must have been the ones to use them.

But even that line of reasoning falls down when confronted with evidence known to the U.S. intelligence community, and presumably, to Congress.

An Egyptian intelligence report describes a meeting in Turkey between military intelligence officials from Turkey and Qatar and Syrian rebels. One of the participants states, “there will be a game changing event on August 21st” that will “bring the U.S. into a bombing campaign” against the Syrian regime.

The chemical weapons strike on Moudhamiya, an area under rebel control, took place on August 21. “Egyptian military intelligence insists it was a combined Turkish/Qatar/rebel false flag operation,” said a source familiar with the report.

The White House has gone to great lengths to shut down any independent investigation of the facts.

A UN inspection team was on the ground in Damascus on August 21 when the Moudhamiya attack occurred, where they were awaiting authorization from the Syrian government to visit sites of earlier alleged chemical weapons attacks.

Once word of Moudhamiya broke and the inspectors announced they planned to refocus their investigation on the fresh attack rather than the earlier ones, the White House was telling the UN to back off from gathering the facts.

 

 

 

THE THREAT TO ISRAEL FROM A NUCLEAR IRAN GROWS THANKS TO OBAMA

IT IS TOO CLEAR

Israel and the Jews of Israel are being threatened as never before, comparable only to Hitler and the Holocaust. You will remember that all of the nations of the world especially Britain and America refused to allow Jewish emigration to escape the Holocaust. It is very like that today. The Jews have set up their Homeland in Israel but they are being isolated AGAIN by Obama and Cameron. This new threat of new Holocaust takes the form of Obama BACKING a Nuclear Armed Iran, which also means a Nuclear backed Muslim Brotherhood!

THE LEFT

Understand what the left is. It is NOT Trotskyist. It is a ragbag and is more influenced by Stalinist and Revisionist thoughts.

The left is bitterly the enemy of Israel, that is ISRAEL THE Jewish HOMELAND

Why would the left be opposed to the Jewish Homeland? Because the left has become totally Antisemitic. This was led by the Moscow Stalinists following the 1967 war, which was a defensive war by the Jews of Israel, to defend their country from Egypt’s Nasser and other Arab countries which were attacking…HISTORY SPEAKS FOLKS…

BUT…

If the left is antisemitic what then?
The answer to this is that this left which is antisemitic is not Trotskyist, that means not based on the Lenin and Trotsky principles of socialist revolution.

CONCLUSION FROM THE PRESENT LEFT BEING ANTISEMITIC

1. This antisemitic left is no use to workers and it is no use to Jews in such danger as we describe
2. A new alternative must be built
3. That alternative is already well underway
4. How do we know? We know this because of all the political groups and individuals in the world only http://www.4international.me has called it correctly on the Jihadist cum Imperialist war on Yugoslavia, and on the Muslim Brotherhood drive to Fascism inside the Arab Spring which was obviously directed by Imperialism

WHERE PAMELA GELLER AND ROBERT SPENCER GO WRONG

They go wrong and seriously because they are STILL placing their faith in a capitalist system which is in its death agony. What part of “death agony” pamela and Robert do you not understand?

It was Leon Trotsky who described this stage of the capitalist system as being the “death agony of capitalism”

Please tell me this then the two of you and I narrow the focus to make it understandable: Why is the unemployment among young people in Spain about 60 per cent, not getting better but growing? Why are animals such as the tiger and lion being wiped out in the world? What is this system which cannot guarantee the existence of such species?

V ery simple questions Geller and Spencer please answer and urgently.

WHERE THE PRESENT ISRAELI RULING ELITE, LIKE NETANYAHU, GO SO SERIOUSLY WRONG

Like Geller and Spencer they place their trust in the same world capitalist system. Hell Netanyahu even places his trust in Obama who is coming to Israel in a week or so to ram home upon the Israelis this Nuclear Iran and this Nuclear Power which the Muslim Brotherhood will have.

They lead the Jews of the world in supporting and defending capitalism

netanyahu often comes under attack from the left and in that case we defend Netanyahu from the left. An example of this is a Jewish man called Barrie Nathan on the talk radio europe station and this Jewish man Nathan is always attacking Netanyahu because Nathan would prefer Livni or somebody.

No barrie Nathan the fault is not with the Jews the fault is with the “Palis” and the left who want to have Israel obliterated and Jews homeless which adds up to Genocide of the Jews.

We will defend all Jews under attack from Antisemitism. Barrie Nathan why do you not do sol and you call yourself a Jew. What gives Barrie Nathan?

BUT MOST OF ALL THE FIGHT IS PRIMARILY AGAINST THE STALINIST AND REVISIONIST LEFT

This means in concrete terms the building of 4international.meI

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AHMADINEJAD SAYS IRAN IS NOW NUCLEAR AND HE SEEKS AN ALLIANCE WITH OBAMA/HAGEL

SPEAKING AT THE OIC YESTERDAY AHMADINEJAD SHOWS TO ALL JEWS, ESPECIALLY JEWS IN ISRAEL, AND TO ALL FREEDOM LOVERS, JUST HOW DANGEROUS IS THIS Islamist IRAN. THE ANTISEMITIC LEFTISTS ARE SILENT AS THEY SUPPORT A NUCLEAR IRAN AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL, THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO BUILD 4INTERNATIONAL.

The claims were made by Ahmadinejad at the centre of the Jihad operation which is the OIC. Ahmadinejad KNOWS he is in an alliance with Obama,the Democratic Party and a good section of the Republicans as well, all of Europe (EVERY European Government) and backed up by the Antisemitic Left (Which includes all Labour Parties of Europe (an example being PSOE in Spain) and including Leftist Jewish Liars living in Israel such as Jeff Halpin.

This is a REAL alliance and it is directed against Jews and Israel.

The centre of this alliance are the constant calls for a Palestinian Arab state which will be the focus of armed attack on Israel. Ask who led the Palestinian Arabs from 1920 to 1950 aprox. and the answer is Hajj Amin el Husseini who with Hitler masterminded The Holocaust, and then the plan for the continuation of the Holocust was carried on by the close relative of Husseini (they share the same name) Yasser Arafat. Abbas ALSO is a Holocaust Denier. Hamas has in its Charter completely Nazi Genocidal calls for death to all Jews.

The centre of this alliance with Ahmadinejad are lies and the lies were showed clearly yesterday when the Minister in charge of “Justice” in Spain Gallardon said that Jews who could prove they were related to the Jews expelled by the Catholic Monarchs in 1492 could become citizens (of Spain). What a joke! What an insult! So Spain leads Europe in the Alliance with Ahmadinejad and yet insults Jews in this way. Are the Spanish playing this practical joke on Jews deliberately and consciously?

Also pay attention to Ahmadinejad’s reference to Assad and Syria. As we always warned as part of this alliance with Obama Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs will ditch Assad, the Alawites and Christians who support Assad.

(start statement from Ahmadinejad here)

Ahmadinejad is currently in Cairo at the OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation) summit with Hamas-CAIR’s Nihad Awad and the heads of 56 Muslim states and the Palestinian terror org.

Special Dispatch No. 5175: Iranian President Ahmadinejad In Interview With Editor Of Egyptian Daily ‘Al-Ahram’: Iran Has Become A Nuclear State MEMRI

Ahead of his historic visit to Cairo (February 5-6, 2013) to attend an Organization of the Islamic Conference summit, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave an interview to ‘Abd Al-Nasser Salama, editor of the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram. In the interview, which was conducted in Tehran, Ahmadinejad reiterated the positions of the Iranian regime on various issues, and stressed that Iran had become a nuclear state despite Western pressures aimed at stopping it from doing so. He also spoke about Iran-Egypt relations, saying that they were gradually developing. He stressed that cooperation between the two countries could be expanded in many areas, and that rapprochement between them would lead to a solution to the Palestinian problem and to other complex problems in the region. He emphasized that Iran had no intention of attacking “the Zionist entity,” and clarified that his country had high defense capabilities.

On the subject of Syria, Ahmadinejad said that he was very sorry about what was happening there, and expressed his opposition to foreign intervention. He said that the best solution for Syria would not be the establishment of a sectarian government, but rather a solution based on mutual understanding among the Syrian people. He called on all countries in the region to unite into an economic and political power in the international arena, and noted that within a few years, the balance of power in the world would shift and the U.S. would lose its hegemonic status and concentrate on its domestic affairs.

USING THE MEDIA AND FIGURES LIKE MADONNA AND JOLIE OBAMA WILL RULE WITHOUT CONGRESS (BONAPARTISM)

 

Now the inquest starts.

 

The issue in America is not whether it is republican or democrat, the issue is the world economic crisis in the capitalist system (a period of severe world-wide contraction following the post 45 boom) but that neither parties have an answer to this crisis of the capitalist system.

 

Obama is the most dangerous. We saw his role in that he went to war against Muammar Gadhafi by completely sidestepping Congress, which is AGAINST THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION.

 

On the very night of his election Obama was already proceeding to rule with the same strategy, side-stepping Congress. The whole line of the Media and especially the BBC was why are these horrible Republicans of Congress such horrible people and such unreasonable horrible people.

 

Obama with nothing to lose in his last 4 years is going to rule in this way. It is called Bonapartism and if people do not know what that means they should find out because it is the ante-chamber to Fascism.

 

Note well. It is not Fascism. It is the preceding period.

 

In short the choice is Fascism or Socialism, Fascist Revolution or Socialist Revolution.

 

The American situation is so different to the European because the American Revolution still lives in the principles of the Republican Party.

 

But Romney did not articulate that nor could he.

 

The American Republican elite have sold out on the principles of the Great American Constitution which flow from out of the Great American (Bourgeois) revolution. It was very clear that they had sold out when Michelle Bachmann was isolated by this Republican Elite during the campaign because she opposed the support for Hamas in America.

