NEED FOR OPEN AND FAIR DISCUSSION TO FIGHT AGAINST ANTISEMITISM

The discussion on the very important Israpundit site has been hijacked by a clique surrounding a person calling himself Yamit82, also involved is a person calling himself Bernard Ross and there are others, all forming an obvious clique.

 

This is indeed sad because there is need for open and fair discussion at this time.

 

The editor Ted Belman is clearly not in agreement with this clique. Belman performs a very useful service by airing a wide range of topics on Israpundit but discussion has now become arguably impossible.

 

You can see this clearly on http://www.israpundit.com/archives/63592654/comment-page-1#comments

 

Anyway I wanted to make that clear to our readers on http://www.4international.me

 

I wanted to send all our support to Ted Belman and Israpundit. We have the same aim which is for Jews to be able to live unmolested by Antisemitism.

 

One of the strange themes that this clique on Israpundit developed in recent years (which was pushed especially by Robinson) was that the Arab Spring and all the in-fighting among Arabs actually, he said, strengthened Israel.

 

Robinson kept on at this week after week.

 

This also led to a strengthening of the Yamit82 person who called for Israel to take up no position on Egypt, that is not to defend Mubarak, leading on to not supporting General el-Sisi in his present suppression of the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

We on 4international thought all of this most strange. Why should Israel not state openly its open and bold support for the suppression of the Muslim Brotherhood, and do so from a position of INDEPENDENCE!

 

How could Israel being encircled by Fascist Muslim Brotherhood states not weaken Israel, endanger Israel!

 

In fact read any article on Jihadwatch or on Pamela Geller´s Atlas Shrugs and you will see the opposite to Robinson…they are most worried for Israel.

 

As just today this on Pamela Geller´s Atlas Shrugs shows that she is most worried!

 

 

 

 

And the war in Syria spreads to Lebanon. Soon it will engulf the whole Middle East.

Nabil Mounzer / EPA

“Ex-ambassador to US killed in Lebanon bomb blast; four others slain,” NBC News, December 27, 2013

A car bombing in the Lebanese capital Friday targeted a key opponent to Syrian President Bashar Assad. NBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin reports. By Mustafa Kassem and Alastair Jamieson, NBC News

SUPPORT THE ARMY IN EGYPT AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

English: Muslim brotherhood military man in Eg...

English: Muslim brotherhood military man in Egypt مؤسس تنظيم الظباط الأحرار في مصر (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The situation in Egypt is now absolutely critical. On one side is the Army led by General el Sisi, on the other is the Muslim Brotherhood, founded by Qutb. Qutb was the associate of Hajj Amin el Husseini, leader of the Palestinian Arabs. That fact is critical. More on this site later about el Husseini and what his bearing is today on the PLO and Hamas, and the way Israel must fight.

4international supports the army in a very critical although unconditional manner against the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

It happens very often in political struggle that you have to take sides. In this issue there is absolutely no way to sit on the fence and hope things will blow over.

You must come out in the open and state your position.

The majority of Egyptian society is pro Sharia and is Antisemitic. This is a fact. Yet the army is clamping down on the Muslim Brotherhood of Qutb. This clamping down in every respect is totally progressive.

On that issue you cannot sit on the fence.

What the following article by Atlas Shrugs poses is the question: What is Islam? Is Islam a religión? In one sence it is of course. But underneath that religión is an ideology that is not a religión at all, but more a method of repression, with an aim to control the world.

All of this has to be stated clearly in the struggle to educate a generation of fighters for socialism.

Pamela Geller is opposed to socialism, communism, Leninism, Trotskyism. But that does not mean that she is not very correct about Islam and Sharia.

On one thing we on 4international disagree with Pamela…there can be no possibility of a reform of Islam. We are sure there can not! Whatever that means we have to go with.

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Muslim Mob Throws 15-Year-old Christian Girl
Off Building Roof

Obama is punishing the Egyptians for rejecting these Islamic supremacists. Sharia should be banned. The US should not give one cent of aid to any country living under the sharia. That’s not radical, that’s human.

Obama backed Muslim Brotherhood supporters who “reject the entire amendment process and are likely to launch” violence against it.

Muslims Take Young Girl And Throw Her Off A Building By Theodore Shoebat, November 30, 2013
Muslims in a village of southern Minya province charged at Christian homes, and put 10 houses to the flames. They wounded 14 Christians, and the mob also took a 15 year-old girl and threw her down from the third floor of a building, injuring her severely.

“Egypt Islamists rally to defy protest law” By Yakima Herald, November 30, 2013
CAIRO — Egyptian security forces firing tear gas and water cannons on Friday broke up anti-government demonstrations by Islamists defying a draconian new law restricting protests.

Authorities are seeking to put down unrest by both Islamists and secular activists as a government-appointed assembly tries to finish a final draft on an amended constitution by early next week. The draft has raised criticism from democracy advocates for increasing powers of the military and president.

Since a popularly backed military coup ousted Islamist President Mohammed Morsi in July, his supporters have been staging near-daily protests calling for his reinstatement. The rallies have often descended into street clashes with security forces or civilians.

To quash pro-Morsi rallies, which have persisted despite a heavy security crackdown, the military-backed government issued the law Sunday banning protests without a police permit. On Thursday, a student was killed when police put down a march by Islamists from Cairo University.

Instead, the law has sparked new protests by Egypt’s secular activists, who had been largely muted since the ouster of Morsi. They accuse the government of giving free rein to police abuses and military power that they had aimed to end with the 2011 uprising that toppled longtime autocrat Hosni Mubarak.

They say the law aims to silence all dissent — particularly ahead of a nationwide referendum on the amended constitution expected in January.

The past week, security forces have forcefully broken up several protests by secular activists in Cairo. Police also arrested one of the top secular activists, Alaa Abdel-Fattah, on Thursday for allegedly inciting protests in violation of the law. His wife, Manal Bahy Eldin, also an activist, said police beat her during the arrest.

On Friday, prosecutors ordered Abdel-Fattah detained for four days for investigation, according to Mohammed Abdel Aziz, a member of his legal defense team.

A 50-member panel is amending the Morsi-era constitution drafted mainly by Islamists and passed in December. After months of sessions, largely held behind closed doors, the panel is scheduled to vote on a final draft Saturday — but one member, liberal political Mohammed Aboul-Ghar said it may be delayed until Sunday as final controversial articles are worked out.

The panel is supposed to finish its work by Tuesday, under a declaration issued by interim President Adly Mansour soon after the July 3 coup.

The pending referendum could further fuel a backlash. The Islamists reject the entire amendment process and are likely to launch protests against it. Secular activists, meanwhile, are likely to hold their own protests against a charter they say will enshrine military power in politics.

One amendment requires the military’s approval of the president’s choice for defense minister. The measure effectively allows the military to choose its own leader, giving it considerable independence from the elected, civilian president.

Another article, preserved from the Morsi-era constitution, allows for civilians to be tried in military courts in cases connected to violence toward military facilities or personnel.

Aboul-Ghar said the panel had agreed to remove a controversial article inserted into the 2012 constitution that critics feared would allow a stricter implementation of Shariah law in Egypt.

The article gave a stronger definition to the term “principles of Islamic law,” on which Article 2 of the document says legislation must be based. Article 2, which has been in the constitution since the 1970s, will remain in place.

Islamist supporters of Morsi held their latest rallies around the country and in multiple parts of Cairo, most of them numbering in the hundreds. Ten people were wounded in clashes and 183 arrested, according to emergency services and the Interior Ministry.

In Cairo’s twin city of Giza, police fired volleys of tear gas to disperse protesters, who burned tires, according to footage of the scene from Associated Press TV. Anti-Islamist residents joined security forces in chasing the Morsi supporters, hurling stones and bottles at them.

Police fired tear gas or water cannons on other Islamist marches in Cairo, the Mediterranean city of Alexandria and the canal city of Suez.

In one protest in eastern Cairo, Islamists chanted, “Down with all killers, down with Abdel-Fattah” referring to army chief Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who ousted against Morsi.

“We don’t care about the protest law whatsoever,” said Ashraf Abdel-Wahhab, who was participating in a Cairo protest with his wife and eight children. “This is not the first time they attack marches or kill protesters. It’s just a cover that they’re using.”

Secular activists did not hold rallies Friday, aiming to avoid association with the Islamists. The activists oppose the Islamists, seeing them as equally undemocratic as the new government — and are wary of being tainted as pro-Brotherhood at a time when a large swath of the public remains eager to crush Islamists.

“Friday is the Brotherhood’s day,” Mohammed Adel, a leading member of the secular activist group April 6, told the AP. “Even if we had the same cause, we will not protest with them.”

Meanwhile, Muslim residents of a village in southern Minya province attacked Christian homes, burning 10 houses and wounding 15 Christians, including a 15 year-old girl thrown from the third floor of a building, according to Ezzat Ibrahim, an activist who monitors minority rights.

Ibrahim said the attack was instigated by rumors of a love affair between a local Christian man and a Muslim woman — a factor that can often spark sectarian clashes.

FROM KOSOVO TO SYRIA…THE HEAD SLICERS AND THROAT CUTTERS OF ISLAM

hoto 2)Saudi/Afghan-Arab mujahedeen with decapitated heads of Bosnian Serb POWs in 1992. Al-Qaeda funded and organized these early terrorist attacks against Bosnian Serbs.

http://4international.me/2012/06/11/tudjman-the-croatian-ustashe-nazi-genocide-of-krajina-serbs-part-2-2/

“I saw a scene of utter cruelty”: Eyewitness account of Syrian jihadists beheading a foe

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ROBERT SPENCER INTRODUCES THIS ARTICLE IN THIS WAY…”The idea that we would even be considering aiding these jihadis, and are already giving them weapons, is unconscionable. It will forever be a blot on the history of the United States. Even if Islamic supremacists write those histories, the theme of this chapter will be the spectacular success of their disinformation campaign in the U.S., and how they got the U.S. Government to come to the aid of al-Qaeda within twelve years of 9/11.”

