el Sisi in Egypt against Morsi should be supported (critically)

As I understand it this is in no way an attempt to reform Islam. There is no “reformation” here. Islam is based on the words in the Quran and indeed cannot be changed or reformed in any way. So what is happening in Egypt under el Sisi is something different.

 

What many overlook is the historical perspective in relation to Fascism. As I understand Leon Trotsky on Fascism, Fascism was not some accidental development, but arose when the ruling capitalist class in any particular country moved away from forms of parliamentary democracy towards rule without parliament.

 

the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt took power by means of parliamentary elections but the great majority of Egyptians knew that Morsi was moving away from parliamentary democracy in order to introduce Sharia Law, which is a form of Fascism in our era.

 

So the mass of the Egyptian people rebelled against Morsi and that is the reason for the great popularity of el Sisi, not because el Sisi is a great democrat.

 

In any case this article by Israel National News is a good one on this subject

 

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Egypt Tries to Curb Brotherhood’s Influence Over Mosques

Egypt licenses thousands of state-approved clerics in a bid to stop places of worship from falling “into the hands of extremists.”
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By Elad Benari, Canada

First Publish: 4/11/2014, 11:40 PM

 

Muslim Brotherhood supporters at Cairo rally
Muslim Brotherhood supporters at Cairo rally
Reuters

The Egyptian government has stepped up a campaign to curb Muslim Brotherhood influence over mosques, Reuters reported on Thursday.

The government said it has licensed more than 17,000 state-approved clerics to give Friday sermons to stop places of worship from falling “into the hands of extremists,” according to the report.

The military-backed authorities have been trying to bring mosques under tighter control since the army toppled Mohammed Morsi of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood last July.

All of the newly-approved clerics have been trained at Al-Azhar University, which is a respected center of Sunni Islamic learning, and institutions run by the ministry of religious endowments, according to a statement issued by the prime minister’s office on Thursday.

“That is to strengthen the ministry’s supervision over all Egypt’s mosques so that they do not fall into the hands of extremists and the unqualified” and to prevent mosques being used for “party or sectarian” purposes, it said, according to Reuters.

Last September, the religious endowments minister said unlicensed clerics would be barred from delivering sermons at mosques – long a recruiting ground for Islamist parties.

The government statement said the ministry of religious endowments had taken “a big step” towards addressing a shortfall in “qualified preachers.”

Since Morsi’s ouster, more than 1,400 people have died in street clashes and thousands have been imprisoned. 

Hundreds of Islamists have been placed on trial and some already given death sentences, a move which was criticized by the international community.

4international supports Egypt in placing Morsi on trial for his life

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The Fascist Khomeini returns from France

 

As this article from 4international shows the rot started with Carter and Iran

 

We on 4international fully support the repression (or suppression) of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt by the Military regime of el Sisi

Meanwhile Obama, the CIA, Cameron and British Intelligence are supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

The lethal Fascist MB leader Morsi is on trial for his life. This is supremely good.

The situation brings back to mind how Jimmy Carter when the Fascist Muslim Students took over the American Embassy in Teheran

It was 6:30 a.m. on November 4, 1979 and the takeover of the American Embassy had been planned in advance by Fascists.

The idea was to present it as different to the previous occupation some months before in that it was opposed by Khomeini because it was run by “Leftists”

This would be different. This takeover of the Embassy very soon became the vehicle for drumming up anti-Americanism

At every point Carter played along with the Fascists.

  1. The Shah was a sick man dying of cancer. The State Department had opposed him entering the US for treatment. That was a clear signal to the Fascists back in Iran
  2. When the Fascists seized the Embassy Carter appealed on humanitarian basis. Another clear signal to the Fascists to drive ahead. The more Carter appealed and refused to take military action the more strident the Fascists became. This raises memories also of Hitler taking power in 1933.
  3. The big issue for the Fascists was the Referendum on the new Fascist Islamist Referendum of a few weeks later. Whipping up the `population against America (the Great Satan) became the vehicle for passing the Referendum
  4. The referendum was the obvious gateway to Islamic Rule and the physical liquidation of all opposition, which did happen, and still happens to this very day
  5. The same situation has been played out in many countries, not least in Libya, where the US and Britain were the cheerleaders for Fascist Islam dictatorship. There is only one difference. In the case of Iran Carter did not support directly the Fascists. In later years in Tunisia Libya and Egypt Obama and Cameron have been directly supporting the Fascists. This is now becoming a world phenomenon and throws us all into great danger.

OBAMA IN REALITY CALLED FOR THE DEATH TO MUBARAK AND WILL CONTINUE THIS ROAD

THE FOLLOWING IS A PIECE FROM THE BBC SOME TIME AGO

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Mark Mardell Saturday, 12 February 2011

Barack Obama looked supremely happy making his speech on the exit of Egypt’s President Hosni Mubarak. It was not just that he could complete the one he had started prematurely yesterday. It was not just that, despite all the brickbats that have been thrown at the White House for clumsy handling of this crisis, the administration has got exactly what it has wanted for a couple of weeks: the exit of Mr Mubarak, the entry of the military as caretakers, the promise of democracy, and the absence of violence.