 

Romney and the Elite not once referred to Obama going to war on Muammar Gadhafi thus side-stepping the Constitution, which states clearly that a President of America must get consent of Congress. Stephens in Benghazi was transferring guns to the Muslim Brotherhood fighting Assad…Note no Congress again! Romney dropped that in Debate 3 following the intervention of Crowley in Debate 2.

 

This was a step on from Clinton in Yugoslavia. There Clinton created the false red flag operations of Racak and Srebrenica, to frame the Serbs, to create the alliance with the Jihad (Izetbegovic), and to rush Congress behind the war on the Serbs (6 months bombing of Serbia)

 

But Obama moves again. Obama had moved from Clintobn. No red flag needed. He just dismisses Congress, dismisses the Constitution.

 

Obama rules without Congress. In a real way Obama rules with Madonna, Pitt and Jolie.

 

Obama is above the Constitution. He parades his gawky wife and his gawky children and makes his personal life the issue. The feminist traitors to Feminism lap it up.

 

But Obama is not Hitler. The role of Obama is to open the door to a Hitler American leader.

 

It will emerge out of the economic crisis. There will be many forces at play. There will certainly be what is not the left, that is those like www.wsws.org who support Obama the Islamist, and who create Antisemitism in everything they do.

 

And the future Fascism will have as a central component Antisemitism and Anticommunism, because the role of Fascism is to end all opposition, and to make the capitalist crisis survivable for capital. The Republican Party is filled with Anticommunism so Fascism in America will come from there too I am sorry to have to say.

 

The situation is far more complicated and even more serious than Daniel Greenfieldpresents it.

 

the analysis which follows by Greenfield is typically shallow. Greenfield like so many of these reject Leon Trotsky and his method of analysis of capitalism. Greenfield ignores the historical crisis in capitalism. Greenfield does not understand the meaning of the phenomenon of Bonapartism and he is utterly opposed to the Trotskyist analysis of Fascism, just as Jabotinsky also was.

 

In that way Greenfield, and people like Belman on Israpundit whom we mentioned yesterday, actually disarm the Jews, and disarm Israel, in the face of Fascism in the United States. That after all is the essence of the alliance of Obama with the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

(ANALYSIS FOLLOWS)

 

Daniel Greenfield, FPM

In this election the Republican Party ran two wholly inoffensive blue state Republicans on a platform of jobs at a time when the economy was everyone’s chief concern and the incumbent had absolutely failed to fix the economy. And they lost.

The Monday — or Wednesday — morning quarterbacks will have a fine time debating what Mitt Romney should have done differently. The red Republicans will say that he should have been more aggressive and should have hit Obama on Benghazi. The blue Republicans will blame a lack of outreach to Latinos. Some will blame Sandy, others will blame Christie and many will point to voter fraud. And they will all have a point, but the makings of this defeat did not happen in the last two weeks; they happened in the last two years.

Mitt Romney won the primaries because he was electable. But, as it turned out, he really wasn’t electable after all. Not when the chief criteria of electability is having no opinion, no point of view and no reason to run for office except to win. Not when the chief criteria of being a Republican presidential nominee is being able to convince people that you’re hardly a Republican at all.

Romney was a star political athlete who had an excellent training regimen and coaching staff. But to win elections, you have to change people’s minds. It’s not enough to try hard or to fight hard; you have to fight for something besides the chance to round the bases. You have to wake people up to a cause.

The Republican comeback did not begin with innocuous candidates; it began with angry protesters in costumes and Gadsden flags marching outside ObamaCare town halls. The 2010 midterm election triumphs were not the work of a timorous establishment, but of a vigorous grassroots opposition. And once the Tea Party movement started the fire, the Republican establishment acted like the Tea Party had sabotaged their comeback and cut the ties with their own grassroots movement. Separated, the Republican grassroots and the Republican Party both withered on the vine.

The stunning 2010 midterm election victories happened because a conservative opposition loudly and vociferously convinced a majority of Americans that ObamaCare would be harmful to them. And then that fantastic engine of change was packed away and replaced with political consultants who were all focused on seizing the center and offending as few people as possible. But you don’t win political battles by being inoffensive. And you don’t win elections by avoiding conflict.

Is it any wonder that the 2012 election played out the way it did?

The Democrats in the Bush years were about as unlikable a party as could ever be conceived of. They were hostile, hateful and obstructionist. They spewed conspiracy theories at the drop of a hat and behaved in a way that would have convinced any reasonable person not to entrust them with a lawnmower, let alone political power. And not only were they rewarded for that by winning Congress, but they also went on to win the White House.

Why? Because dissatisfied people gravitate to an opposition. They don’t gravitate to a loyal opposition. They aren’t inspired by mild-mannered rhetoric, but by those who appear to channel their anger.

When the Republican Party sold out the Tea Party, it sold out its soul, and the only driving energy that it had. And there was nothing to replace it with. The Republican Party stopped being the opposition and became a position that it was willing to reposition to get closer to the center. Mitt Romney embodied that willingness to say anything to win and it is exactly that willingness to say anything to win that the public distrusts.

The elevation of Mitt Romney was the triumph of inoffensiveness. Romney ran an aggressive campaign, but it was a mechanical exercise, a smooth assault by trained professionals paid to spin talking points in dangerous directions. But, what if the voters really wanted a certain amount of offensiveness?

What if they wanted someone who mirrored their anger at being out of work, at having to look at stacks of unpaid bills and at not knowing where their next paycheck was coming from? What if they wanted someone whose anger and distrust of the government echoed their own?

Romney very successfully made the case that he would be a more credible steward of the economy. It was enough to turn out a sizable portion of the electorate, but not enough of it. He tried to be Reagan confronting Carter, but what was remarkable about Reagan, is that he had moments of anger and passion; electric flashes of feeling that stirred his audience and made them believe that he understood their frustrations. That was the source of Reagan’s moral authority and it was entirely lacking in Romney. And without that anger, there is no compelling reason to vote for an opposition party.

The establishment had its chance with Mitt Romney. The former Massachusetts governor was everything that they could possibly want. Moderate, bipartisan and fairly liberal. With his business background, he could make a perfect case for being able to turn the economy around. They had their perfect candidate and their perfect storm and they blew it.

The Republican Party is not going to win elections by being inoffensive. It is not going to win elections by going so far to the center that it no longer stands for anything. It is not going to win elections by throwing away all the reasons that people might have to vote for it. It is not going to win elections by constantly trying to accommodate what it thinks independent voters want, instead of cultivating and growing its base, and using them as the nucleus for an opposition that will change the minds of those independent voters.

The Republican Party has tried playing Mr. Nice Guy. It may be time to get back to being an opposition movement. And the way to do that is by relearning the lessons of the Tea Party movement. The Democratic Party began winning when it embraced the left, instead of running away from it. If the Republican Party wants to win, then it has to embrace the right and learn to get angry again.

OBAMA WAS DEFINITELY LYING…STEPHENS WAS NOT MURDERED AS A RESULT OF THE FILM AT ALL

 

(THE ISSUE OF THE BENGHAZI SLAYING OF STEPHENS GROWS AND GROWS IN IMPORTANCE AND DEPTH)

The Obama Regime is really the same as a Plague of Lies. There has never been such a thing in America. It makes the Nixon regime saintly in its truthfulness in comparision.

 

In anything to do with Islam in the world today, especially in Egypt Libya and Tunisia, they lie lie lie!

 

The exposure of these lies which is happening every minute now raises a whole new insight into the lies which were told about Yugoslavia during the 1990s.

 

It also raises the issue of the trials in the Hague, in what we call the Hague kangaroo Court. It is ALL interconnected.

 

This is an immediate conditional response and it is a deep psychosis which is not just, of course, the Obama Government but lies deep within Christian and Western Society, at any rate a very large part of it (return to that thought later)

 

It was clear in Debate Number 2 that Obama was in lying mode when Romney came to the issuie of the Benghazi murder of the Amarican Ambassador Stephens.

 

Obama had prepared well for this and he knew that he had used the word “terrorist” or “terrosism” when he spoke in the White House Garden the day after the attack. That would be September 12. Keep dates in mind here. Time in this is vitally important.

 

It was a throwaway word like “we oppose all terrorism”.

 

Obama was NOT saying on that September 12 that the attack on Stephens was a terrorist attack. He was saying the very opposite.

 

He and his whole Government were saying that it was a NATURAL and UNDERSTANDABLE bit of anger expressed by poor oppressed Muslim Victims against the making of a “quite horrible and disgusting film” made by who knows, and the conspiracists were claiming made by “Zionists”.

 

Thus Antisemitism follows in the slime laid down by this President Obama.

 

The very best exposure of these lies came yesterday in www.breitbart.com

 

This exposure concerns an e-mail that was sent by the STATE DEPARTMENT 2 hours after the attack on the Benghazi began and which Obama would have been reading immediately then.

 

I repeat Obama knew 2 hours in that the attack was coming from Al Qaida, that there was no protest at all against the film outside the American Embassy. There was instead of a protest against a film an attack by extreme Muslim fanatics against America.

 

So it is very important and instructive for us all to understand then what the President of America did. We are coming to that…

 

(THE BREITBART ANALYSIS FOLLOWS)

23 Oct 2012

Just over two hours after the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began on Sep. 11, the White House Situation Room was notified that a militant group with connections to al Qaeda had claimed responsibility, undermining claims by the Obama administration and the media that a video was initially the suspected cause.

The new revelations come in the form of an email sent by the State Department Operations Center to the White House, the Pentagon, the FBI and unspecified elements of the intelligence community. The email was sent at 6:07 p.m. EDT, which was 12:07 a.m. Benghazi time. The attack in Benghazi had started just over two hours earlier, at 3:50 p.m. Washington time.