ROBERT SPENCER HAS ALREADY MADE THE CENTRAL POINT WHICH IS THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IF OBAMA AND CAMERON HAD NOT ENCOURAGED TOTALLY THE ISLAMIC JIHADISTS AGAINST ASSAD

INDEED JUST AS BILL CLINTON HAD ENCOURAGED THE ISLAMIC JIHADISTS OF IZETBEGOVIC IN BOSNIA…SEE THE PHOTO AT TOP…

THE AMERICAN MAGAZINE “TIME” HAS COVERED THIS. NOTE THAT TIME DISTORTS THE SITUATION. IT IS NOT ASSAD AND HIS GOVERNMENT WHICH DID THE BEHEADING. IT IS THE AL QAEDA WHICH OBAMA AND CAMERON INTRODUCED INTO LIBYA. KEEP THAT IN MIND. EQUIVOCATION IS THE GREAT ENEMY OF TRUTH.

THERE IS NO SENSE OF EQUIVOCATION INT HE POSITION OF WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME. WE DEFENDED THE SERBS AGAINST JIHAD AND NOW WE DEFEND THE ALAWITES AND SYRIAN CHRISTIANS AGAINST JIHAD

“Witness to a Syrian Execution: ‘I Saw a Scene of Utter Cruelty,’” by Patrick Witty in Time, September 12 (thanks to Anne Crockett):

All wars are vicious, but the civil war in Syria seems every day to set new standards for brutality. As the fighting rages in its third year, increasing numbers of atrocities are committed by soldiers and fighters from forces loyal to the regime of President Bashar Assad, as well as armed rebels and Islamic militants from the numerous, loosely aligned groups opposing Assad. The violence is frequently sectarian in nature, with fighters claiming they act in defense of their faith, be it Sunni, Alawite, Shiite or any of the other sects that contribute to Syria’s religious landscape.

The perpetrators of atrocities themselves often use digital cameras or smartphones to photograph or film their acts of torture and murder, uploading the images to the Internet. These images and videos are used for propaganda, and their authenticity is often impossible to verify. It is very rare that a group of fighters from either side gives a professional photojournalist from a country outside Syria full and unfettered access to chronicle an atrocity as it unfolds. The images above are products of that access.

What follows is a harrowing series of photographs of Islamic militants publicly executing, by decapitation, a young Syrian in the town of Keferghan, near Aleppo, on August 31, 2013.

Because of the danger in reporting inside Syria, it was not possible to confirm the identity or political affiliation of the victim. Nor are we certain about the motivation of his killers. One eyewitness who lives in the area and was contacted by TIME a week after the beheadings said that the executioners were from ISIS, an Al-Qaeda franchise operating in Syria and Iraq.

 

ROBERT SPENCER HERE ADDS WITH IRONY…”Yes, their motivation is an utter and absolute mystery.”

TIME obtained the images exclusively from a photographer who was recently in Syria. This decapitation was the last of four executions he documented that day. TIME has agreed not to publish the photographer’s name,  to protect him from repercussions when he returns to Syria. What follows is an edited account of his experience:

The man was brought in to the square. His eyes were blindfolded. I began shooting pictures, one after the other. It was to be the fourth execution that day I would photograph. I was feeling awful; several times I had been on the verge of throwing up. But I kept it under control because as a journalist I knew I had to document this, as I had the three previous beheadings I had photographed that day, in three other locations outside Aleppo.    The crowd began cheering. Everyone was happy. I knew that if I tried to intervene I would be taken away, and that the executions would go ahead. I knew that I wouldn’t be able to change what was happening and I might put myself in danger.

    I saw a scene of utter cruelty: a human being treated in a way that no human being should ever be treated. But it seems to me that in two and a half years, the war has degraded people’s humanity. On this day the people at the execution had no control over their feelings, their desires, their anger. It was impossible to stop them.

    I don’t know how old the victim was but he was young. He was forced to his knees. The rebels around him read out his crimes from a sheet of paper. They stood around him. The young man was on his knees on the ground, his hands tied. He seemed frozen.

    Two rebels whispered something into his ear and the young man replied in an innocent and sad manner, but I couldn’t understand what he said because I don’t speak Arabic.

    At the moment of execution the rebels grasped his throat. The young man put up a struggle. Three or four rebels pinned him down. The man tried to protect his throat with his hands, which were still tied together. He tried to resist but they were stronger than he was and they cut his throat. They raised his head into the air. People waved their guns and cheered. Everyone was happy that the execution had gone ahead….

THE THREAT TO ISRAEL FROM A NUCLEAR IRAN GROWS THANKS TO OBAMA

IT IS TOO CLEAR

Israel and the Jews of Israel are being threatened as never before, comparable only to Hitler and the Holocaust. You will remember that all of the nations of the world especially Britain and America refused to allow Jewish emigration to escape the Holocaust. It is very like that today. The Jews have set up their Homeland in Israel but they are being isolated AGAIN by Obama and Cameron. This new threat of new Holocaust takes the form of Obama BACKING a Nuclear Armed Iran, which also means a Nuclear backed Muslim Brotherhood!

THE LEFT

Understand what the left is. It is NOT Trotskyist. It is a ragbag and is more influenced by Stalinist and Revisionist thoughts.

The left is bitterly the enemy of Israel, that is ISRAEL THE Jewish HOMELAND

Why would the left be opposed to the Jewish Homeland? Because the left has become totally Antisemitic. This was led by the Moscow Stalinists following the 1967 war, which was a defensive war by the Jews of Israel, to defend their country from Egypt’s Nasser and other Arab countries which were attacking…HISTORY SPEAKS FOLKS…

BUT…

If the left is antisemitic what then?
The answer to this is that this left which is antisemitic is not Trotskyist, that means not based on the Lenin and Trotsky principles of socialist revolution.

CONCLUSION FROM THE PRESENT LEFT BEING ANTISEMITIC

1. This antisemitic left is no use to workers and it is no use to Jews in such danger as we describe
2. A new alternative must be built
3. That alternative is already well underway
4. How do we know? We know this because of all the political groups and individuals in the world only http://www.4international.me has called it correctly on the Jihadist cum Imperialist war on Yugoslavia, and on the Muslim Brotherhood drive to Fascism inside the Arab Spring which was obviously directed by Imperialism

WHERE PAMELA GELLER AND ROBERT SPENCER GO WRONG

They go wrong and seriously because they are STILL placing their faith in a capitalist system which is in its death agony. What part of “death agony” pamela and Robert do you not understand?

It was Leon Trotsky who described this stage of the capitalist system as being the “death agony of capitalism”

Please tell me this then the two of you and I narrow the focus to make it understandable: Why is the unemployment among young people in Spain about 60 per cent, not getting better but growing? Why are animals such as the tiger and lion being wiped out in the world? What is this system which cannot guarantee the existence of such species?

V ery simple questions Geller and Spencer please answer and urgently.

WHERE THE PRESENT ISRAELI RULING ELITE, LIKE NETANYAHU, GO SO SERIOUSLY WRONG

Like Geller and Spencer they place their trust in the same world capitalist system. Hell Netanyahu even places his trust in Obama who is coming to Israel in a week or so to ram home upon the Israelis this Nuclear Iran and this Nuclear Power which the Muslim Brotherhood will have.

They lead the Jews of the world in supporting and defending capitalism

netanyahu often comes under attack from the left and in that case we defend Netanyahu from the left. An example of this is a Jewish man called Barrie Nathan on the talk radio europe station and this Jewish man Nathan is always attacking Netanyahu because Nathan would prefer Livni or somebody.

No barrie Nathan the fault is not with the Jews the fault is with the “Palis” and the left who want to have Israel obliterated and Jews homeless which adds up to Genocide of the Jews.

We will defend all Jews under attack from Antisemitism. Barrie Nathan why do you not do sol and you call yourself a Jew. What gives Barrie Nathan?

BUT MOST OF ALL THE FIGHT IS PRIMARILY AGAINST THE STALINIST AND REVISIONIST LEFT

This means in concrete terms the building of 4international.meI

Please urgently help and urgently get in touch. It is not hard write to me below and sign private…no problemo!

OBAMA IN REALITY CALLED FOR THE DEATH TO MUBARAK AND WILL CONTINUE THIS ROAD

THE FOLLOWING IS A PIECE FROM THE BBC SOME TIME AGO

(START EXTRACT HERE)

Mark Mardell Saturday, 12 February 2011

Barack Obama looked supremely happy making his speech on the exit of Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak. It was not just that he could complete the one he had started prematurely yesterday. It was not just that, despite all the brickbats that have been thrown at the White House for clumsy handling of this crisis, the administration has got exactly what it has wanted for a couple of weeks: the exit of Mr Mubarak, the entry of the military as caretakers, the promise of democracy, and the absence of violence.

It is more personal, and more political than that. Maybe it is the old community organiser in him, maybe it is the admiring, almost envious, student of the great civil rights leaders, but something tells me few things light him up more than seeing ordinary people overcoming obstacles to seize their own future.

This triumph allowed Mr Obama to revert to the visionary candidate of the campaign, as he did in Tucson after a tragedy.

When he talks about the “moral arc of the universe” you know he is in his element. This is what he is best at. Weaving a selection of facts into a simple story that builds into a grand moral narrative that speaks to his greater vision. He instantly cast the Egyptian revolution as part of a pattern.

“While the sights and sounds that we heard were entirely Egyptian, we can’t help but hear the echoes of history – echoes from Germans tearing down a wall, Indonesian students taking to the streets, Gandhi leading his people down the path of justice. As Martin Luther King said in celebrating the birth of a new nation in Ghana while trying to perfect his own, ‘There is something in the soul that cries out for freedom.’ Those were the cries that came from Tahrir Square, and the entire world has taken note.”

The leader of a country and a capital deeply split on vicious partisan lines could talk of people coming together, despite their differences, in one cause:

“We saw people of faith praying together and chanting – “Muslims, Christians, We are one.” And though we know that the strains between faiths still divide too many in this world and no single event will close that chasm immediately, these scenes remind us that we need not be defined by our differences. We can be defined by the common humanity that we share.”

The commander-in-chief of the most powerful military the world has ever known could talk of the power of non-violence:

“Egyptians have inspired us, and they’ve done so by putting the lie to the idea that justice is best gained through violence. For in Egypt, it was the moral force of non-violence – not terrorism, not mindless killing – but non-violence, moral force that bent the arc of history toward justice once more.”

This day of history brings many years of potential problems for this president and those beyond him. The army will probably embark on the sort of reforms people want, but that is not certain. In free and fair elections, the Egyptian people will not necessarily choose leaders who are friendly to the West or to Israel. Other Middle Eastern autocrats may not be delighted at the thought that Mr Obama might want to bend the moral arc of the universe in their direction.

