Essentially the issue in Norway is about a cold blooded murderer called Breivik who planted a huge bomb in Oslo (individual terrorism to which Marxists and Trotskyists have always been opposed, whether done by the Provisional IRA or Breivik it is all the same to us…we oppose this under each and every condition without any exception). Using the same murderous method Breivik continued his murder spree by mowing down children and youth attending a labourist youth gathering on an island. All Marxists and Trotskyists historically opposed this sort of thing and we do today, totally and completely.


There is also the situation in the world today of severe economic crisis in capitalism, causing deep political crisis


Looking at this general world economic crisis in a general sense, what do we see? One thing that is very obvious is that the ruling capitalist classes in their governments have been lining up alongside of Islam, even as Islam is always intent on Jihad. It is in the very nature of Islam to be on its Jihad. It is written deeply into the very foundational documents of Islam. Does that mean that all Muslims are on a violent Jihad? It does not, but it certainly means that a significant number of Muslims are supporters of a violent Jihad. And they are supported and defended by capitalism.


Pamela Geller is now being attacked by these very capitalist forces who are in union with the Islamic Jihad. It is an ideological issue. These defenders of capitalism are attacking Geller. They are trying to close down Geller and to close down the whole of the movement which holds the political view that Islam is a very reactionary ideology.


Geller hints at but does not make the leap that we on 4international did and do, that the Jihad is being used by very dark forces within capitalism. Geller remains a firm believer in capitalism as a system.


We saw these dark forces in the destruction of Yugoslavia.


First the CIA was the spearhead behind the Nazi Tudjman and was directly implicated in the worst crime since the Nazis, the driving of Serbs and the murder of Serbs in the Krajina region of Croatia.


Then the alliance of western capitalism with Izetbegovic in Bosnia. Then in Kosovo. Then the bombing of Serbia, all actions involving a great Lie campaign, centred on Srebrenica, Racak.

More recently the open alliance with Qaradawi and the Muslim Brotherhood against anti Jihadists like Mubarak and gadhafi




…At the same time this was going on, the constant if you like, the Jews of Israel were being attacked time and again, and threatened, by having a Jihadist state called Palestine to be erected on their flank.


Indeed the main plotters in this regard were the Norwegian labourites, and the Norwegian so-called peaceniks, in what became known as the Oslo Accords, the result of which was the political and theoretical disarming of the Jews, and the massacre of thousands of Jews on the streets of Israeli cities and towns in the 90s, and the more Jews were murdered the more these Norwegian peace people were blaming the Jews.


So at the very least this calls for sensible people to have a close look at the history of the Norwegians, especially their role in the Holocaust, and at history in general


I repeat at the risk of boring…we are talking here all the time about particular ideological roots.


It is at this time that this particular attack has come upon Geller, and this attack is from a Jew onto another Jew.


Try to follow the argument of this guy Goldberg here. The content is a bit confusing because he laces his attack on Geller with some comments from Geller (I have placed Geller in italics to make it easier)


On Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Other Jihadists

By Jeffrey Goldberg

Jul 25 2011, 9:05 AM ET

I’m away, and it’s hard to keep up with the news, but it seems as if my arch-nemesis Pamela Geller is in a bit of a pickle because she and her partner-in-Muslim-bashing, Robert Spencer, were favorites of the Norway killer. (Btw, I call her my arch-nemesis, but I’m grateful to her for calling me what I believe to be the best epithet ever, “Jewicidal Jihadi.” Also, “Jihad Jeffro.” All I’ve ever come up with to describe her is “shrieking bigot,” which doesn’t have the same power, or alliterative quality.) Here’s The Times on Geller, and Geller’s delightful response:

Mr. Breivik’s declaration did not name Mr. Kaczynski or acknowledge the numerous passages copied from the Unabomber’s 1995 manifesto, in which the Norwegian substituted “multiculturalists” or “cultural Marxists” for Mr. Kaczynski’s “leftists” and made other small wording changes.

By contrast, he quoted the American and European counterjihad writers by name, notably Mr. Spencer, author of 10 books, including “Islam Unveiled” and “The Truth About Muhammad.”

Mr. Breivik frequently cited another blog, Atlas Shrugs, and recommended the Gates of Vienna among Web sites. Pamela Geller, an outspoken critic of Islam who runs Atlas Shrugs, wrote on her blog Sunday that any assertion that she or other antijihad writers bore any responsibility for Mr. Breivik’s actions was “ridiculous.”

“If anyone incited him to violence, it was Islamic supremacists,” she wrote.

(The above is anything but clear, from this great journalist Goldberg. I think he is counterposing the New York Times and Geller’s response)

Anyway Goldberg goes on to lay down his position clearly. He uses this tragedy for these labour children to knife Geller, remember that, and he is Jewish:


Goldblog’s position: Geller is a hatemonger, but she didn’t pull the trigger. Free speech means free speech. But she should be aware now that violent people look to her for guidance, and she should write with that in mind. Which brings me to the subject of the Murfreesboro, Tennessee, mosque, the new “Ground Zero mosque” controversy. People like Herman Cain, who vilify this mosque (and other mosques) should think carefully about the ways in which their words are heard. I worry about a violent reaction to the Tennessee mosque more than I worry about any other terrorism target in America. More on this later, when I have better access to the Web.


So Goldberg blames Geller for this murderer being born!


He is knifing Geller in the back and above all he is calling for the curtailing of the discussion on everything that matters


Who in this world want to defeat the necessary airing of views? the nazis that is who.


The action of Hitler and the Nazis on taking the power in 1933, largely thanks to the betrayals of the social democrats and the Stalinists, was to curtail (STOP LIQUIDATE END MOST DEFINITIVELY) THE POLITICAL DISCUSSION INSIDE GERMANY)


There is a real Nazi Movement developing but it has nothing to do with Breivik or any other individual terrorist. Please help. Please work to defend Pamela Geller and defend the right of free discussion.