Reuters reports that the email message was headlined “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack.” It read, in part: “Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli.” One of the recipients listed on the email was the White House Situation Room.

A document produced by the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security on Sep. 12th, based on public media reports, mentions Ansar al-Sharia but says, “There has been no substantiated claim of responsibility for the attacks, though media reports suggest members of Ansar al-Sharia participated in the attack.” The document goes on to say that Ansar al-Sharia has an affiliation with al Qaeda.

The administration’s inability to substantiate the claim of responsibility might explain its reluctance to call the attack “terrorism” in the early days. It does not explain why the White House sent surrogates Jay Carney and UN Ambassdor Susan Rice out repeatedly to insist the attack was a spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video. 

On September 14th alone, White House Press secretary mentioned the video more than a dozen times. He was pointedly asked three times if he meant to connect the video to the Benghazi attack and said (the third time): “We have no evidence at this time to suggest otherwise, that there was a pre-planned or ulterior instigation behind that unrest.”

But the White House did have information, almost immediately, to suggest a militia aligned with al Qaeda might be responsible for the attack. The question is why that possibility was not raised at all while the other possibility, outrage over a video, was raised dozens of times that first week. 

Is it only a coincidence that the White House’s favored explanation is by far the less politically explosive of the two?

(END OF QUOTE)

So what the writer on www.breitbart.com (John Sexton) HAMMERS HOME is that Obama lied, lied and lied again for weeks after the murder of Stephens.

Days later the bodies of Stephens and his associates came back to America and Obama and his wife met the caskets. They wore their solemn but lying faces because the lie machine was even then in full operation.

That is the level of the hypocrisy of that particular “hope for the poor oppressed black people”v president. As he met the casket of Stephens Obama did not even offer Stephens the dignity of having the truth told about how he died. Now that is low. (1)

The key paragraph in the above is the reportage on what happened in the Press Office of the White House on the 14th, that is just 3 days after the murders.

I repeat it here:

On September 14th alone, White House Press secretary mentioned the video more than a dozen times. He was pointedly asked three times if he meant to connect the video to the Benghazi attack and said (the third time): “We have no evidence at this time to suggest otherwise, that there was a pre-planned or ulterior instigation behind that unrest.”

The American Media as a whole cover for Obama. But the actual questioning of the Press Secretary is thorough, because America is deeply ivolved with The First Amendment.

The reporters at that Press Conference fairly tied down the liar who is Obama’s voice:

“No evidence to suggest”

They had the evidence in the White House in the form of the email within a couple of hours. The White House of Obama then went into a trailer load of lying garbage which had its lowest point in the staged Crowley/Obama theatre against Romney in debate Number 2, where Obama in avoiding Romney’s query had Obama saying to Crowley “let’s see the transcript, and Crowley had it under her desk!!!”

Now that is a Chicago set-up.

The city of Al Capone. The city of Obama.

The latest coming to light shows that the CBS had Obama admitting on the day after that there was Al qaida involved in the killing of Stephens. But they edited that out.

The very latest from www.debka.com is raising the reality that Stephens in Benghazi was not so much running an Embassy as running a depot for the supply of arms to the rebels in Syria. And if Stephens was doing that then he was not doing it off his own bat, he was only representing the Obama regime.

(1) The comments to the article from www.breitbart.com are vital. They show that the ordinary American is racing way ahead of the Media, but the only thing holding up this carcass in the White House IS the Media. Just as the Media hold up Abbas and hide the reality of Hamas, and just as the Media say nothing about Pollard, or also on a different theme that Julian Assange is kept a prisoner in a small room in London. This one is only one and not even the best

“Well stated. Even this article isn’t up front. FACT= There was a drone and they watched it in real time and that piece of s**t denied the help and went to bed!  Petreus knew. Why? I want an answer why we left our men to die. Maybe he would talk about the guns  you left there to be used against our people. He goes to bed…We are staring in the face of EVIL!!!!!!”……………Also there were suggestions that Obama turned off the truth because he went to Vegas where he had big money gathering operations for his campaign, not so far-fetched when you think that for Obama everything depends (can an EX president be impeached?) on re-election organization, in Ohio his team have THREE times as many offices opened as Romney, yet the lie is that Romney is the millionaire. Nobody has yet come to terms with this mass psychosis over Obama, which has similarities to the psychosis over the “Palestinians”, or Princess Di, or over Srebrenica which is a Lie. It has Hitlerian overtones.

IN THE MAJOR DEBATE BETWEEN OBAMA AND ROMNEY OBAMA WAS A LIAR OVER MURDER OF STEPHENS

What to make of the debate last night between Obama and Romney (The second of 3)?

There was a real difference between these two US capitalist politicians and the difference is that Obama was proven  by his exchange on the murder of Ambassador Stephens in Benghazi to be a total and practised liar.

As far as the economic crisis in capitalism is concerned neither had,  have or will have an answer. We clearly are heading into dictatorship country, the forms of which (fascist, police State, Army Rule) are not yet clear to anybody.

Let us look at a couple of responses to this important debate.

The anti-Marxist and anti-Troptskyist organization called www.wsws.org wrote a treacherous piece saying there were no differences between Romney and Obama, at all. You can apreciate that this covers up for the lies of Obama on Stephens, which was the key moment int he debate. The wsws writes:

“A basic purpose of the spectacle was to create the illusion of fundamental policy differences between the two candidates and their parties, when there are none. The political differences between the Democrats and Republicans reflect secondary tactical differences within the ruling oligarchy.”

http://wsws.org/articles/2012/oct2012/deba-o17.shtml

By ignoring the lies of Obama on Stephens the WSWS are covering for this total liar, when workers and youth of America need to know about these lies.

If www.wsws.org is a Trotskyist organization then I will eat my hat because in order to discover the nature of the lie of Obama and the way that Crowley the interviewer was working to try to save Obama’s ass in this election WE HAVE TO TURN TO www.breitbart.com, which is opposed to socialism, but unlike these fraudsters of www.wsws.org does care about the truth, in politics and in life in general.

And Breitbart tells us:

The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.

Romney correctly disputed that.

Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.

Here’s what Obama said that day:

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.

Context matters and the context here is that Obama connected this “act of terror” to … a mob action over a YouTube video — not a deliberate terrorist attack. Obama was using the term generically and it would be almost two weeks before he used it again.

Let’s not forget that Susan Rice said declaratively on the five Sunday shows four days later that it was NOT an act of terror.

And during those two weeks the Obama administration lied like a rug…The lowest and most dishonest part of Crowley’s disgraceful “moderation” was when she actually jumped into the debate to take Obama’s side when the issue of Benghazi came up. To cover for his and his administration’s lying for almost two weeks about the attack coming as the result of a spontaneous protest over a YouTube video, Obama attempted to use as cover the claim that he had called the attack a “terrorist attack” on that very first day during his Rose Garden statement.

Romney correctly disputed that.

Crowley, quite incorrectly, took Obama’s side and the crowd exploded.

 

(Article by John Nolte on http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/16/Crowley-Saves-Obama-with-false-fact-check)

 

SO WE HAVE CAUGHT OUT OBAMA LYING, AND I MEAN LYING BIG TIME.

To go over this again. the essence to remember is that the Obama team which included Susan Rice and Mrs Clinton as well as Obama, said that the murder of Stephens was the result of the film, that it grew out of a protest against the film.

That is what Romney was saying. Obama wanted to hide this record and in front of millions Crowley helped him to hide this.

The people in the hall swallowed this Obama lies.

But the political people, even people on pro-Obama blogs and other seasoned reporters etc. saw the lie and the inhustice immediately in the discussions afterwards.

Again www.breitbart.com tells the truth and the wsws tells us lies.

***UPDATE 4: Politico’s Dylan Byers: “After the debate, even Crowley seemed to acknowledge that she had erred.”

***UPDATE 3: Even Politico’s Mike Allen is questioning Crowley’s call.

***UPDATE 2: Even Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler says Crowley got it wrong: Obama “did not say terrorism.”

***UPDATE: After the debate, Anderson Cooper was the first member of the CNN post debate group to question whether or not Romney really got the Libya issue wrong. They then brought Crowley on and after all the damage she had done during the debate, she finally admitted that Romney was “right” but “picked the wrong word.”

 

I also listened today to a report by Stephen Ritson ont he Talk Radio Europe show. Stephen gave a good report but missed the significance of these lies by Obama and seems not tol have understood the terrible role of the Obama team in the murder of the American Ambassador Stephens, which itself grew out of the failure of Obama to defend the Coptic Film Maker without conditions.

 

I am writing to Ritson so that he can put this oversight right.

AMERICA HELPED THE JIHAD ISLAMISTS TO MURDER GADGAFI BUT NOW THE JIHAD MURDERS THEM

 

4INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNS THE MURDER OF THE AMERICAN AMBASSADOR IN LIBYA

 

BUT AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY OF OBAMA IS SUPPORTING THE JIHAD

 

 

LIBYA DECLARES WAR ON US: U.S. AMBASSADOR TO LIBYA, 3 OTHERS, KILLED IN ATTACK

Libya
Libya has declared war on America. U.S. ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens and three other embassy staff were killed in an attack in Benghazi. I warned readers of Obama’s pro-jihadist, anti-freedom foreign policy. I warned readers that Obama was helping to install a sharia government in Libya with jihadist ties. I warned readers countless times of the catastrophic consequences of Obama’s foreign policy.

Obama has “condemned the attack.”

Yesterday, on September 11, in another act of war in Egypt, Egyptians ripped down the American Flag at US embassy and raise black flag of jihad, State dept apologizes. Obama apologized. Yes, our State department apologized for the murderous outrage.