But there is opportunity between these potential problems. Film stars can adopt foreign orphans, Mr Obama has adopted a foreign revolution, and with it a foreign policy narrative that allows him to restate his core manifesto of inspiration and unity…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/obama_adopts_egypts_revolution.html

(SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN THE ABOVE ARE ALSO INTERESTING. THEY SHOW THE COLLISION BETWEEN THOSE WHO WERE SCEPTICAL AND THE RIGHT ON PRO-DEMOCRACY TYPES. BUT THE CARDS WERE STACKED AS THE POLLS SHOWED THE GREAT MAJORITY OF EGYPTIANS WANTED SHARIA…NOW THAT IS DEMOCRACY!!!)

WHEEL FORWARD TO TODAY AND THE SITUATION FACING OBAMA AND AMERICA IS WELL EXPOSED IN THIS EXTRACT FROM TODAY’S JIHADWATCH:

(OPEN LETTER TO OBAMA)

(START EXTRACT)

To President Barack Obama:

Three years ago, I had the honour of meeting you in the White House as part of a delegation of some 50 human rights defenders from around the world. I was one of three rights defenders who were asked to speak during the 40 minutes out of the 90-minute meeting during which you and your advisors were present.

When it was my turn to address those gathered, I urged you to consider the gulf between the content of your speech to the Arab and Islamic worlds in Cairo in June 2009 and the reality of American policy in February 2010, noting that they seemed separated by much more than simply a few months. In Cairo, you promised to stand by peoples of the region and engage with them, but eight months later your administration’s policy was to turn its back on the people and work instead with local regimes. I discussed three examples of this: Palestine, Yemen and Egypt.

Jokingly, you noted that despite being a guest in the White House, I was audacious enough to criticise the president in his presence. I responded that the act required no courage at all in light of what happens when we try to criticise Arab presidents back home, at which the hall erupted in laughter.

After the Egyptian revolution, I met your commendable human rights advisor Samantha Power and told her it was time for a second Cairo speech. At the time, hopes were high that Egyptians would now be able to work to dramatically improve the human rights situation in the country, and that US policy would support Egyptians in achieving these aspirations.

Now, two years later, neither changes to the human rights situation nor to US policy have fulfilled our hopes. Egyptian young people continue to live in frustration due to the deteriorating economic situation and the repeated failure of political processes to represent their demands, despite the sacrifices that they have made for the sake of the revolution and transition to democracy. Young people taking to the streets to express this frustration continue to be met with violence.

In fact, while people often write their last wills in their 60s or 70s, Egyptian youth in their 20s — who would normally be planning their weddings — have been found carrying freshly penned wills while participating in protests. But these wills are not written to pass on material possessions to their relatives, as most of them own nothing of value and can only offer their lives and their aspirations to live a life of dignity in their own country. Rather, these wills dictate the details of their funerals: Which square will the procession proceed from? Which streets will it pass through? What chants should be heard?

Twenty-three-year-old Mohamed Hussein Al-Qarni, administrator of the “Brotherhood Are Liars” Facebook page, will not be the last of these youth to die. He was shot in the neck and chest on 1 February in a side street near the Ittihadiya Presidential Palace. Since December, the palace environs have witnessed the torture of demonstrators by members of the president’s party, the dragging and beating of protesters by security forces in scenes broadcast around the world, and assassinations. Two prominent cases are those of opposition journalist Mohamed Al-Husseini Abu Deif, who was shot in the head 12 December in front of the palace, and that of Amr Saad, 19, who was also shot in the head in front of the palace in the beginning of February. This violence has also been seen in Tahrir Square. On 20 November, 17-year-old Gaber “Jika” Salah, the administrator of the Together Against the Muslim Brothers Facebook page, was shot in the head with a shotgun. On 31 December, 20-year-old Mohannad Samir, a member of the 6 April Movement, was shot in the head with a shotgun and entered a coma for several days before it finally became clear that he would survive.

Rape, which is recognised internationally as a weapon of war, is now used in Egypt as a political weapon to deter opponents from gathering in Tahrir Square. According to multiple testimonies in recent weeks, the assaults differ radically from the forms of sexual harassment prevalent in Egypt in previous years. According to victims and video footage, female protesters are separated from the demonstrations, taken to other locations, and raped, in what appear to be organised, previously planned attacks. The faces of the assailants show no signs of emotion or sexual excitement. The objective appears to be to break the political will of the victims through profound degradation, whether they are raped, sexually mauled, or stripped entirely of their clothes — if they manage to escape the mob. In more than one case, a knife was used to penetrate the victims’ vaginas, and multiple women underwent hysterectomies after being assaulted. In this context, we can understand the attempted rape of a 70-year-old woman known for her political affiliation as well as the sexual assault of a number of men.

Mr President, when I spoke with you in 2010, I asked why the US administration condemns repressive practices in Iran while remaining silent when Arab regimes engage in the same violations. Over recent months, statements by your administration have similarly failed to address violations and have even blamed protesters and victims for violence committed in the context of demonstrations. Indeed, the stances of your administration have given political cover to the current authoritarian regime in Egypt and allowed it to fearlessly implement undemocratic policies and commit numerous acts of repression.

Statements that “Egypt is witnessing a genuine and broad-based process of democratisation” have covered over and indeed legitimised the undemocratic processes by which the Constituent Assembly passed the new constitution, an issue which has in turn led to greatly heightened instability in the country. Calls for “the opposition [to] remain non-violent” and for “the government and security forces [to] exercise self-restraint in the face of protester violence” have allowed the police and the current Egyptian administration to shirk their responsibilities to secure demonstrations and to respond to the demands of the Egyptian people, and have allowed them to place the blame for violence and instability on protesters themselves. Urging “the opposition [to] engage in a national dialogue without preconditions” undermines the ability of the opposition to play a real role in the decision-making processes of the country, as these “dialogues” seldom result in anything more concrete than a photo-op with the president.

Is it a coincidence that the statements issued by your administration reflect the same political rhetoric used by the new authoritarian regime in Egypt? But when these statements come from the world’s superpower — the one most able to have a positive or negative impact on policies in Egypt and the region, not to mention the biggest donor and material supporter of the Egyptian regime for the past 35 years — they become lethal ammunition, offering political protection to perpetrators of murder, torture, brutality and rape.

I do not write you today to ask you to condemn the repressive policies of the current regime, or to ask you to urge President Mohamed Morsi to “cease” using excessive force and violence against Egyptians, even as your administration was so eager to achieve a ceasefire with Hamas to stop hostilities in Gaza. I write you not to ask for troops to protect political protesters in Egypt, or to suspend, freeze, or reduce military or economic aid to my country, or even to impose conditions on that aid. My request is quite modest: that spokespeople and officials in your administration stop commenting on developments in Egypt. This will no doubt spare your administration much time and effort, but more importantly, it may spare more bloodshed in Egypt, as the current regime will no longer enjoy the political cover that the US administration now offers them. Certainly, Egypt has seen enough bloodshed over the last two years, and Egyptians are tired of being punished for their uprising.

When in December I met Michael Posner, assistant secretary of state for human rights and that rare person in your administration who is motivated by human rights concerns, I asked that he pass on this modest request to administration spokespeople: that as long as they cannot speak the truth about what is happening in Egypt, they keep silent.

Mr President, only a few days ago Egyptians celebrated the second anniversary of their revolution. Meanwhile, the regime commemorated the occasion differently: by re-enacting the scenes of violence and brutality seen during the 18 days of the 2011 uprising, adding the new phenomenon of gang rapes. In one week, more than 60 people died in several governorates, and there were dozens of reported gang rapes and assaults. Hundreds of people were arrested and an unknown number abducted. One of them — 23-year-old Mohamed Al-Guindi — reappeared a few days later in a hospital, brutally tortured, and soon died.

Mr President, I fear that the gulf I spoke to you about three years ago is fast filling up with blood. In this context, further American statements supporting the current Egyptian regime will only lead to more Egyptians being beaten, raped, tortured, and killed. Please, ask officials with your administration to stop talking about Egypt for a while, at least until we can bury our dead, comfort their grieving families, treat the victims of rape and torture, find the disappeared, and read the wills of a new generation of young people who plan not for their weddings but for their funerals.

The writer is director of the Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/1328/21/Open-letter-to-President-Obama.aspx

COMMENT ON THIS BY 4INTERNATIONAL:

TOO LATE!
The task of leadership is to be right before and during the event and not after.

I have to say that small as we were out of all the political tendencies in the world no less only 4international, yes this tiny website, took up a correct position on all of these events.

MILOSEVIC defence of against Clinton, the Hague and the Islamist Izetbegovic

BEN ALI IN TUNISIA defence of

GAGHBO defence of

MUAMMAR GADHAFI defence of

MUBARAK defence of

Our defence of all of these dictatorial type leaders AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD was UNCONDITIONAL. It was based on the well known theory (once well known) that in no condition do you allow the Fascist parties and Leaders to take control of state power. Qaradawi, Morsi and such leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood are clearly Fascist, as indeed is Hamas and Fatah!

DEFEND ISRAEL AGAINST THREAT FROM RUSSIA AND SYRIA

MAJOR ESCALATION OF SYRIA WAR AS WAS INEVITABLE

ISRAEL IN HUGE DANGER

4international continually argued that Israeli leaders and all Jews had to defend Ben Ali, Mubarak, Gadhafi and many other leaders against Qaradawi and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had in effect become the leaders and promoters of the Muslim Brotherhood.

To take such a position of unconditional defence against the Muslim Brotherhood meant for Netanyahu to take up an open fight against the policies abroad of Obama, Clinton and the whole US Establishment in both Democratic and Republican. No hope of that happening. The Israel leaders as opposed to Israeli Jews are tied totally to capitalism and imperialism.

That is the tragedy of the Jews.

This applies to Syria and Assad in spades. We said defend Assad unconditionally but be prepared to strike against Assad or anybody who threatens Israel.

This analysis of the recent events completely hidden by BBC World Service over the past 24 hours is provided by http://www.debka.com

“Russia slams Israeli attack on Syria. US forces in Jordan on alert
DEBKAfile Special Report January 31, 2013, 9:51 AM (GMT+02:00) Tags: Israeli Air Force Syria Russia Middle East war buildup US Israeli Air Force F-15 Eagle takes offThe Syrian announcement of an Israeli air strike on a military site near Damascus Wednesday, Jan. 30, drew strong condemnation from Moscow the next day: “Such action if confirmed would amount to unacceptable military interference in the war-ravaged country,” said the statement issued by the Russian Foreign Ministry Thursday. “If this information is confirmed, then we are dealing with unprovoked attacks on targets on the territory of a sovereign country, which blatantly violate the UN Charter and is unacceptable, no matter the motives to justify it.”
Israel has made no comment on the Damascus statement which described in detail an Israeli air strike against a “military research institute” near the capital. Witnesses say it was a plant for manufacturing “unconventional weapons.” The facility was destroyed and two staff members killed.