It is more personal, and more political than that. Maybe it is the old community organiser in him, maybe it is the admiring, almost envious, student of the great civil rights leaders, but something tells me few things light him up more than seeing ordinary people overcoming obstacles to seize their own future.

This triumph allowed Mr Obama to revert to the visionary candidate of the campaign, as he did in Tucson after a tragedy.

When he talks about the “moral arc of the universe” you know he is in his element. This is what he is best at. Weaving a selection of facts into a simple story that builds into a grand moral narrative that speaks to his greater vision. He instantly cast the Egyptian revolution as part of a pattern.

“While the sights and sounds that we heard were entirely Egyptian, we can’t help but hear the echoes of history – echoes from Germans tearing down a wall, Indonesian students taking to the streets, Gandhi leading his people down the path of justice. As Martin Luther King said in celebrating the birth of a new nation in Ghana while trying to perfect his own, ‘There is something in the soul that cries out for freedom.’ Those were the cries that came from Tahrir Square, and the entire world has taken note.”

The leader of a country and a capital deeply split on vicious partisan lines could talk of people coming together, despite their differences, in one cause:

“We saw people of faith praying together and chanting – “Muslims, Christians, We are one.” And though we know that the strains between faiths still divide too many in this world and no single event will close that chasm immediately, these scenes remind us that we need not be defined by our differences. We can be defined by the common humanity that we share.”

The commander-in-chief of the most powerful military the world has ever known could talk of the power of non-violence:

“Egyptians have inspired us, and they’ve done so by putting the lie to the idea that justice is best gained through violence. For in Egypt, it was the moral force of non-violence – not terrorism, not mindless killing – but non-violence, moral force that bent the arc of history toward justice once more.”

This day of history brings many years of potential problems for this president and those beyond him. The army will probably embark on the sort of reforms people want, but that is not certain. In free and fair elections, the Egyptian people will not necessarily choose leaders who are friendly to the West or to Israel. Other Middle Eastern autocrats may not be delighted at the thought that Mr Obama might want to bend the moral arc of the universe in their direction.

But there is opportunity between these potential problems. Film stars can adopt foreign orphans, Mr Obama has adopted a foreign revolution, and with it a foreign policy narrative that allows him to restate his core manifesto of inspiration and unity…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2011/02/obama_adopts_egypts_revolution.html

(SOME OF THE COMMENTS IN THE ABOVE ARE ALSO INTERESTING. THEY SHOW THE COLLISION BETWEEN THOSE WHO WERE SCEPTICAL AND THE RIGHT ON PRO-DEMOCRACY TYPES. BUT THE CARDS WERE STACKED AS THE POLLS SHOWED THE GREAT MAJORITY OF EGYPTIANS WANTED SHARIA…NOW THAT IS DEMOCRACY!!!)

WHEEL FORWARD TO TODAY AND THE SITUATION FACING OBAMA AND AMERICA IS WELL EXPOSED IN THIS EXTRACT FROM TODAY’S JIHADWATCH:

(OPEN LETTER TO OBAMA)

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To President Barack Obama:

Three years ago, I had the honour of meeting you in the White House as part of a delegation of some 50 human rights defenders from around the world. I was one of three rights defenders who were asked to speak during the 40 minutes out of the 90-minute meeting during which you and your advisors were present.

When it was my turn to address those gathered, I urged you to consider the gulf between the content of your speech to the Arab and Islamic worlds in Cairo in June 2009 and the reality of American policy in February 2010, noting that they seemed separated by much more than simply a few months. In Cairo, you promised to stand by peoples of the region and engage with them, but eight months later your administration’s policy was to turn its back on the people and work instead with local regimes. I discussed three examples of this: Palestine, Yemen and Egypt.

Jokingly, you noted that despite being a guest in the White House, I was audacious enough to criticise the president in his presence. I responded that the act required no courage at all in light of what happens when we try to criticise Arab presidents back home, at which the hall erupted in laughter.

After the Egyptian revolution, I met your commendable human rights advisor Samantha Power and told her it was time for a second Cairo speech. At the time, hopes were high that Egyptians would now be able to work to dramatically improve the human rights situation in the country, and that US policy would support Egyptians in achieving these aspirations.

Now, two years later, neither changes to the human rights situation nor to US policy have fulfilled our hopes. Egyptian young people continue to live in frustration due to the deteriorating economic situation and the repeated failure of political processes to represent their demands, despite the sacrifices that they have made for the sake of the revolution and transition to democracy. Young people taking to the streets to express this frustration continue to be met with violence.