Libya act of war

U.S. AMBASSADOR TO LIBYA, 3 OTHERS, KILLED IN ATTACK

American Ambassador ‘Suffocated To Death’…
**WARNING** **GRAPHIC PHOTO** REBELS PARADE CORPSE…
Romney Calls Obama Response: ‘Disgraceful’…
Muslims Attack US Embassies…
Mobs with guns and rocket-propelled grenades…
FLASHBACK: Hillary Clinton boast on Gaddafi: ‘We came, we saw, he died’…

Dead

Usembassy

U.S. Ambassador Killed in Libya

AP Photo/Ben Curtis, File

In this Monday, April 11, 2011 file photo, U.S. envoy Chris Stevens, center, accompanied by British envoy Christopher Prentice, left, speaks to Council member for Misrata Dr. Suleiman Fortia, right, at the Tibesty Hotel where an African Union delegation was meeting with opposition leaders in Benghazi, Libya.

U.S. ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens and three other embassy staff were killed in an attack in Benghazi on Wednesday, the White House confirmed on Wednesday.

President Obama strongly condemned the attacks, while also calling on embassies across the globe to increase security.

“Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers,” Obama said. “They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.”

 

 

 

 ANALYSIS BY 4INTERNATIONAL

4international recognises that the murder of the American Ambassador and 3 others is a grievous murder on a par with the almost 3000 murders of 9-11. The BBC and BBC World Service has tried to minimise the real effect of this by pushing it into a secondary slot behind the Hillsborough Football Tragedy Report. But it cannot be so pushed into a secondary slot and here is why. It is to do with how George Bush went to war in Afghanistan and especially Iraq, and the very reactionary position of the so-called left towards those wars and those events.

 

Bush went to war for all the wrong reasons. He did not got to war against Islam, against the Jihad, but he went to war with a banner fluttering in the breeze “We are fighting this war because we the west believe that Islam is a Religion of Peace.

 

Despite what the left of the time thought and said (we mean of course what goes for the left today, in reality a pro-Islamist, pro-Jihadist, pro-Islamist left, a miserably existing dogma-spouting and pacific creature, quite opposed to the great revolutionary traditions of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky)

 

Underpinning all of this is the alestinian Arab Narrative which was promoted by Islam, directed against the Jews.

 

Thus the content of much of political discourse in the world today has an Antisemitic edge if not actual content.

 

Wars in human affairs are indeed often necessary, regardless of Gandhi.

 

No matter what Karen Armstrong, Tony Blair or George Bush think the real history of Islam is one of endless wars, conquest and unbelievable cruelty.

 

And this is what all actions by the Jihad against Israel, America, Modernism, actually show. This is the importance of the murder of the American Ambassador in Libya. It comes at a very particular time, in election, when the Media have spent 11 years trying to sell a story of a “peaceful Jihad” but will find it more difficult to keep the lid on this murder of their Ambassador.

 

Obama is essentially an actor, a Muslim President who is performing theatre for the US media. He now dons a sombre countenance, will wave the big stick, but everybody know that he helped these savages to torture Muammar Gadhafi to death, now those very same savages who he helped have done for his very own Ambassador. Ambasador is the closest connection to a people. Obama will pay for this but Romney is still an “Islam is Peace” Bushite.

 

In fact we now see that Bush went to his wars with the banner of Jihad fluttering ironically in front of his American and Blair’s British men.

 

That is what the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq was really about. That has set the pattern for the Arab Spring (Nightmare for the Jews of Israel and for all progressives, and minorities such as Christians, Copts, Kurds and Gays)

 

Those wars were wars not to fight against Jihad, but wars to promote Jihad.

 

That is the great change in American Foreign Affairs since the American Revolutionary Campaign against the Barbery Pirates. Under the inspiration of the Founding Fathers of the American Constitution the war against the Jihadist Pirates was a progressive war for real democratic principles and effects, against the Jihad. The wars of Bush and Blair in Afghanistan and in Iraq were wars to promote Jihad, with Jihadist principles engraved on the banner of the western fighters.

 

Yes they fought Jihadists at times, with courage and loss of life. But when they did they were fighting under the political and military programme of Jihad.

 

Whether Bush and Blair did this consciously is a separate question. I think not. Bush was a clever man in many respects but not given to self consciousness. Blair was also sharp and a good communicator, but despite appearances had all the obtuseness of a British Labour Leader, and mired in a sickly form of Evangelical Protestantism, a Protestantism fast becoming Catholicism due to the influence of his wife.

 

But definite forces inside the bowels of THEIR class and society did know exactly what they were doing, that they were indeed fighting wars to promote Jihad.

 

Indeed this was far from being the first time the “west” has went to war for Jihad. There was the case of Indonesia of the 60s where a million communist youth were liquidated in the Indonesian countryside by Jihadists. Then wihtin our recent memory there was Yugoslavia where the west went to war on behalf of the Jihad (Izetbegovic in Bosnia) and this time against Serbs who were Christians and Socialists.

 

Yet there is real difference between what took place in those wars (Indonesia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq) and what has happened in the world in the past 2 years of the Arab Spring (really Nightmare).

 

The difference can be summed up…the election to the Presidency in America of a Muslim Jihadist.

 

If something walks like a duck, my friends, then it is a duck.

 

Also if Obama acts in the Presidency like a Muslim then to all practical purposes he is a Muslim.

 

He is also a Black president fighting a racist war against Whites in America, and his wife Michelle even more so. Also he is Antisemitic having come from a Christian Church which is Antisemitic.

 

But this is hardly an individualist phenomenon. He is backed by the Democratic Party, by the trade Union Leaders in America, and by the so-called left.

 

And most strangely he is on his essential Islam policy backed by the 98 per cent majority of the republican party also, a fact which is proved by the isolation of the “Five” led by Michelle Bachman just a month ago. They in the Republican Party, the 98 per cent, who opposed Bachman hold on to the mistaken theoretical positions towards Jihad of Bush and Blair.

 

This reference to the instructive case of the isolation of Bachman by Republicans brings us again to the very heart of the matter in relation to the Libya murder of the Ambassador. For simplicity and clarity here are 4 points:

 

  1. The war against the Talibana nd Bin laden was a justfied war but Bush fought it under the very banner of Islam. Bush was effectively helping the Jihad.
  2. The war in Iraq was totally explicitely fighting for the Jihad, openly on behalf of Islam. It was fought under the banner of Islam is Peace. So let the world have Real Islam, said Bush and Blair.
  3. In both of those wars the so-called left of our times was reinforcing Bush and Blair. This left seemed to be against the war but they were certainly for the Jihad. Thus we say reinforcing Bush’s natural pro-Jihadism.
  4. The ground was thereby well prepared for the first Muslim Prez. Of the United States, the notorious Obama. This Muslim prez. traveleld to Cairo in June 2009, his first international assignment, and made it known that he was backing the Muslim Brotherhood and opposing Mubarak. An old Irish saying “make hay while the sun shines”. That is precisely what the Muslim Prez. began to do in all the events of the Arab Spring.

 

 

Thus to follow from those 4 points, and especially number 4, in quick succession the power and force of the US and Europe began to depose relatively secular leaders in a great expanse of the world and replace these secular leaders with Jihadists, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim Jihad in action.

 

The crippled and crippling leaders of modern Israel and modern Zionism ( shadow of the grandeur of Herzl) sat on their haunches while around their borders secular leader after secular leader were deposed. The defeat of Mubarak, not by the Egyptian Jihad but by the US Prsidential Jihadist, means now a certain and widespread war to save the Jews from extinction, which there is no guarantee they will win.

 

And now we have reached this stage.

 

Muammar Gadhafi as a young soldier led a popular overthrow of the Monarchy of Idris. It is not accidental that Gadhafi joined his government to that of Bush and Blair and against Al Qaida in the Magreb in the years previous to the Obama fiend turning on him. This shows that Gadhafi, like Saleh, Gaghbo, Ben Ali, Mubarak and many others, was a relative secularist opposed to Sharia. In that respect he and they were in reality freedom fighters. That is why we on 4international opposed abstentionism. Gadhafi had to be defended UNCONDIONALLY we maintained constantly.

 

But it was those very forces of Sharia which America has placed in power in Libya and which then brutally murdered Gadhafi and his son, carried out the very same action yesterday against the Ambassador of America.

 

Thus in every respect the American Ambassador to Libya was murdered by the … the chosen forces of the American Government.

 

That it must be admitted is a very strange phenomenon. It mirrors the equally strange sitaution of a freedom loving American people electing as President a Sharia loving Jihadist, who is none other than Obama. But sadly the experience of Michelle Bachman and her 4 associates shows that Romney and the Republicans are not qualitatively different. Time will tell. Obama may even be returned because the Media is all powerful and is all (despite everything that has happened) pro-Obama to the very core.

 

There are many tragedies in the world today but there is one major tragedy in the situation. The left is on the side of the Jihad. There is therefore no alternative for people, especially youth. Youth will join Stalinists, Anarchists, Revisionist Trotskyists etc. but they will be miseducated there. That is the real task ahead…to create the alternative to these traitors. The left has been destroyed by the Palstinian Arab narrative. Our articles will also be on Facebook. Feel free to write your opinion.

STOP IRAN

 

4international publishes this remarkable essay which centres on Iran’s drive to the Nuclear Bomb and the way that this is being helped along by all the nations on earth with the exception of Israel. The analysis here by the essayist Joseph Zaalishvili is unanswerable. Facts layered upon facts.

He goes very deep. In the early paragraphs he says he does not understand the phenomenon, and then he writes like a Marxist economist when he suggests it may be the economic crisis in the capitalist system. He does not use the words “capitalist system” but what else can it be?

This is must reading for everybody. You must keep in mind and perhaps make some allowance for the fact that he does not understand anything about the history of the Russian Revolution.