Lebanese sources later reported a Russian Mig-31 fighter had crossed over Sinai Wednesday in the direction of Israel. It veered west over the Mediterranean after encountering an Israeli warning not to intrude into its air space and continued flying over Lebanon.

debkafile’s military sources say that the only external military force in the eastern Mediterranean region is a fleet of 18 Russian warships, which includes landing-craft – among the largest in the Russian Navy – with 2,000 marines aboard.
According to various Middle East sources, the Syrian report of an Israeli air strike has touched off high military alerts across the region. Syria has put its Golan forces on the Israel border on combat readiness and the Lebanese and Jordanian armies are on alert. So too are the Russian fleet opposite Syria and the Lebanese army.

Our military sources report that Turkish units on the Syrian border are on high preparedness although Ankara played down the reports of the Israeli air strike in Syria, uncomfortable over the fact that the Israeli Air Force was the first external power to intervene directly in the Syrian conflict.

So too are the US air force units stationed at the Turkish Incerlik air base, the US special forces deployed at the Jordanian Mafraq air facility and the American, German and Dutch Patriot missile interceptors deployed in Turkey opposite Syria. Israel has been on high alert since last week.
The prevailing estimate in military and intelligence circles in Washington and NATO capitals is that the Israeli air attack on the Syrian military site near Damascus was but the opening shot for the coming round of military blows they expect to be exchanged in the near future between Israel, Syria and Hizballah, with Iran possibly waiting in the wings for a chance to pitch in” END QUOTE FROM DEBKA HERE

(Russia slams Israeli attack on Syria…http://debka.com/article/22724/Russia-slams-Israeli-attack-on-Syria-US-forces-in-Jordan-on-alert)

WWW.4international.me is a Trotskyist movement in the true spirit of Leon Trotsky. Like Trotsky did in the face of the Holocaust we defend the Jews and Israel, and we oppose the “Palestine State” campaign as a continuation of the Holocaust, and it is that, even though carefully hidden by Left Fascist propaganda.

Like we defended Mubarak unconditionally against the Muslim Brotherhood, Qaradawi and Morsi, now we say defend Assad against the fascist “Rebels”, but strike against Assad and Iran as they threaten the lives of Jews. This is now happening with Syria and the danger of poison gas falling into the hands of Hizbullah, with whom Assad has long been allied with.

This position is both straight forward and complicated but the situation also is not simple.

For reading on Qutb see http://alhittin.com/2011/08/28/an-account-of-the-martyrdom-of-sayyid-qutb/ and also investige Wikipedia

Our analysis of the role of Obama and Clinton follows:

“The policies of Barack Obama have been totally disastrous for the world and this has been the case from him taking power in early 2009. This does not imply that the policies of all previous US governments in my memory were not also disastrous for humanity but the policies of Obama have had a particularly disastrous nature.

This was highlighted by the Obama trip and speech in June 2009 to Cairo University where Obama did a quite amazing and revolutionary (counter) thing, he embraced the Muslim Brotherhood not just in Egypt but in the whole world. When the fanatical Muslim Sayyid Qutb refounded the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in the late 1950s in Egypt he did it as the vanguard of the Islamic Jihad and war on the “Kuffar” or the “Infidel”, which is in particular Christian including Copt, Jew, Hindu and Buddhist. Oh and not forgetting Atheist. Add with a special hatred for the Gay. The act of Obama in June 2009 was part symbolic, part practice. Obama against the wishes of the Government of the country he was visiting invited the Muslim brotherhood which was banned by that (Mubarak) Government into politics and a straight road to power given that the great majority of Egypt according to the Pew Poll of that year wished earnestly for Sharia Law.

Obama in his first speech, in his first foreign trip, in that 4 then to be 8 year term was turning on its head all political life in Egypt since Nasser, who had first befriended Qutb to talk “sense” into his head, then realising the ideology was not to be talked to had him hung from a gallows in Cairo. Obama turned on its head the lesson learned with the murder of Sadat, on which the whole political life of Mubarak was based.

Even then Mubarak did have a chance but that chance could only be taken by a revolutionary leadership and the whole of the left had become corrupted by the “Palestinian” fascist narrative of lies, which was based on the lying narrative that Hajj Amin el Husseini did not exist and had never been heard of, and that the Arabs in 1948 were not out to complete the Holocaust (genocide of the Jews) Therein lies the tragedy. That is how Obama corrupted the American role. But that road had been prepared for him by Clinton in Yugoslavia. No wonder his main weapon became Mrs Clinton who strides around the world scene lioke your worst ever nightmare.” END OUR ANALYSIS OF ROLE OF OBAMA

Many words will now be spoken. Russia has correctly backed Assad and Gadhafi against the US and Britain. Israel and its leaders acted like frightened rabbits and did not take a position.

Now Israel is forced to act to defend itself and Russia is attacking Israel for doing this.

Israel HAD TO defend itself against all of these Antisemites in the Arab world and Assad is one. But Israel also had to defend Mubarak, Gadhafi and Assad against the Muslim Brotherhood takeover.

There is the complexity. It comes out of both the weakness of Israeli leaders, and also at the same time out of the ever present Antisemitism in this world.

In the final analysis we stand with Israel, in defence of Israel, in defence of Jews, and in defence of the national lineration theory of Zionism. That makes us unique on the left, the only ones in fact to do this. Write your comment below.

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS FASCIST AND THAT IS TRADITIONAL MARXIST VIEW

 EGYPT WATCH…MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS FASCIST

IN THE FACE OF GREAT LYING ABOUT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD 4INTERNATIONAL IS DOCUMENTING THE TRUTH

 

 

“Egyptian Cleric Hashem Islam Issues Fatwa Permitting the Killing of Anti-Morsi Demonstrators,” from MEMRI, n.d.:

 

Following are excerpts from a TV show, posted on the Internet on August 14, 2012, in which Egyptian cleric Hashem Islam, a member of the Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, issues a fatwa against potential demonstrators on August 24, and from a later TV show, which aired on Dream 1 TV on August 15.

The Internet, August 14, 2012:

Hashem Islam: The revolution planned for August 24 is a par excellence revolution of kharijite apostasy against democracy and freedom. I am currently working on a relevant fatwa.

[...]

The legitimate president is Dr. Mohamed Morsi, and anyone who goes out [to protest] on August 24 will be revolution against the January 25 Revolution, and will be committing the crimes of hiraba and high treason against the country, against Allah, against his messenger, and against the believers.

Therefore, I convey the following fatwa to the Egyptian people: Confront these people, and if they fight you, fight them. Oh people of Egypt, confront these people, and if they fight you, fight them. If some of you are killed by them, you will go to Paradise, and if you kill them, no “blood money” will be warranted, because their killing is permissible. Allah’s mercy and blessings upon you….

 

 

 

Egypt’s Jihad Organizations Call for Christian Genocide

{FROM JIHADWATCH}According to today’s issue of El Fegr, “Elements of terrorist, jihadi organizations distributed leaflets today inciting for the killing of Copts in Suez, Ismailia, and Upper Egypt, promising them [Copts] a tragic end if they do not return to the truth.”

An image of a copy of the letter appears on El Fegr’s website. Titled “An Urgent and Important Notice,” it begins by calling on “all brothers and sisters” to “kill or physically attack the enemies of the religion of Allah—the Christians in all of Egypt’s provinces, the slaves of the Cross, Allah’s curse upon them…”

It proceeds to promise a monetary reward for whoever helps “achieve Allah’s rights against his enemies.”

 

As a testimony to how safe the jihadi organizations of today’s Egypt feel under the new president, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Muhammad Morsi, the usual cryptic language is dropped, as the letter names contact points and even a mosque, Sheikh Ahmed Mosque in Kasfrit, where those interested should rally “after Friday prayers where new members to the organization will be welcomed.”

This genocide has been called until Egypt’s Christians “return to the truth,” a reference apparently meaning that Egypt’s Christians must either embrace “the truth”—that is, Islam, which they must convert to—or else return to the truths of the religion, which holds that Christians must embrace their subhuman dhimmi status (Koran 9:29).

Both forced conversions and dhimmi status for Christians are a regular feature of Egypt’s landscape, past and present.
Subsequent news reports cite the growing fear and terror among Egypt’s Christian population.

Posted by Raymond on August 14, 2012

 

 

BREAKING TREATIES…A GREAT TREACHERY

{FROM JIHADWATCH} “Morsi ‘to Make Changes in Camp David Accords,’” by Gil Ronen for Arutz Sheva, August 14 (thanks to Voice of the Copts):

Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi will discuss, in coming days, making changes in the Camp David Accord signed with Israel. The changes will allow Egypt “to implement its full sovereignty over the Sinai Peninsula.”

 

The Camp David Accord was in essence about making peace with the Jews, and also partly being bribed by the US, and also through this the US building up a large army in Egypt to use against Israel. It was peace of a kind, and a cold peace at that. But Morsi is 180 degrees different.

 

 

The Muslim Brotherhood is 100 degrees immersed in Antisemitism

 

 

It cannot be otherwise because the origin of Islam was based on the massacre of Jews. And the Muslim Brotherhood is (Antisemi

 

 

 

THE CHRISTIAN COPTS IN GREAT DANGER

{FROM ATLAS SHRUGS-PAMELA GELLER}

“This is Obama’s legacy, the malignancy of his anti-freedom, pro-jihad foreign policy. American history is forever stained with our tacit sanction of the persecution, slaughter, and oppression of non-Muslim minorities in countries we helped enslave. We will live with this for generations, and our children will pay an unimaginable price.

This is our nightmare, and he is the nightmare of freedom-loving peoples across the world”.

“U.S. ignores abuse of Christian women in Egypt” Washington Times, August 14, 2012 (thanks to David)

[....] Coptic Christian women are routinely victimized and forcibly converted by Muslims in Egypt, Miss Ghaly says.

In its annual Religious Freedom Report, released July 30, the U.S. State Department acknowledged the problem, but at the same time appeared to downplay it. The report described forcible conversions as “disputed,” asserting that while there were “occasional claims” of Muslim men forcing Coptic women (and sometimes girls younger than legal age) to convert to Islam, these accounts “often included inflammatory allegations and categorical denials of kidnapping and rape.”