Yet this gap in his knowledge on another level is unforgivable. In 1917 the Czarist state had collapsed, then the capitalist state under kerensky ran smack bang up against the interests of hundreds of millions when Kerensky refused to withdraw from the war (The First World War) and take other measures to alleviate the suffering of the millions of ordinary people.

In fact in one sense the Bolsheviks were URGED ON to take the power by the millions of workers, because they knew very well that a bloody counter revolution led by Kerensky was underway.

Another point hardly ever addressed is that the Russian Revolution saved the great swath of Jewry in Russia from Holocaust. Kerensky was joining forces with those old forces who were imbued with Antisemitism. It is not known either or is hidden that the White Russians were to go on to form the German Nazis and create the Nazi Holocaust. The Bolsheviks have never been given the credit. In fact that has been deliberately hidden because I have written about this on Israpundit and certain Jewish writers have deliberately ignored this information.

It is clear then that Joseph Zaalishvili has not studied any of this, or else he has studied it, knows very well and thus is ideologically driven against the truth. For example and proof of this many of his references are to Stalinism (he talks about the cruelty of Stalin but totally omits or obscures that the greatest enemy who Stalin had was Trotsky and that Stalin almost certainly poisoned linen) which as we all know is the actual “Gravedigger” of the Revolution.

 

{IMPORTANT ESSAY ON IRAN BEGINS HERE}

“There is a saying: time is money… But this expression has changed. Its meaning has changed. In the 21st century, the more accurate expression is that time is security.

I do not know why this is so. Maybe the global financial crisis that has destroyed the economies of many countries is to blame.

With each passing day Iran and the Islamic world come closer to developing nuclear weapons.

Is this so hard to see? Is it not clear that Iran’s nuclear program was not created for peaceful purposes?

Haven’t all the latest speeches by the President, religious leaders, the President of parliament and other leaders of the Islamic Republic confirmed this fact?

The fact that the Saudi king put Ahmadinejad in the place of honor when they met, and that Iranian officials have recently visited Russia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon, and Syria — doesn’t all this matter more than what they say to President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton?

The Iranian Minister of Industries and Business, Mehdi Ghazanfari, during a meeting with the Iraqi Minister of Industry, Ahmed Nassir Dalli Al Karboli, stressed the importance of close ties between Iran and Baghdad in the field of economics and industry, and said that it was important to improve bilateral relations through joint investment.

Mehdi Ghazanfari announced Iran’s readiness to invest and implement infrastructure projects in Iraq, provide for the needs of that country, and supply the Iraqi market a variety of industrial and agricultural products.

Ahmed Nassir Dalli Al Karboli, in turn, said that Iran is a developed industrialized power, and called for greater cooperation in the field of mining.

He said that Iraq needs Iran’s experience in manufacturing and mining, and stressed the need to expand bilateral cooperation in the automotive industry and the creation of joint businesses.

The Iraqi minister pointed out that in Iraq the door for Iranian investors is always open.

Can anyone believe that the oil embargo and economic sanctions alone can stop Islamic supremacism? Unfortunately, I am not one of them.

How can we trust only sanctions, when the current U.S. administration cannot even convince its partners and allies to boycott the Islamic Republic of Iran?

Isn’t that reason enough? Is Iran a democratic state? Does it not infringe upon the rights of citizens? Is it threatened by anyone? Does it not pose a danger? And for whom? Does it not pose a threat to the world both militarily, politically and economically?

Again I remember the time when the world was suspicious of the Soviet Union. What distinguishes Iran from that country? Just the fact that in the Soviet Union there lived people of different faiths.

In the USSR, there was the KGB. In Iran there are the “Revolutionary Guards.”

In the Soviet Union one could get killed for dissent; in Iran, too.

The Soviet Union ruled by an aggressive anti-human ideology; Iran does, too. It is Islam.

In the USSR, people were forced to learn Lenin’s books; in Iran, the book of Muhammad.

The General Secretary of the Communist Party, Khrushchev, gave the world the Cuban Missile Crisis on October 14, 1962, and nearly caused a nuclear war. The Soviet Union supported the Arabs living in Palestine. Iran, too.

So where’s the difference?

Iran does the same things, but this time it’s much more serious. There are new technologies and more hate. The hatred that comes from the ideology of Islam. And America is not the same, either. Unfortunately.

Well, at that time, during the days of the Soviet Union, the Obama administration did not rule America. If it had, I would not be alive to write to you now. Yes, and many other millions would never have seen the sunlight.

A delegation led by Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq Rowsch Nuri Shaways arrived August 14 on an official visit to Tehran.

The Deputy Prime Minister was accompanied by the Ministers of Industry, Trade, Energy and Finance, as well as by the heads of the central bank and customs administration of Iraq.

In a three-day visit, they discussed issues of economic relations between Iraq and Iran and opened a branch of the Iraqi bank in Iran.

Iran will aid the Iraqi reconstruction grid and establish the export electricity to Syria, ISNA reported on Thursday, with reference to the Iranian Minister of Energy, Majid Namdz.

Namdz made this statement during a meeting with Energy Minister Karim Aftanom of Iraq.

According to Namdz, Iraq does not have sufficient electrical capacity to transfer the necessary amount of energy to the country. Since Iraq is now experiencing some technical problems with electrical power, Iran will provide help. At the end of September Iran plans to provide the necessary equipment.

Iraq imports from Iran 1200 MW of electricity per day. In July, Iraq’s debt to Iran for electricity amounted to 500 million dollars.

In addition, through Iraq, Iran sells electricity to Syria and Lebanon.

“We will establish the supply of electricity from Iran to the Iraqi city of Basra,” said Namdz, adding that the first contract was just about to be signed.

In July, Iran and Syria signed two memoranda of understanding on expansion of bilateral cooperation in the field of electricity and water.

In one of the memos, Iran will initially export 50 MW of electricity to Syria through Iraq. In the next phase, electricity exports will increase to 200 MW.

As a result of an economic development plan, in 2015, Iran will increase power generation by 25 GW, and bring it up to 73 GW of energy, the minister said.

Iran currently exchanges electricity with Turkey, Armenia, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Hmm…

The 16th NAM Summit, to be held from 26 to 31 August in Tehran, is a historic opportunity for Iran, in the mind of the Islamic leadership.

The Vice President of the Islamic Republic of Iran for parliamentary affairs, Lutfullah Furuzanda, said that Iran participates in the dialogue about justice and Islamic awakening, and the convening of the 16th NAM Summit in Tehran is a historic opportunity to further this dialogue.

Furuzanda added that the member countries of NAM demonstrate the essence of the Islamic Revolution, the trust and participation of the people, and the progress and achievements of Iranian experts in the nuclear arena, as well as the nature of the sanctions against Iran.

Furuzanda also stressed the need to expose the true face of the imperialists and Zionists, and said that if the member countries of NAM do not come together and start a common dialogue, world imperialism will continue its expansionist policies until it is destroyed as a movement.

And it all happens in the 21st century. Does this meeting and all other such meetings not represent a danger to global security? Who, where, when, why — all go to Tehran.

Is such a meeting not the best way to share or sell information, as well as scientific achievements and technology?

Can we assume that the countdown has already begun?

Ten, nine, eight … three, two…

Posted by Joseph Zaalishvili on August 23, 2012
 

IF YOU CANNOT DEFEND ASSAD YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISRAEL EITHER (FROM RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT)

There is a lengthy discussion on Israpundit on Powers and “Responsibility to Protect”. These Jewish leaders in the Diaspora are in total crisis because they do not know how to fight against the phenomenon of the “Arab Spring” which is at the same time the fight against Fascism, and indeed the alliance of the capitalist powers with Islam is the making of the modern Fascist Movement.

In this context the word that is never mentioned by Ted belman, Pamela Geller, Spencer and others is Marxism or Trotskyism. Rather than the truth they try to muddy the waters on Leon Trotsky and his defence of the Jews and the Israel in the making.

I wrote the following in a comment (url below) and please understand that if you do not defend the disreputable Assad against this Fascism of “Responsibility to Protect” then you do not defend the Jews and Israel either.

 

{This is the comment}

Let us get one thing crystal clear. If anybody thinks that Romney as a Republican President would not support “responsibility to protect” then please think on, and keep on thinking.

Heck even the editor of Israpundit Ted Belman backed up a bloodthirsty call of a noted Jewish American organization on this very site to bomb the living bejasus out of Gadhafi. It is true that Ted pulled back from this but it is on record that I immediately attacked this position, which is also not only the death-knell of sovereign states as under Gadhafi but also is the end of the road for the Jewish state of Israel.

Israel and its present leaders, which includes also the total leadership in the Diaspora (the leadership of the Jews has many differing strands, being traditionally a broad church, which is good and bad actually), and includes people like Ted and Gerry Gordan plus a thousand others, are sitting ducks. This is the result of political cowardice, of deep bias against new perspectives rooted in Judaism and in the conservatism of Judaism, which historically this conservatism has its good and bad aspects.

From the beginning of the crisis in Yugoslavia I recognized that THAT was “responsibility to protect” and I fought for the independence of the Serb people to fight to hold together their unified state of Yugoslavia, while people like Gerry Gordon did not lift a finger to defend Yugoslavia, but rationalised its break-up.

Ted was shaky on this at the beginning but a chap called Bill from Canada, a lawyer, disgraced Jews forever by sitting on the fence, while Yamit82 disgraced the memory of Yamit 1982 by launching the most vicious slanders against the Serbs, culled from disreputes like Hoare.

Came to Egypt Yamit82 and others found every reason under the sun NOT TO defend Mubarak from the Muslim Brotherhood and US Imperialism cum EU cum UN cum NATO.

Ben Ali was no different, Gaghbo no different, Gadhafi no different, and now Assad.

Funny that! Not talking about THAT, eh!

There is no point at all in moaning about Power and “responsibility to protect” if you do not actively defend Assad against just this very same thing.

The thing about Ted, the “weaselie” yamit82, Gordon, Mr Barry Rubin and a thousand other Jews, (I say Jews but remember that each and every one of these speaks only for themselves) is that they can always find the words to be utterly hypocritical.

So the opposition to Obama/Powers on Syria fell to the Stalinists of China and Russia and that is an unstable foundation, because the Stalinists are reactionary to the core. They always end up supporting Imperialism because Stalinism is a creation of Imperialism, and are not Marxists, are in opposition to Marxism.

Ayers was a creation of the CIA and Jared Israel has detailed how he and his girl friend split a promising student movement in the 60s which was seeking to link the students with the American workers.

So please do not refer to Ayers as a Marxist unless you are either intellectually challenged or wilfully dishonest.

Same applies also to our friend Obama. Obama a Marxist ha ha ha!

All the evidence points to the murky hand of the CIA behind Obama also. Do not forget that the CIA protected Eichmann in South America until the Jews busted the CIA post 45 racket and caught that piece of filth.

And just remember that if you cannot defend Assad from Annan then you had best shut up about this “responsibility to protect”, and when the NATO descends on the Jews in Israel as they did on the Christians in Kosovo keep your hypocritical mouths firmly shut there also.

You have to be consistent to be believed.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/45393/comment-page-1#comment-157592

“MODERATE” ABBAS: “WE WILL NEVER RECOGNIZE ISRAEL”

REMEMBER THAT FATAH WAS FOUNDED BY ARAFAT WHO WAS INSPIRED BY THE NAZI AND PALESTINIAN ISLAMIST HAJJ AMIN EL HUSSEINI

ROOTS OF PALESTINIAN ARAB MOVEMENT ARE IN THE HOLOCAUST

Moderate Muslim Fatah: “We Have Never Recognized Israel’s Right to Exist And Will Never Do So”

PAMELA GELLER DEALS WITH THE OBAMA SUPPORT FOR THE PALESTINIAN ARABS INT HEIR JIHAD AGAINST ISRAEL

Obama emboldens the global jihad with his annihilationist talk of “Auschwitz borders.” With all of Obama’s talk last week of ethnically cleansing the Jewish homeland of the Jews, he never spoke to the coalition government formed between the genocidal racist group Hamas and Fatah.

Abbas was the first: the first foreign leader that Obama called when he took office, January 21, 2009. And to what end? They crap all over America.

Obama_en_abbas

 US-Funded Fatah: “We Have Never Recognized Israel’s Right to Exist And Will Never Do So”… (Jerusalem Post)

(JPost) — Fatah has never recognized Israel’s right to exist and will never do so, according to Azzam al-Ahmed, a member of the Fatah Central Committee who is closely associated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

Ahmed, who is also head of the Fatah negotiating team with Hamas, said PA security forces in the West Bank were arresting Hamas supporters to protect them from being targeted by the IDF.

Ahmed’s remarks were made in an interview with the Egyptian newspaper Al-Masry Al- Youm.

Asked whether Fatah had spoken with Hamas about recognizing Israel, the senior Fatah official said, “Fatah has not recognized Israel. I challenge anyone who says that the case is otherwise, whether it’s Hamas or others. Neither Fatah nor Hamas is required to recognize Israel. Only governments and states extend Obama- abbas recognition. It was the Palestinian government that recognized Israel, just as the Israeli government recognized us.”

Ahmed said the PLO had recognized Israel with the signing of the Oslo Accords.

“An organization recognized a state and a state recognized an organization,” he said.

“Now states should recognize each other when a Palestinian state is declared next September.”

THE NAZI FASCISTS OF TADIC AND THE EU SEND RATKO MLADIC TO THE HAGUE KANGAROO COURT

The Nazis who are in charge of Serbia today did the work on behalf of their fellow Nazis in the EU and US Government, the BBC, and The Hague kangaroo Court, and sent Mladic off to the Hague. No expense was spared by these Serb Nazis under Tadic.

 

There is no separation to the bombing of Gadhafi and Libya by Cameron, to the promoting of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt by Obama, and to the growing war against Israel by those Nazis in Hamas and Fatah

 

This is the sharpest sigh that the world is driving towards dictatorship, of a type that we cannot yet predict, and can only see the general signs of.

 

All is connected.

 

Along with this drive to dictatorship represented in the Hague Kangaroo Court we have the continued efforts of the world to drive towards anti-Semitism.

Meanwhile George Galloway is exposed by brilliant writer Habibi as meeting with Arab terrorist Jew hating types.

This patriot Mladic has been hounded by these Fascists for so long, that he is now physically a very ill man, having suffered 3 strokes.

No matter about that, the Hague kangaroo Court has got to continue the hatred stirring against the Serbs. The whole lie machine that created the Srebrenica Massacre Hoax has got to be kept going because actually if the truth came out people would see and understand this drive towards world dictatorship

From the M. Bozinovich Blog (which is located on www.serbianna.com)

May 28, 2011

RATKO MLADIC URGES PEACE AND RESPECT FOR LAW

The arrested General Ratko Mladic urges peace and respect for law in Serbia, says his son Darko Mladic.

“His message is that people that wish to express their dislike of today’s government they have to do that in a peaceful and dignified way, without fights and without insecurity for people and objects,” the son of the arrested General said after conveying this message of his father, Serbia’s General Ratko Mladic that is wanted for war crimes.

VISIT TO THE GRAVE OF HIS DAUGHTER

Before being taken to The Hague, the General said that he wants to visit the grave of his daughter that was buried in 1994.

“Congratulations, you’ve found the one you have been looking for,” are the words that the wanted General Ratko Mladic said to the arresting Serbian officers.

After 16 years of searching, General Mladic was apprehended inside the house of his relative in Serbia’s northern village of Lazarevo near Zrenjanin.

Authorities say that Mladic has aged so much that he does not resemble much of his old self. Mladic lived under an assumed name of Milorad Komadic and some villagers say that they “never saw him here”.

Villagers also say that the house where Mladic was arrested was searched several times in the past.

On Thursday morning, however, police stormed the house once again and made the arrest of the General who is wanted at The Hague war crimes court

RATKO MLADIC IS NOT GUILTY OF ANY CRIMES

The whole world must be roused to defend Mladic and karadzic

This is of the greatest importance for everybody, for every nation, and especially for the Jewish nation

This also raises the vital question which is, what type of organization can actually fight on this issue.

It is clear that Mladic had to work in order to live in those 16 years, and that he lived in great hardship.

This more and more has the signs of a Serbia which was crushed by the NATO Fascists, and they put their own Fascists like into power, thanks to George Soros money.

Fighters for freedom in America like Pamela Geller should think on this. This is exactly what Obama, and his agents in MediaMatters.org, would like to do with you also.

This is a drive to dictatorship.

WITH THE JOINING TOGETHER OF THE PA, HAMAS AND EGYPT AGAINST ISRAEL IT IS NOW OPEN WARFARE

John Bolton has written following the recent Netanyahu Obama battle:

 

The peace agreement between the Hamas terrorists and Fatah, brokered by the post-Mubarak government in Egypt, marks the effective end of any realistic peace process between Israel and the Palestinians for the foreseeable future. 

Obama has not yet grasped this reality, nor does he seem to understand that the Syrian dictatorship and Lebanon’s Hezbollah terrorists remain Iranian pawns, threats both to Israel and to the United States.Accordingly, now is hardly the time to force Israel into unnatural efforts at “peace processing” with the usual suspects. 

Now that Netanyahu has spoken, it is time for Americans and Europeans concerned with true peace and security in the Middle East to carry the debate forward.

 

Bolton is right!

 

The end of the “peace process” is the new reality.

 

This end is highlighted in large letters by the PA and Hamas joining forces, and by the actions of the Egyptian regime in opening the border with the Gaza.

 

This was our main disagreement with the speeches of Netanyahu.

 

The new situation in Egypt is what Netanyahu should have focussed on. But it was precisely here that he pulled back from the necessary open confrontation with Obama.

 

Netanyahu could have pointed to the 84 per cent in the Pew Poll that wanted to have death for apostasy, with immediate effect towards the oppressed minority, the Egyptian Christian Copts. Like the coward he is Netanyahu did not mention the plight of the Copts.

 

Also the result of the Obama approach to Egypt has been this new great danger to Israel. With an open border with Egypt, no need for tunnels, arms simply are driven in.

 

Again Netanyahu pulled back from confronting Obama. Coward Netanyahu!

 

Above all Libya. Here Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy are raining bombs onto Tripoli every single night, and the table tennis partner of Obama, Cameron, snarls that Gadhafi has to go.

 

Netanyahu not a single word about this. Coward Netanyahu!

 

Yet there was a confrontation between Netanyahu and the policies of Obama.

 

The answer to this is not the courage and bravery of Netanyahu, but that Obama and his clique like the Irish woman Samantha Power, are really the equivalent in power of the anti-Semites of the ISM

 

Any small step against that anti-Semitism made by Netanyahu we on 4international, it goes without saying, will support.

 

But rather than losing our heads, it is far better to keep our feet on the ground, and to make a very cool and sober assessment of Netanyahu

 

And how Netanyahu just does not weigh up in what is now open warfare against Israel.

 

It is this open warfare from Obama that the American patriotic people need to see, and be made to see.