Miss Ghaly has no faith in the current U.S. administration. “I feel that politically the United States will look after its own interests,” Miss Ghaly said. “I feel that they favor the Muslim Brotherhood and [Egyptian President Mohammed] Morsi more than the human rights of the Copts.”

Miss Ghaly has devoted the past 15 years to researching the problem of forced conversion in Egypt. In 2004, she teamed up with John Eibner, president of Christian Solidarity International, a human rights organization that has focused on the maltreatment of Christians and other religious minorities in the Middle East.

Mr. Eibner introduced Miss Ghaly to anti-trafficking activist Michelle Clark. Ms. Clark, an adjunct professor with the Elliott School of International Affairs at George Washington University, is former head of the Anti-Trafficking Assistance Unit at the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

The women wrote two reports for Christian Solidarity International on the forced conversion issue, the latest released last month. The State Department report mentioned their July study, but said “local human rights groups were unable to verify such cases.”

The report’s co-authors took issue with this. “They do not believe reports and findings such as this one, but they believe Muslims who say that these stories are full of lies,” Miss Ghaly said.

“We stand by the report,” Ms. Clark said. “We did this work through good and professional methodology. We know who we talked to.”

Their research reveals a climate where women and their families are often afraid to talk for fear of Muslim retribution. “We met in hushed rooms and church courtyards because people feel safe there,” Ms. Clark said. “The Coptic community is afraid of any reprisal, afraid of what might happen.”
[...]

Egypt’s Copts are no strangers to discrimination and violence. Church burnings were common during the regime of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. A car bomb last Christmas Eve killed 21 Christians. Since Mr. Mubarak was overthrown, U.S. immigration courts have seen an escalation in Coptic requests for asylum, specifically from Christian women who either escape abduction or fear abduction by Muslim men.

This is happening although the country’s new president, a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood, has pledged to be a “president for all Egyptians,” including Christians. “We will face together the strife and conspiracies that target our national unity,” he said.

Miss Ghaly does not believe President Morsi. Indeed, she believes he will “make things worse for the Copts.” When she visited Egypt recently, she said she saw heightened religious discrimination. She was spat on, insulted and humiliated for wearing a cross, she says.

SUMMING UP

EGYPT WATCH…MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS FASCIST,  BREAKING TREATIES…A GREAT TREACHERY,  THE CHRISTIAN COPTS IN GREAT DANGER

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

According to today’s issue of El Fegr, “Elements of terrorist, jihadi organizations distributed leaflets today inciting for the killing of Copts in Suez, Ismailia, and Upper Egypt, promising them [Copts] a tragic end if they do not return to the truth.”

An image of a copy of the letter appears on El Fegr’s website. Titled “An Urgent and Important Notice,” it begins by calling on “all brothers and sisters” to “kill or physically attack the enemies of the religion of Allah—the Christians in all of Egypt’s provinces, the slaves of the Cross, Allah’s curse upon them…” It proceeds to promise a monetary reward for whoever helps “achieve Allah’s rights against his enemies.”

As a testimony to how safe the jihadi organizations of today’s Egypt feel under the new president, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Muhammad Morsi, the usual cryptic language is dropped, as the letter names contact points and even a mosque, Sheikh Ahmed Mosque in Kasfrit, where those interested should rally “after Friday prayers where new members to the organization will be welcomed.”

This genocide has been called until Egypt’s Christians “return to the truth,” a reference apparently meaning that Egypt’s Christians must either embrace “the truth”—that is, Islam, which they must convert to—or else return to the truths of the religion, which holds that Christians must embrace their subhuman dhimmi status (Koran 9:29).

Both forced conversions and dhimmi status for Christians are a regular feature of Egypt’s landscape, past and present.

Subsequent news reports cite the growing fear and terror among Egypt’s Christian population.

EGYPT…WE TROTSKYISTS DO STAND AGAINST MORSI AND FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM!

 

Ask the question: does one have separation of Church and State in post election Egypt, with Morsi elected as the representative of the Muslim Brotherhood.

It does matter. That is one of the gains of democracy, without that you have some type of clerical religious dictatorship.

 

Of course Morsi will tell the world that there is nothing to fear.

 

Should we take Morsi at his word or should we be sceptical, since the policy of “deceiving” is written right into the Koran as being something which is holy.

 

We have to examine the history of the Muslim Brotherhood, its foundational essence, its history, its present practice, and the latter on an international scale because this organization IS international.

MY CHALLENGE TO THIS POLITICAL GARBAGE OF BELMAN ON THE EGYPTIAN ELECTION TOMORROW

VOTE SHAFIQ!

STOP THE FASCIST MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD TAKING THE PRESIDENCY TOMORROW IN EGYPT!

THESE JEWISH “LEADERS” ARE BETRAYING THE JEWS AND ISRAEL!

 

The election takes place tomorrow in Egypt and we on www.4international.me are making a clear call for on the issue of who Egyptians should vote for.

 

It is a little like the crisis of leadership which allowed Hitler to march straight into power in Germany in 1933. And that destroyed subsequently half of the Jewish people. But these capitalist, reactionary, pro US Empire Jews have learned nothing!

 

I have laid down a challenge on his blog to this political garbage by Belman and others. The NormanF referred to is following the same garbage line, lots of mouth, lacking the guts to take a political position, which is certainly the essence of the posturing of Belman

 

(My challenge to these people in this comment)

 

NormanF

My own organization www.4international.me takes a clear position on tomorrow’s election, we call clearly for Egyptian people to vote for Shafiq and the Army, and against the Muslim Brotherhood in alliance with the US Power Establ;ishment. Do you take a position on this?

Robert Spencer

If you are reading this what position do you take on this election Do you make a call for a vote for Shafiq? That is maybe implied but certainly not clear. You seem to be abstaining seeing the election as meaningless?

Ted Belman

Are you taking no position between Shafiq and the Muslim Brotherhood?

BIGGEST MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD DEMO YESTERDAY IN CAIRO CALLS “ONLY GOD’S WORD IS GREATER THAN A CONSTITUTION”

4international salutes Muammar Gadhafi!

 

It is pretty much the case that war alone on 4international came out from the very beginning and called for the victory to Muammar Gadhafi. This did not imply political programmatic agreement. Just that Gadhafi was fighting the alliance of Imperialism with Islam Imperialism.

 

Now the murder of the Generals shows that Al Qaida does control the “rebels”. Argument over!

 

We were absolutely right. We alone were absolutely right.

 

Switch the scene to Egypt.

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Listen to this yesterday from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt AS THE LARGEST DEMO FILLED CAIRO YESTERDAY

 

The Muslim Brotherhood – Egypt’s best organized political force – and the former terrorist organization Gamaa Islamiya along with disparate Salafist bodies argue that only God’s word is greater than a constitution and that only a parliament chosen by free election can set the terms for a constitution.

 

That was the essence of the massive demo yesterday.

 

The BBC which was and is slavish in support of the ousting of Mubarak yesterday stated from the reporter on the spot that in a new election he reckoned the MB would win 25 to 28 per cent. Why just 28, why not 30, 35…which is heading towards power in government

 

But the modern leftist fascists who plague us say in response (they always have a response) it will not be like the Islam in Iran, it will be more like the Islam in Turkey!!!

 

In the following report the issue of the Coptic Christians comes up yet again. Read it.

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/africa-mideast/cairo-protesters-call-for-an-islamic-state-in-egypt/article2113896/?from=sec431

 

Containing

 

In the largest crowd to fill the square since the popular uprising that ousted President Hosni Mubarak in February, Salafis chanted for the implementation of strict Islamic law — spurring accusations that they violated an agreement to keep the rally free from divisive issues.

They have come in a show of force to demand that the country’s caretaker authority, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, cease its plans to present a set of principles that will form a framework for a new constitution.

Islamist group’s such as the Muslim Brotherhood – Egypt’s best organized political force – and the former terrorist organization Gamaa Islamiya along with disparate Salafist bodies argue that only God’s word is greater than a constitution and that only a parliament chosen by free election can set the terms for a constitution. These groups stayed away from recent demonstrations that sought to keep up pressure on the military council that took power after former president Hosni Mubarak’s fall, leading to smaller crowds.

The groups believe that they will poll enough support to dominate such a parliament and thereby set the terms. They fear that a kind of bill of rights could close off the possibility of a state run by Islamic laws.

HOW THE JEWS CAN DEFEAT OBAMA AND US IMPERIALISM

The excellent DEBKAfile reporting agency has the following piece concerning the current visit of prime Minister Netanyahu to Obama in Washington. It is rivetting and vital knowledge, yet it still does not get to grips with the situation, because it offers no way forward for Jews in terms of leadership

The heading of the Debka report (http://www.debka.com/article/8893/) is that the talks today are stressing nuclear issues, Iran´s and Israel´s. But why should there be even one word spoken about the nuclear weapons of Israel? On the other hand there should be plenty about the nuclear bomb being built by Islam and Iran.
Even the Debka heading shows that for Israel US imperialism is nothing less than the road to destruction.
On this basis alone it would be much better for Netanyahu to refuse to meet with Obama at all. At the very least the agenda should be on the table in advance and every word spoken should be published by Israel.
The extreme minimum would be for Netanyahu to publish a statement in which he lays down the central requirements of the Jews of Israel, following their experience in 1939 to 45, then 48, then 1967 etc.
There is a precedent for this kind of situation. The Russian delegation under Leon Trotsky went to the Brest Litovsk Treaty, (Brest is a city near the Polish border in modern Belarus)
I am not suggesting there is an exact parallel between Israel of today facing Obama, and the newly formed Workers Republic of latye 1917 facing the powers around Germany, with the rest of the rabid Imperialist lands like Britain waiting in the wings, engaged in war to finish off the Workers Republic. But there must be similarities.
Lenin decided that the Workers State could not survive if Germany decided to invade Moscow. They signed in order to gain a breathing space. Once again I am not saying that the position of Netanyahu is so weak as that.
But what is certain is that: It is true that Obama has to be challenged. The question of how and when is also of extreme importance.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was assured of a much friendlier and correct  White House welcome for his fifth encounter with President Barack Obama July 6 – compared with the unmannerly treatment meted out to him on March 23. Still, five time bombs with short fuses are ticking under their seats on issues on which the US president’s internationalist, diplomacy-first attitude is far from Israel’s survivalist, security-first strategic outlook on a number of basic issues. Both will try to overcome their mutual mistrust.
Their respective approaches to Iran’s drive for a nuclear weapon and the future of Israel’s reputed nuclear arsenal are the most combustible of their five topics of discussion. The US and Israel clearly do not see eye on eye on how and when to take action against Iran.