 

4INTERNATIONAL DEFENDS PAMELA GELLER AGAINST THE INDEPENDENT SCURRILOUS ATTACK AND ALSO AGAINST THIS POLITICAL CREEP CHARLES JOHNSON

IT IS VITAL THAT A UNITED FRONT IS CREATED TO DEFEND THE STRUGGLE AGAINST DICTATORSHIP IN EUROPE AND AMERICA, WHICH ITSELF IS CONNECTED TO THE DEFENCE OF ISRAEL, AND THE EXPOSURE OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ANTISEMITISM BEING BEBIND THE SO CALLED “ARAB SPRING”

BUT THERE ARE ENEMIES TO THIS UNITED FRONT, ONE OF WHICH IS THE BLOG PAJAMAS MEDIA AS PRODUCED BY CHARLES JOHNSON. (more later)

Pamela Geller has come under a vicious attack from the London paper, The Independent. This is the paper close to Harry’s place, close to Oliver Kamm who now writes for the Times.

In fact The Independent expresses the very worst of British hypocricy and reaction on the world stage.

It was The Independent which led in the lies against the Serbs in former Yugoslavia. So Geller is in good company (with the Serbs!)

Johnson

This revealing comment appeared after the Independent attack on Geller by Johnson. It was a comment out of the blue on Libya which followed the slander against Geller by Charles Johnson. It seems out of the blue but is actually very revealing indeed!

This person wrote:

I might start doing page for Libya Updates soon, Explanation of what’s happened that day in the evening.

However, further good news. The rebels are about to enter Zliten for the next battle. And shelling of Misrata has stopped, so all sorts of supplies and shenanigans and enter the city.

 

“Further good news”, this man says. The Libyan “Rebels” are in reality The Muslim Brotherhood and the opposition to Muammar Gadhafi is in reality The Muslim Brotherhood

This man on Johnson’s blog Pajamas Media (unopposed)  is lining up with The Muslim Brotherhood and against Muammar Gadhafi.

Now it so happens that Obama, the Democrats, and a goodly section of the Republicans in America are also trying to create a new virtual reality, Muslim Brotherhood good, Salafists bad.

Except that this falls apart when one remembers Muslim Brotherhood IS Salafism!

Remember also that in this Obama speak world of lies this all leads to the acceptance of Hamas as a “moderate” party and therefore the acceptance by Israel of a Hamas dominated “Palestinian” Arab State on the flank of Israel.

Would that state be peaceful? Apparently so, to follow this twisted logic being promoted, promoted by Obama and the EU Establishment, also it seems by Charles Johnson.

The appearance is an attack on Geller. The essence though, which lies within and hiding behind that appearance, is that Israel must accept a Hamas dominated Sharia state on its own land, which is Judea and Samaria, but at any rate directly on its new border.

Let us take the scurrilous attack on Geller before we do the Independent. This is what Johnson wrote:

The Independent’s Robert Chalmers has a very balanced and fair look at Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?

And of course, any balanced and fair examination of the Shrieking Harpy can only come to one conclusion: she’s desperately unhinged.

What’s striking about this article, though, is that Geller completely lacks the courage of her convictions. When confronted about her bizarre, hate-filled posts, she invariably attempts to pretend she didn’t really say what she did really say. It’s a “joke,” or it’s somebody else’s writing that she just happened to put on her blog for no particular reason, or it’s “taken out of context.” Like many extremists and bigots, underneath the bluster and the hateful statements Geller is a coward.

For example:

Among the many new things I have learnt from the work of Pamela Geller is that President Obama reputedly used to knock around with a crack whore.

“That,” the author, blogger and broadcaster insists, “is not what I said. You are taking this out of context. The post [on her website atlasshrugs.com] was pointing out how people were reporting lie after lie about Sarah Palin. I said to myself, there is so much about Obama we don’t print. In his youth,” she continues, repeating a story for which there exists absolutely no foundation, “he supposedly liked a girl who was a crack whore. I never reported it as fact. They say all these vile things about Palin but do we ever talk about Obama and the crack whore?”

The incredibly libellous post, entitled: “IT’S TIME TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA” appeared on 1 August 2009. “Why not tell the truth about Obama and his reported strange sexual predilections?” Geller wrote. “It is well known that he allegedly was involved with a crack whore in his youth. Very seedy stuff … Find the ho, give her a show! Obama allegedly trafficked in some very deviant practices.”

Pretty hard to take that out of context, wouldn’t you say?

Then Johnson adds:

Chalmers emailed me to ask for my reaction to Geller’s insults:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38569/comments/#cc9067095

I would not wish to pursue Johnson’s smell any further because it is not a pleasant smell to follow.

Except to point to that  last reference (to the email made by The Independent to Johnson) that they do flock together with a sure instinct.

On the Geller blog  Atlas Shrugs I took up this reference made by The Independent above:

“the incredibly libellous blog”

as being the pivotal comment by The Independent.

 

I highlight this off the cuff remark by The Independent because it points to where the centre of this struggle really must be concentrated, it must focus on defence of the First Amendment

This is not to suggest that struggles in Israel or in Europe in defence of basic rights should not be fought, but to say that the focus has to be the defence in America of the First Amendment

And that is why this spokesperson for Obama, Johnson, and why this mouthpiece of British Imperialism, The Independent, attack Pamela Geller

Thus you will find my comment in defence of Pamela Geller on the Atlas Shrugs site this morning:

 
I defend Pamela Geller against this abomination who calls himself a journalist.

But the issue is wider even than this attack.

What is called in historical socialist circles as the United Front

As opposed to the present Fascist “Left” hatred of Pamela Geller and many others.

I take these attacks on Pamela very seriously and they are a major danger to free speech to all

Geller is leading the fight against Obama, but in essence this is leading the fight against dictatorship, which is taking a number of forms, one but only one of which is the Sharia issue

Remember the Independent led in the destruction of Yugoslavia and the hounding of its President Slobodan Milosevic, who was it must be remembered and emphasised poisoned by the NATO in his NATO jail

The most serious charge by this Independent writer was that the article by Pamela was incredibly “libellous”.

This writer is actually correct on that. If Pamela was writing in any country in Europe, any at all, it would be libellous.

Only because there exists the First Amendment is that article not libellous in America.

This points to the best way forward which centres on the defence of the First Amendment in America, where this battle now should concentrate.

I call for a United Front to defend Geller from The Independent, and to defend Spencer from threats of physical attacks, to defend Geert Wilders etc.

I represent true socialism and there is another history to this socialist movement that not everybody is aware of.

 

may 16 2.56 am (american time)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/cover-story-independent-sunday-magazine-.html#comment-6a00d8341c60bf53ef01538e8329b3970b

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HOW THE JEWS CAN DEFEAT OBAMA AND US IMPERIALISM

The excellent DEBKAfile reporting agency has the following piece concerning the current visit of prime Minister Netanyahu to Obama in Washington. It is rivetting and vital knowledge, yet it still does not get to grips with the situation, because it offers no way forward for Jews in terms of leadership

The heading of the Debka report (http://www.debka.com/article/8893/) is that the talks today are stressing nuclear issues, Iran´s and Israel´s. But why should there be even one word spoken about the nuclear weapons of Israel? On the other hand there should be plenty about the nuclear bomb being built by Islam and Iran.
Even the Debka heading shows that for Israel US imperialism is nothing less than the road to destruction.
On this basis alone it would be much better for Netanyahu to refuse to meet with Obama at all. At the very least the agenda should be on the table in advance and every word spoken should be published by Israel.
The extreme minimum would be for Netanyahu to publish a statement in which he lays down the central requirements of the Jews of Israel, following their experience in 1939 to 45, then 48, then 1967 etc.
There is a precedent for this kind of situation. The Russian delegation under Leon Trotsky went to the Brest Litovsk Treaty, (Brest is a city near the Polish border in modern Belarus)
I am not suggesting there is an exact parallel between Israel of today facing Obama, and the newly formed Workers Republic of latye 1917 facing the powers around Germany, with the rest of the rabid Imperialist lands like Britain waiting in the wings, engaged in war to finish off the Workers Republic. But there must be similarities.
Lenin decided that the Workers State could not survive if Germany decided to invade Moscow. They signed in order to gain a breathing space. Once again I am not saying that the position of Netanyahu is so weak as that.
But what is certain is that: It is true that Obama has to be challenged. The question of how and when is also of extreme importance.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was assured of a much friendlier and correct  White House welcome for his fifth encounter with President Barack Obama July 6 – compared with the unmannerly treatment meted out to him on March 23. Still, five time bombs with short fuses are ticking under their seats on issues on which the US president’s internationalist, diplomacy-first attitude is far from Israel’s survivalist, security-first strategic outlook on a number of basic issues. Both will try to overcome their mutual mistrust.
Their respective approaches to Iran’s drive for a nuclear weapon and the future of Israel’s reputed nuclear arsenal are the most combustible of their five topics of discussion. The US and Israel clearly do not see eye on eye on how and when to take action against Iran.

On June 17, defense secretary Robert Gates said Iran was developing the capability to fire scores or hundreds of missiles at Europe. Ten days later, he reported Iran had enough low-enriched uranium to start building two atom bombs within two years. So by the time the new UN sanctions and the complementary measures Obama approved Friday, July 2 start biting and affecting Tehran’s decision-making, the last moment for halting the construction of a nuclear bomb will have come and gone.
On June 28, Adm. Mullen, Chairman of the Joint US Chiefs of Staff commented that the US and Israel are “in sync” over the time needed to find out if the sanctions are working or not.
debkafile’s military sources describe this assertion as a pious hope rather than established fact, because even the US president cannot be absolutely sure Israel will not launch a surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities before it is too late. Until now, he applied the brakes on Israeli action by two means: One by a constant flow of senior American military and intelligence figures to Israel every couple of days and frequent invitations to security minister Ehud Barak and Israeli military leaders to visit the US; second, by a personal presidential pledge to Netanyahu that if Israel holds off from striking Iran, he will continue to back Israel on matters essential to its security.
One such matter is the policy of ambiguity with regard to Israel’s nuclear arsenal, i.e., never confirming its existence.
For Jerusalem, this pledge was cast in doubt by Washington’s decision, against Israeli protests, to support the resolution calling for a nuclear-free Middle East tabled by Egypt for the Arab and Non-Aligned blocs at the Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference that took place in Washington in May. This motion demanded that Israel join the NPT and accept international inspectors of its nuclear facilities. Israel was further angered by the fact that Iran and its nuclear weapons program were not even mentioned in the resolution.

Although US officials explained that a vote for the motion was obligatory given Obama’s comprehensive quest for a world without nuclear weapons. Although Israel’s government and security leaders never said this in so many words, they felt the administration had let them down on a key pledge and freed them of the commitment to refrain from a surprise attack on Iran.

Debka in the above remarks has very clearly explained the situation. There is now deep distrust between all sections of the Israeli Government and all sections of the Obama Regime.

This is indeed something new. No matter how bad the previous Presidents of the US were, the fiction that they would stand by Israel was always, somehow, maintained.

That has been totally torn asunder. The Israeli people, and it is also certain the people around Netanyahu, NO LONGER TRUST THE AMERICAN REGIME OF OBAMA.

Netanuahu is NOT Livni. I read material put about on the net that Netanyahu and Livni are just different forms of poison. This is especially the political line put across by the so called “Jewish” website Israpundit

Such as the following ignorant comment from an obvious ignoramus in the field of political strategy

Actually he is probably a lot better than Livni would have been since she would have been a clone of BHO (Barry Sotero).

BB, Better than Livni is like a choice between Ebola and Anthrax

The above is the depth of analysis on that site!

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24642#comments

What that leaves out, to put it simply so that those dolts can understand, Netanyahu is NOT the same as Livni, because a very serious election has intervened, when the vast majority decided that Livni would no longer be the leader of the Jews, and Netanyahu was put in Livni´s  place BY THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

That kind of confusion by Israpundit, whose political line is as farcical as it is dangerous, has to be consciously opposed.

We on 4international are far from saying that Netanyahu is our hero, but we are saying in opposition to this treacherous Israpundit, that there is a difference between the Netanyahu Government and the previous Livni Government.

As we said above the essence of the matter is distrust. Livni was full of trust for the Arabs, before she led in the pulling of Jewish civilians and military from the Gaza. Livni also trusted Sharon and Bush.

The great gain of the Debka analysis is that it pinpoints that this trust is no longer there between the Israelis and the American Government. This is not a small matter in the whole post 1948 relations between these two pivotal states.

The Israeli prime minister and US president, in their talks Tuesday, must therefore forge a new “nuclear accord” governing both Iran and Israel.

*(Here I must confess I do not understand the Debka method, or are they being a little ironic. As they said already the trust is gone)

Assent on this question could ease the discord on four other key issues:
1.  Netanyahu says the “proximity talks,” formally started two months ago, have never really taken off, and progress on the topics at issue with the Palestinians demand direct talks for which he is fully prepared at any moment and for which Mahmoud Abbas has pre-conditions. The Israeli prime minister will discuss with the US president various formats for getting this dialogue on track, including a US-Saudi “Marshall Plan” for a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza Strip that came up during Saudi King Abdullah’s visit to the White House on June 29.

2.   They will also explore ways for Israel to go back to construction in Jerusalem and the West Bank settlements, even nominally, after the 10-month freeze expires on Sept. 26 to ease the pressure on Netanyahu at home. Several Knesset factions held off until after the prime minister’s White House visit a bill requiring the government to seek a parliamentary majority for any further suspension of construction. The US will demand closer monitoring of any future freeze.

The idea of seeking a majority before there is any future suspension of building in the “settlements”. Things in Israel move slowly but they do move. Reminds one of the English revolutionaries in the Cromwellian revolution. This issue alone is the most fundamental. At stake is the fact that to satisfy Abbas there will have to be at least 300,000 Jews moved out of the “West Bank” so that these Muslims can have their Muslim only statelet (like Bosnia, like Kosovo, like Armenia etc)

3.  The crisis between Turkey and Israel. So far, Washington had avoided guaranteeing to withhold its support from a UN Assembly motion calling for an international commission to probe the flotilla incident in which Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish vessel leading a convoy for breaking Israel’s Gaza blockade and ended in a clash in which 9 Turkish activists were killed and 6 Israelis injured.
Israel’s eased embargo on civilian goods to Gaza was widely welcomed.

The two leaders will explore a possible joint US-Israeli stand against Turkish Prime Minister Tayyep Recip Erdogan in view of his deepening bonds with the Tehran-Damascus-Hizballah-Hamas bloc.

4.  They will also discuss how the US and Israel can work together against the continued flow of heavy weaponry, including ballistic missiles, from Syria to the Lebanese Shiite terrorist Hizballah.

 

At the start of this month Caroline Glick came closest to the position of Trotsky and Lenin in the Brest Litovsk treaty talks

(By the way, the very first thing which Trotsky did when he made his appearance at the talks, he being preceded by other Russian members of the team, was to end the cosy and friendly relations with the Germans. Little things, like insisting that the Russian team had a separate place to have their tea breaks etc, on the basis that there were issues that needed to be discussed, were not little things at all. At the same time Trotsky was eyeing up the opposition, to see who were the front men, and to understand who were the real powers on the German side, concluding that it was the German Army High Command, not even at the conference. Netanyahu needs to have the same formality established)

It is on the issue of the inter play of respective forces that Glick is so correct and well worth listening to:

What this means is that Netanyahu is well placed to stand up to Obama’s pressure. If he plays his cards wisely, he can say no to Obama and avoid an open confrontation. For instance, instead of agreeing to extend the building prohibition, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to discuss that demand in face-to-face negotiations with Abbas. Rather than agree to Abbas’s preconditions, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to listen to Abbas’s position in face-to-face negotiations. And so on and so forth. Such statements by Netanyahu will take the pressure for making concessions off him and put Obama and Abbas on the spot.

Even more importantly, it will buy Israel time.

And buying time should be Israel’s chief goal with respect to Washington today. Since taking office, Obama has repeatedly demonstrated that he will not reconsider his fundamentally hostile view of Israel. Obama’s basic belief that Israel’s strength and size are to blame for all the violence and radicalism in the Arab world is not subject to change, regardless of how clearly and continuously events on the ground prove it wrong.

EVEN WORSE for Israel, Obama is not alone in this view. Indeed, as a report in Foreign Policy this week makes clear, Obama’s position on Israel is moderate when compared to the positions being staked out in influential policy circles in the US military.

On Wednesday, Foreign Policy published the content of a memo written last month in the US Military’s Central Command. The memo, a “Red Team” assessment of how the US should position itself vis-à-vis the likes of Hamas and Hizbullah, reveals that among key members of the US policy-making community, Israel is viewed with extreme hostility.

The leaked memo reportedly reflects the views of a significant number of senior and mid-level officers in Centcom, including large numbers of intelligence officers, as well as a significant number of area analysts stationed in the Middle East. It argues that it is wrong for the US to lump jihadist movements like Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida and Hizbullah in one group.

Dismissing the significance of the identical religious dogma that stands at the root of these movements, the memo asserts that Hamas and Hizbullah are pragmatic and important social forces with which the US must foster good relations.

The memo calls for the US to support the integration of Hizbullah forces into the Lebanese military. It also calls for the US to encourage and permit the integration of Hamas forces into the US-trained Palestinian security forces.

As far as Israel is concerned, the memo blames the Jewish state for the US’s failure to date to adopt these recommended policies. Moreover, the memo’s authors condemn Israel’s maritime blockade of Gaza as keeping “the area on the verge of a perpetual humanitarian collapse.”

The Centcom memo also condemns Israel’s July 2006 decision to respond to Hizbullah’s unprovoked bombardment of northern Israel and its unprovoked cross-border attack against an IDF patrol in which five soldiers were killed and two were kidnapped and subsequently murdered.

Denying Hizbullah’s subservient relationship with the Iranian regime, the report claims that Israel’s decision to use force to defend itself against Hizbullah’s acts of war served to strengthen Hizbullah’s ties to Teheran.

What this memo shows is that Israel has little hope of seeing a change for the better in US policy in the near future and its best bet today is to play for time. Next week at the Oval Office, Netanyahu should capitalize on his advantage four months ahead of the congressional elections and put the burden on Obama and Abbas to show their good intentions.

Playing for time is what Glick suggests should be considered. This is what the Bolsheviks did clearly at Brest Litovsk. And was Lenin a conservative???

That idea is laughable but instructional, especially when one looks at this unchallenged comment on Israpundit, from a commenter who claims to live in the Negev:

Glick has lost it. We know she is still in BB’s tank but her advice is to stall for time avoiding confrontation? BB can’t avoid confrontation w/out conceding the kitchen sink and he’s already close to that.

What is to be gained by avoiding the inevitable confrontation that will come like a tsunami after the elections, no matter what the results?

Israel should tell Hussein to go Fuck himself and take on Obama personally with everything we can throw at him. We have lot of cards and leverage but chickenshit BB and Barak too cowardly to use them.

Glick did raise a key point BB and Barak are scared out of their gourds of the Israeli leftist media and that’s what they fear most, more than Hussein. They both want power for it’s own sake along with greed and personal megalomania.

OK, we might have to pay a steep economic price. So I’ll herd goats till it blows over. No big deal.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24513#more-24513

You can see how utterly subjective is the comment above.

It goes without saying that there is no examination of the real correlation of forces between the US and Israel. For example, where are the American ordinary people, especially the American Christian community, on the issue? Are the Christian Evangelized well organized. What about the American Jews? Where do they stand. And many other issues need to be analysed. But the writer above makes it all subjective in the thought that he will herd goats. Big deal that!

Certainly Glick is right. But the real question to follow up on Glick is “waiting for what”? Who can come to the aid of Israel in this coming periood? That is the central question to which 4international will return