On June 17, defense secretary Robert Gates said Iran was developing the capability to fire scores or hundreds of missiles at Europe. Ten days later, he reported Iran had enough low-enriched uranium to start building two atom bombs within two years. So by the time the new UN sanctions and the complementary measures Obama approved Friday, July 2 start biting and affecting Tehran’s decision-making, the last moment for halting the construction of a nuclear bomb will have come and gone.
On June 28, Adm. Mullen, Chairman of the Joint US Chiefs of Staff commented that the US and Israel are “in sync” over the time needed to find out if the sanctions are working or not.
debkafile’s military sources describe this assertion as a pious hope rather than established fact, because even the US president cannot be absolutely sure Israel will not launch a surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities before it is too late. Until now, he applied the brakes on Israeli action by two means: One by a constant flow of senior American military and intelligence figures to Israel every couple of days and frequent invitations to security minister Ehud Barak and Israeli military leaders to visit the US; second, by a personal presidential pledge to Netanyahu that if Israel holds off from striking Iran, he will continue to back Israel on matters essential to its security.
One such matter is the policy of ambiguity with regard to Israel’s nuclear arsenal, i.e., never confirming its existence.
For Jerusalem, this pledge was cast in doubt by Washington’s decision, against Israeli protests, to support the resolution calling for a nuclear-free Middle East tabled by Egypt for the Arab and Non-Aligned blocs at the Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference that took place in Washington in May. This motion demanded that Israel join the NPT and accept international inspectors of its nuclear facilities. Israel was further angered by the fact that Iran and its nuclear weapons program were not even mentioned in the resolution.

Although US officials explained that a vote for the motion was obligatory given Obama’s comprehensive quest for a world without nuclear weapons. Although Israel’s government and security leaders never said this in so many words, they felt the administration had let them down on a key pledge and freed them of the commitment to refrain from a surprise attack on Iran.

Debka in the above remarks has very clearly explained the situation. There is now deep distrust between all sections of the Israeli Government and all sections of the Obama Regime.

This is indeed something new. No matter how bad the previous Presidents of the US were, the fiction that they would stand by Israel was always, somehow, maintained.

That has been totally torn asunder. The Israeli people, and it is also certain the people around Netanyahu, NO LONGER TRUST THE AMERICAN REGIME OF OBAMA.

Netanuahu is NOT Livni. I read material put about on the net that Netanyahu and Livni are just different forms of poison. This is especially the political line put across by the so called “Jewish” website Israpundit

Such as the following ignorant comment from an obvious ignoramus in the field of political strategy

Actually he is probably a lot better than Livni would have been since she would have been a clone of BHO (Barry Sotero).

BB, Better than Livni is like a choice between Ebola and Anthrax

The above is the depth of analysis on that site!

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24642#comments

What that leaves out, to put it simply so that those dolts can understand, Netanyahu is NOT the same as Livni, because a very serious election has intervened, when the vast majority decided that Livni would no longer be the leader of the Jews, and Netanyahu was put in Livni´s  place BY THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

That kind of confusion by Israpundit, whose political line is as farcical as it is dangerous, has to be consciously opposed.

We on 4international are far from saying that Netanyahu is our hero, but we are saying in opposition to this treacherous Israpundit, that there is a difference between the Netanyahu Government and the previous Livni Government.

As we said above the essence of the matter is distrust. Livni was full of trust for the Arabs, before she led in the pulling of Jewish civilians and military from the Gaza. Livni also trusted Sharon and Bush.

The great gain of the Debka analysis is that it pinpoints that this trust is no longer there between the Israelis and the American Government. This is not a small matter in the whole post 1948 relations between these two pivotal states.

The Israeli prime minister and US president, in their talks Tuesday, must therefore forge a new “nuclear accord” governing both Iran and Israel.

*(Here I must confess I do not understand the Debka method, or are they being a little ironic. As they said already the trust is gone)

Assent on this question could ease the discord on four other key issues:
1.  Netanyahu says the “proximity talks,” formally started two months ago, have never really taken off, and progress on the topics at issue with the Palestinians demand direct talks for which he is fully prepared at any moment and for which Mahmoud Abbas has pre-conditions. The Israeli prime minister will discuss with the US president various formats for getting this dialogue on track, including a US-Saudi “Marshall Plan” for a Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza Strip that came up during Saudi King Abdullah’s visit to the White House on June 29.

2.   They will also explore ways for Israel to go back to construction in Jerusalem and the West Bank settlements, even nominally, after the 10-month freeze expires on Sept. 26 to ease the pressure on Netanyahu at home. Several Knesset factions held off until after the prime minister’s White House visit a bill requiring the government to seek a parliamentary majority for any further suspension of construction. The US will demand closer monitoring of any future freeze.

The idea of seeking a majority before there is any future suspension of building in the “settlements”. Things in Israel move slowly but they do move. Reminds one of the English revolutionaries in the Cromwellian revolution. This issue alone is the most fundamental. At stake is the fact that to satisfy Abbas there will have to be at least 300,000 Jews moved out of the “West Bank” so that these Muslims can have their Muslim only statelet (like Bosnia, like Kosovo, like Armenia etc)

3.  The crisis between Turkey and Israel. So far, Washington had avoided guaranteeing to withhold its support from a UN Assembly motion calling for an international commission to probe the flotilla incident in which Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish vessel leading a convoy for breaking Israel’s Gaza blockade and ended in a clash in which 9 Turkish activists were killed and 6 Israelis injured.
Israel’s eased embargo on civilian goods to Gaza was widely welcomed.

The two leaders will explore a possible joint US-Israeli stand against Turkish Prime Minister Tayyep Recip Erdogan in view of his deepening bonds with the Tehran-Damascus-Hizballah-Hamas bloc.

4.  They will also discuss how the US and Israel can work together against the continued flow of heavy weaponry, including ballistic missiles, from Syria to the Lebanese Shiite terrorist Hizballah.

 

At the start of this month Caroline Glick came closest to the position of Trotsky and Lenin in the Brest Litovsk treaty talks

(By the way, the very first thing which Trotsky did when he made his appearance at the talks, he being preceded by other Russian members of the team, was to end the cosy and friendly relations with the Germans. Little things, like insisting that the Russian team had a separate place to have their tea breaks etc, on the basis that there were issues that needed to be discussed, were not little things at all. At the same time Trotsky was eyeing up the opposition, to see who were the front men, and to understand who were the real powers on the German side, concluding that it was the German Army High Command, not even at the conference. Netanyahu needs to have the same formality established)

It is on the issue of the inter play of respective forces that Glick is so correct and well worth listening to:

What this means is that Netanyahu is well placed to stand up to Obama’s pressure. If he plays his cards wisely, he can say no to Obama and avoid an open confrontation. For instance, instead of agreeing to extend the building prohibition, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to discuss that demand in face-to-face negotiations with Abbas. Rather than agree to Abbas’s preconditions, Netanyahu should say that he is willing to listen to Abbas’s position in face-to-face negotiations. And so on and so forth. Such statements by Netanyahu will take the pressure for making concessions off him and put Obama and Abbas on the spot.

Even more importantly, it will buy Israel time.

And buying time should be Israel’s chief goal with respect to Washington today. Since taking office, Obama has repeatedly demonstrated that he will not reconsider his fundamentally hostile view of Israel. Obama’s basic belief that Israel’s strength and size are to blame for all the violence and radicalism in the Arab world is not subject to change, regardless of how clearly and continuously events on the ground prove it wrong.

EVEN WORSE for Israel, Obama is not alone in this view. Indeed, as a report in Foreign Policy this week makes clear, Obama’s position on Israel is moderate when compared to the positions being staked out in influential policy circles in the US military.

On Wednesday, Foreign Policy published the content of a memo written last month in the US Military’s Central Command. The memo, a “Red Team” assessment of how the US should position itself vis-à-vis the likes of Hamas and Hizbullah, reveals that among key members of the US policy-making community, Israel is viewed with extreme hostility.

The leaked memo reportedly reflects the views of a significant number of senior and mid-level officers in Centcom, including large numbers of intelligence officers, as well as a significant number of area analysts stationed in the Middle East. It argues that it is wrong for the US to lump jihadist movements like Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida and Hizbullah in one group.

Dismissing the significance of the identical religious dogma that stands at the root of these movements, the memo asserts that Hamas and Hizbullah are pragmatic and important social forces with which the US must foster good relations.

The memo calls for the US to support the integration of Hizbullah forces into the Lebanese military. It also calls for the US to encourage and permit the integration of Hamas forces into the US-trained Palestinian security forces.

As far as Israel is concerned, the memo blames the Jewish state for the US’s failure to date to adopt these recommended policies. Moreover, the memo’s authors condemn Israel’s maritime blockade of Gaza as keeping “the area on the verge of a perpetual humanitarian collapse.”

The Centcom memo also condemns Israel’s July 2006 decision to respond to Hizbullah’s unprovoked bombardment of northern Israel and its unprovoked cross-border attack against an IDF patrol in which five soldiers were killed and two were kidnapped and subsequently murdered.

Denying Hizbullah’s subservient relationship with the Iranian regime, the report claims that Israel’s decision to use force to defend itself against Hizbullah’s acts of war served to strengthen Hizbullah’s ties to Teheran.

What this memo shows is that Israel has little hope of seeing a change for the better in US policy in the near future and its best bet today is to play for time. Next week at the Oval Office, Netanyahu should capitalize on his advantage four months ahead of the congressional elections and put the burden on Obama and Abbas to show their good intentions.

Playing for time is what Glick suggests should be considered. This is what the Bolsheviks did clearly at Brest Litovsk. And was Lenin a conservative???

That idea is laughable but instructional, especially when one looks at this unchallenged comment on Israpundit, from a commenter who claims to live in the Negev:

Glick has lost it. We know she is still in BB’s tank but her advice is to stall for time avoiding confrontation? BB can’t avoid confrontation w/out conceding the kitchen sink and he’s already close to that.

What is to be gained by avoiding the inevitable confrontation that will come like a tsunami after the elections, no matter what the results?

Israel should tell Hussein to go Fuck himself and take on Obama personally with everything we can throw at him. We have lot of cards and leverage but chickenshit BB and Barak too cowardly to use them.

Glick did raise a key point BB and Barak are scared out of their gourds of the Israeli leftist media and that’s what they fear most, more than Hussein. They both want power for it’s own sake along with greed and personal megalomania.

OK, we might have to pay a steep economic price. So I’ll herd goats till it blows over. No big deal.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/24513#more-24513

You can see how utterly subjective is the comment above.

It goes without saying that there is no examination of the real correlation of forces between the US and Israel. For example, where are the American ordinary people, especially the American Christian community, on the issue? Are the Christian Evangelized well organized. What about the American Jews? Where do they stand. And many other issues need to be analysed. But the writer above makes it all subjective in the thought that he will herd goats. Big deal that!

Certainly Glick is right. But the real question to follow up on Glick is “waiting for what”? Who can come to the aid of Israel in this coming periood? That is the central question to which 4international will return

ISRAEL WILL ATTACK IRAN AND MUST BE SUPPORTED BY SOCIALISTS

by Felix Quigley

April 21, 2009

 

The clock is now ticking down to war between Israel and Iran, with the US Government lining up with Iran, that is with the Iranian Fascist regime, and everything about the US Fascists, Nazis and Jew Haters, and their alliance with their pet babies the Iranian Fascists right out in the open.

This is now totally unavoidable, as surely as night follows day.

This is what we on 4international have said consistently for at least 2 years. We base our analysis on a number of things.

1. That the Jews are indeed a real nation

2. That Islam is antisemitic to the core. The real essence of the Arab rulers in the Arab League and all those Islamist countries in the UN is to prevent Infidels having a base in THEIR lands.

3. The Mullahs of Iran are motivated by Jew Hatred just as much as were the German Nazis

4. In fact during the Holocaust there was at every level close relations between Islam and the German Nazis. That is fact, hidden but easily proven.

The key to the whole situation is the US Government and how the US elite and to some extent the EU elite is lining up with Islam.

The reason for this is extremely simple and if you are a Trotskyist just a little obvious. They both seek a union together against the threatened socialist revolution.

The following report from DEBKAfile will have to be digested with some urgency:

[Begin DEBKAfile report here]

dated April 21, 2009

DEBKAfile‘s military sources cite some Western intelligence and nuclear weapons experts as predicting that Iran could turn out nuclear weapons some time in the next 12 months.

This estimate is based on Tehran’s announcement that 7,000 centrifuges are in operation to enrich uranium. If all those machines were to work at top speed day and night, seven days a week, they could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb in 60 days, say some intelligence sources. According to American experts, given the current rate of the program’s development, Iran will be in a position to manufacture as many as 60 nuclear bombs and warheads in 12 to 18 months.

This judgment was confirmed by Israel’s military intelligence (AMAN) chief, Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin in his latest briefing to the cabinet Monday, April 20. He reported that Iran is going all-out for enriched uranium from overseas to shorten the process.

Japanese sources recently reported that a North Korean boat shipped a large quantity to Iran earlier this year. According to the big-circulation The Nikkei, the North Korean vessel’s hold carried a secret cargo of uranium highly-enriched to 50-60 percent. The ship set out for Iran in December, moving moved at a leisurely pace so as not to call attention from Western spy satellites, surveillance vessels and warships. Earlier this year, the illegal consignment was dropped at an Iranian port for transport to a facility near Tehran, according to the Japanese paper.

Yadlin noted that extreme economic crisis has not delayed Tehran’s headlong nuclear progress or curtailed its designs on other Middle East countries – Hizballah’s subversive activities in Egypt are not a lone instance. Inflation is officially put at 30 percent but is probably closer to 50 percent, while unemployment is deepening, yet Tehran upped the 2009 appropriation for its nuclear program by 15 percent.

Rather than translating the crisis into leverage for persuading Iran to abandon its nuclear objectives, the Israeli intelligence chief noted that the Obama administration has opened the door to dialogue with all the extremists of the Middle East, including Iran, albeit “with open eyes.”

Iran, for its part, is accelerating its nuclear program, taking full advantage of the undercover communications with Washington which are aimed at gaining Tehran’s cooperation for the US war effort in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

from

 

(Iran could produce first nuke

 in 60 days with 7,000

centrifuges  working 24/7

DEBKAfile Special Report

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6035

 

If as we on 4international believe that the Jews are a nation, and have been for thousands of years, then a number of things follow

1. There is no alternative. Israel must make war on the Mullahs, and specifically the Nuclear Bomb making of the Mullahs

2. The Mullahs are not an ordinary opponent, they are an opponent which denies the Holocaust. Logically that means that they have a new Holocaust of the Jews in mind

3. Israel will attack. That is the historical role of Netanyahu and his colleague Lieberman

4. Because without that attack the Jewish nation is as good as dead.

And that is what is spelled out in the Debka report above and is the esence of the position of 4international. Israel must act! Israel must be supported by all socialists and progressive peoples. That support given the power of antisemitism has to be fought for.

GEORGE GALLOWAY HANDS AID ACROSS TO HOLOCAUST DENIERS HAMAS IN GAZA

by Felix Quigley

March 10, 2009

The biggest issue today is to build a true revolutionary socialist leadership, a Trotskyist party, in the working class.

Such a party must place the well being of the Jewish people and their freedom from antisemitism at the very top of its priorities.

If a party does not line up with the Jews against antisemitism then it is not worthy of the name of Trotskyism.

Who is George Galloway and what is the Palestinian Aid Convoy that has arived in Gaza?

This statement by Galloway may help:

[Begin statement from Galloway here]

We have brought with us many vehicles, much equipment, much medicine, everything we could carry. And we will hand it to Ismail Haniyeh, the elected prime minister of Palestine.

[End statement by Galloway here]

Hamas is of course the same organization that was founded by the Nazi war criminal Hajj Amin el Husseini, and also by Izetbegovic the darling of the US in Bosnia. The roots of these movements are in the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hamas is also promoting Holocaust Denial. One should remember that Islam in the form of Husseini was directly involved in the Holocaust.

This essentially is what Galloway was doing.  He was handing the aid to Hamas and to the very top leader of Hamas at that. And boasting about it.

Let me try to summarise the position of Galloway and his relationship with Hamas. Then we can look a litle further at Hamas whom Galloway associates with.

I do not know how elastic is the mind of Galloway. So let me nevertheless try to narrow things down. This is important because Galloway is in no way an individual case but represents the common position on the wrongly named Left.

 

Galloway takes in the Gaza War a very hostile position towards Israel and total sympathy towards Hamas. (In a future article we will examine this a little more)

 

I am not sure how often Galloway condemned the Hamas rocket bombardment of Sderot and other places in Israel. Did he at all?

 

But in any case Galloway leads the Palestine Convoy as the main figure head and arriving in Gaza makes a point of handing the money etc across to the head of Hamas in Gaza.

 

That same head of Hamas is directly responsible for, to take just one item, that picture which we publish of men and a kid dressed to kill Jews, Israelis, that is civilians

 

So it is Galloway…aid to Hamas…Hamas killing Jews…Hamas denying Holocaust…Hamas blaming Jewish leaders of the time for the Holocaust…Which also means Hamas excusing the Nazis and the Nazi extermination of the Jews campaign. Galloway is bringing money to the leader of these Holocaust Deniers!

 

[Start quote here]

From Palestinian Media Watch (in full — not yet online):

Jewish leaders planned the Holocaust to kill “disabled and handicapped” Jews to avoid having to care for them, according to a Hamas TV educational program. As much of the world prepared to commemorate Yom HaShoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day, Hamas TV presented its latest sinister twist on Holocaust denial.

The Hamas TV educational program, broadcast last week, taught that the murder of Jews in the Holocaust was a Zionist plot with two goals:

1- To eliminate “disabled and handicapped” Jews by sending them to death camps, so they would not be a burden on the future state of Israel.

2- At the same time, the Holocaust served to make “the Jews seem persecuted” so they could “benefit from international sympathy.”

Amin Dabur, head of the Palestinian “Center for Strategic Research” explained that “the Israeli Holocaust – the whole thing was a joke, and part of the perfect show that [Zionist leader and future Israeli prime minister] Ben Gurion put on.” The “young energetic and able” were sent to Israel, while the handicapped were sent “so there would be a Holocaust.”…

[End quote here]

http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archive/2008/04/pa-media-watch-hamas-holocaust-perversio/index.shtml

A video of this can be seen on the solomonia site.

 

On the actual arrival in Gaza of this very reactionary convoy

From the Harry´s Place website the following

George Galoway said:

“I have entered Palestine many times but the most emotional of these is after the 22-day genocidal aggression against the Palestinian people,”

 

Other convoy-goers were similarly full of joy:

“…completely on a high, a high like no other. They say thats the same feeling every person on the convoy is having, it’s amazing! They said they’ve not even reached Gaza City yet and the streets are lined with thousands of people. Abu Bakr mentions that just like every other country they passed, there are alot of bodyguards with big guns, but here it dosnt make you fell scared, it makes you feel safe,  “they all give a huge smile whenever we look at them”.

This is what the left so called on this convoy directed by Galloway are saying. Yhey are not scared.

Consider then the following photograph

hello-boys

Smile, kid…

I mean the whole thing is set up to drive terror into the hearts and lives of Jews living in Israel.

This is obviously a culture of pure evil that Galloway is associating with by bringing this money and material goods and handing it over specifically to the leader of Hamas.

 

I mean the picture above is not a fake and is all too common. The Hamas and Fatah are basically based on Jew Hatred.

From the time of the San Remo Conference held by the League of Nations in 1920 and which promised the Jews all of Palestine, including present day Jordan, the Arabs at that stage having 21 other states in the making, the Jews are now having to fight for a share of the remaining 22 per cent.

 

It is wise to remember that. In our history section (www.jewishhistory.wordpress.com) we will deal with the history of this in detail.

But this Jew hatred promoted by Hamas, its Holocaust Denial, the referring of the Israeli defence of rockets to the Warsaw Ghetto etc, all of this can only lead in one direction, towards a new Holocaust of the Jews.

 

Now Galloway is out of the British Labour Party and refers to himself a lot as a socialist.

This is the great problem. The US Nazis who took over from the German Nazis in 1945 have managed to create a left that is really full of hatred for Israel, which is the Homeland of the Jews.

And this left that the US Nazis have created is working with Islamofascists, also created by the US Nazis quite deliberately.

Again that sentence is irrefutable. Galloway IS working with Islamofascists, that is with the leader of Hamas.

Not mind you with an ordinary Fascist rocket toting foot soldier of Hamas, but with the LEADER of Hamas!

It is only possible to move forward in one way and that is by building a party in the working class which will fight against this Israel hatred and Jew hatred as expressed in Hamas´s Holocaust Denial, and in the close and obvious connection of Galloway with Hamas. From his own lips above the connection is proven.

 

THIS JEW HATRED TODAY IS PREPARING THE GROUND FOR A NEW HOLOCAUST OF THE JEWS

by Felix Quigley

February 26, 2009

We on 4international stand totally behind the Jews of the world and of their Homeland Israel.

There has been a huge rise in antisemitism in every part of the world. In Paris 2 years ago a young Jewish person was murdered. In Paris in recent weeks during the Gaza War there has been a massive increase in attacks on Jews.

One of the results is that in Paris the home of the Renaissance Jews have been advised not to go out on the streets after 7 oclock in the evening, and that they should not appear as Jew, meaning to watch what they wear and how they look, headgear etc.

This is due to 2 things.

One is the massive influx of Arabs into France, Arabs who are really Islamists. They are carrying on an invective against Israel.

The second is the role of the modern Media. It was seen in the Mohammed El Durra France 2 affair that the French Media was totally hostile to Israel.

Consequently these antisemitic Arabs in Paris have an unchallenged right to attack Israel politically and Jews physically. Along with that movements which call themselves erroneously “Leftist” are fully joined at the hip with Islam; Marx Lenin and Trotsky are spinning in their graves I am sorry to say.

 

All of these things mean a huge increase in the level of antisemitism.

One of the very worst things which came to a head during the Gaza war was the intense propaganda against Israel. I live in Spain and it was coming from all sides, from the Media and from confused Spanish people, confused by the lies of the Media

Let me go over a few things.

 

1. The Jews withdrew from Gaza. I mean every single last Jew left Gaza and handed the area over to the Arabs. The Jews even left the Arabs property such as green houses which could be used by the Arabs to help them on their way. The Jews also even left synagogues which stripped of the contents Jews look on as mere buildings. But they were sound concrete structures. They could have been used as youth clubs. The Arabs tore them down stone by stone.

2. But then the Arabs of Gaza promptly elected a Fascist Nazi movement of Jew killers, Hamas, who then stepped up their attacks on Israel. Materially with rockets. Verbally by calls to wipe Israel off the map etc. (They are supporters of Ahmadinejad)

IT CAME DOWN TO A CONCRETE PROBLEM…HOW COULD THE JEWS STOP THE ROCKETS

So basically Israel had to decide how to stop the rockets. It is a fact that the Israeli Labourist Kadima Government members were very weak and unpatriotic and allowed Jews to suffer these rockets for many years.

Still that is not my point here.

Those who have attacked Israel must say 2 things

 

1. They must say that Israel has to simply absorb these rocket attacks on their state. This is antisemitism in action. Is that not clear!

2. They must say that Israel must give in to these attacks on its people and follow the agenda of these antisemitic Arab terrorists which means

*pack up their bags and leaving their Homeland set out on their travels around the world once more as a stateless people

*return to the lines of 1967, from where they were attacked actually in 1967 by Nasser and the other Arab states. So why?

Both of these are also obviously antisemitic suggestions to put to Jews.

 

Becoming again a persecuted people is antisemitic suggestion. No?

Returning to lines which the Arabs used to attack before is antisemitic suggestion as well. No?

And in our next part we will look at some of these antisemitic ideas in action in the West of today.

I take the following from the Harry´s Place website despite certain differences with the organizers there

In the first they take a quote from the notorious Israel hater George Galloway. Here Galloway is comparing the Jews to nazis.

“In April and May of 1943, the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto were surrounded by barbed wire fences, by the occupiers of Poland, and they faced a choice, in the words of the song of the partisans: ‘They could die on their knees or they could live forever’. And they chose to rise up against their occupier, to use their bodies as weapons, to dig tunnels, to fight, not to die in ones and twos of hunger and typhus, but to die as free men and women. Today, the Palestinian people in Gaza are the new Warsaw Ghetto, and those who are murdering them are the equivalent of those who murdered the Jews in Warsaw in 1943.”

So in that quote from Galloway it is clear that the Palestinians of Gaza are the Jews of the Holocaust and that the Jews today of tiny Israel are the Nazis

And the same kind of thing is seen in the next set of pictures. There is the attack on Jews as being Nazis and carrying out a Holocaust of the Arabs.

But 1300 Arabs were killed and Hamas killed some of these through executions etc. Also Hamas set up so that the Israelis had to kill civilian Arabs. I mean it is quite possible to do this.

The British Muslim Initiative, one of the organisers of the demonstrations, put it on their placards:

bmi

As did the Palestinian Forum in Britain:

pfb

So this is conscious.

This is an attempt to make the Jews of Israel out to be Nazis.

And this we argue on this site is the preparation for a new Holocaust of the Jews. Nothing ever is as it seems. And when people argue that the Jews are the Nazis of today then that is going to result in a Holocaust of the Jews.

 

It is such an enormous lie that it must have the most severe intent and implications.

NAZI LINKS BETWEEN BOSNIAN MUSLIMS AND THE IRANIAN FASCIST MULLAHS

by Felix Quigley

August 1, 2008

One of the major defences which Radovan Karodzic must put to the Hague Kangaroo Court is “Who were the Serbs actually fighting in Bosnia?”

This may help.

Consider their leader Elija Izetbegovic. We have done a lot of work on this. Remember that Izetbegovic was a member from 1939 to 1945 of the Nazi Muslim Brotherhood.

 

As was Hajj Amin el Husseini. So Izetbegovic was heavily implicated in the Holocaust of Jews, Serbs and Romany in Bosnia.

Now consider these photos of Hajj Amin el Husseini and remember that this monster and Izetbegovic enjoyed joint membership of the secret Nazi Muslim Brotherhood

Censored: Bosnia’s Nazi Past

Bosnia’s Nazi past and role in the genocide of Bosnian and Krajina Serbs, Jews, and Roma during World War II has long been censored and covered-up in the U.S. and the so-called West. Film footage exists, however, of the Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS troops and Imams in the Handschar and Kama Nazi SS Divisions. Continue reading

THE PROOF THAT IZETBEGOVIC WAS IN 1940 A MEMBER OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

by Felix Quigley

July 24, 2008

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“Our goal: the Islamization of Muslims. Our methods: to believe and to struggle.”—Alija Izetbegovic, “Islamic Declaration,” 1970

“O’ Alija, O’ honored! You drive America crazy!” –Line from Arabic poetry sung by foreign mujahideen during Bosnian war “

http://www.youngmuslims.ca/biographies/display.asp?ID=2

As seen in the url this is from the Young Muslims in Canada.  The Young Muslims of Canada are motivated by the ideas of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why then should the above lines praising Izetbegovic be appearing on the website of the Muslim Brothers in Canada? Was Elija Izetbegovic not an apostle of democracy, American and Western type democracy to be precise? He was certainly sold like this in every newspaper in Europe and in America. Izetbegovic was a particular favourite of a certain Mr Oliver Kamm, just promoted to being a Lead Writer for the venerable Times of London!

Let us continue with the musings of the Muslim Brothers aka Young Muslims of Canada a little further, the writer a certain member of the Muslim Brotherhood called Ismail Royer.

[begin quote here]

“Do we want the Muslim people to leave their going-around-in-circles, their dependence, backwardness, and poverty?” Izetbegovic once wrote, “Then we show clearly which path will take us to that goal: establishing Islam in every field in the personal life of the individual, in family and society…and the establishment of a unique Islamic community from Morocco to Indonesia.” Continue reading

YAMIT82…NOBODY IS LAUGHING OUT LOUD

by Felix Quigley

Israpundit is a very important site for the Jewish people especially now that there has to be organized a great discussion on just how Israel can face up to its enemies.

The news which has emerged from a source within the talks going on between the Israeli ruling class of Livni and Olmert, with the Palestinian Arab fascists presided over by the US Imperialists of Bush, led in the talks by Rice, shows the enormous dangers which Israel and the lives of all Jews are in. This is why we on 4international are very critical of some of the discussions that are taking place there. The most recent issue is over the issue of apostasy and the general position of religion in the Jewish strugggle. Nobody really likes tackling this but it has to be tackled head on if we are to have the discussion necessary for the saving of Israel from its enemies. Continue reading

REPORT SHOWS GREAT DANGER TO ISRAEL…BUT ISRAPUNDIT BETRAYS

By Felix Quigley

Israel is now in the greatest danger that it has ever been in during all of its life. We on 4international have repeatedly emphasised that the way in which Yugoslavia was destroyed (wiped off the map) was through an alliance of American, British and German Imperialism which set up reactionary alliances with Fascist/Nazi entities within Yugoslavia. Those entities were the Fascists around Tudjman in Croatia, the Islamofascists in Bosnia around Izetbegovic, and the Thaci/Haradinaj Fascists and Stalinists of Kosovo. Weak on their own, nevertheless the role of US and NATO/EU Imperialism with all of its power, especially Military power linked to Media power, meant that the Serbs were isolated and defeated. Much of this went on behind the scenes, the public were not aware because the public always underestimates the role of conspiracy and secrecy in how the ruling Capitalist class works.

This is the great danger to the Jews today. Continue reading

THE RETURN OF FASCIST KILLER HARADINAJ

By Felix Quigley

On 4international we intend to follow this man. His name is Ramush Haradinaj, everybody knows he is a killer and has murdered in cold blood many ordinary Serb peasants and simple country folk, we on 4international have already proved that and have exposed the alliance of the US and EU Imperialists with this killer of Serbs, an alliance which goes to the very tops of the US Elite, to Bush, Lieberman, Cheney, Holbrooke and McCain. Continue reading

THE BANKRUPTCY OF SULTAN KNISH…TROTSKYISM WILL NOT BE SILENCED

by Felix Quigley

It is completely impossible to silence Trotskyism in this period because - just as in 1933 - only the policies and political programme of Leon Trotsky, the great Russian Revolutionary Socialist leader, could have saved the lives of 6 millions of Jews who were to perish at the hands of the Fascist Nazis. So therefore the recent horrific attack on Leon Trotsky by Sultan Knish just cannot stand. Continue reading