In fact, while people often write their last wills in their 60s or 70s, Egyptian youth in their 20s — who would normally be planning their weddings — have been found carrying freshly penned wills while participating in protests. But these wills are not written to pass on material possessions to their relatives, as most of them own nothing of value and can only offer their lives and their aspirations to live a life of dignity in their own country. Rather, these wills dictate the details of their funerals: Which square will the procession proceed from? Which streets will it pass through? What chants should be heard?

Twenty-three-year-old Mohamed Hussein Al-Qarni, administrator of the “Brotherhood Are Liars” Facebook page, will not be the last of these youth to die. He was shot in the neck and chest on 1 February in a side street near the Ittihadiya Presidential Palace. Since December, the palace environs have witnessed the torture of demonstrators by members of the president’s party, the dragging and beating of protesters by security forces in scenes broadcast around the world, and assassinations. Two prominent cases are those of opposition journalist Mohamed Al-Husseini Abu Deif, who was shot in the head 12 December in front of the palace, and that of Amr Saad, 19, who was also shot in the head in front of the palace in the beginning of February. This violence has also been seen in Tahrir Square. On 20 November, 17-year-old Gaber “Jika” Salah, the administrator of the Together Against the Muslim Brothers Facebook page, was shot in the head with a shotgun. On 31 December, 20-year-old Mohannad Samir, a member of the 6 April Movement, was shot in the head with a shotgun and entered a coma for several days before it finally became clear that he would survive.

Rape, which is recognised internationally as a weapon of war, is now used in Egypt as a political weapon to deter opponents from gathering in Tahrir Square. According to multiple testimonies in recent weeks, the assaults differ radically from the forms of sexual harassment prevalent in Egypt in previous years. According to victims and video footage, female protesters are separated from the demonstrations, taken to other locations, and raped, in what appear to be organised, previously planned attacks. The faces of the assailants show no signs of emotion or sexual excitement. The objective appears to be to break the political will of the victims through profound degradation, whether they are raped, sexually mauled, or stripped entirely of their clothes — if they manage to escape the mob. In more than one case, a knife was used to penetrate the victims’ vaginas, and multiple women underwent hysterectomies after being assaulted. In this context, we can understand the attempted rape of a 70-year-old woman known for her political affiliation as well as the sexual assault of a number of men.

Mr President, when I spoke with you in 2010, I asked why the US administration condemns repressive practices in Iran while remaining silent when Arab regimes engage in the same violations. Over recent months, statements by your administration have similarly failed to address violations and have even blamed protesters and victims for violence committed in the context of demonstrations. Indeed, the stances of your administration have given political cover to the current authoritarian regime in Egypt and allowed it to fearlessly implement undemocratic policies and commit numerous acts of repression.

Statements that “Egypt is witnessing a genuine and broad-based process of democratisation” have covered over and indeed legitimised the undemocratic processes by which the Constituent Assembly passed the new constitution, an issue which has in turn led to greatly heightened instability in the country. Calls for “the opposition [to] remain non-violent” and for “the government and security forces [to] exercise self-restraint in the face of protester violence” have allowed the police and the current Egyptian administration to shirk their responsibilities to secure demonstrations and to respond to the demands of the Egyptian people, and have allowed them to place the blame for violence and instability on protesters themselves. Urging “the opposition [to] engage in a national dialogue without preconditions” undermines the ability of the opposition to play a real role in the decision-making processes of the country, as these “dialogues” seldom result in anything more concrete than a photo-op with the president.

Is it a coincidence that the statements issued by your administration reflect the same political rhetoric used by the new authoritarian regime in Egypt? But when these statements come from the world’s superpower — the one most able to have a positive or negative impact on policies in Egypt and the region, not to mention the biggest donor and material supporter of the Egyptian regime for the past 35 years — they become lethal ammunition, offering political protection to perpetrators of murder, torture, brutality and rape.

I do not write you today to ask you to condemn the repressive policies of the current regime, or to ask you to urge President Mohamed Morsi to “cease” using excessive force and violence against Egyptians, even as your administration was so eager to achieve a ceasefire with Hamas to stop hostilities in Gaza. I write you not to ask for troops to protect political protesters in Egypt, or to suspend, freeze, or reduce military or economic aid to my country, or even to impose conditions on that aid. My request is quite modest: that spokespeople and officials in your administration stop commenting on developments in Egypt. This will no doubt spare your administration much time and effort, but more importantly, it may spare more bloodshed in Egypt, as the current regime will no longer enjoy the political cover that the US administration now offers them. Certainly, Egypt has seen enough bloodshed over the last two years, and Egyptians are tired of being punished for their uprising.

When in December I met Michael Posner, assistant secretary of state for human rights and that rare person in your administration who is motivated by human rights concerns, I asked that he pass on this modest request to administration spokespeople: that as long as they cannot speak the truth about what is happening in Egypt, they keep silent.

Mr President, only a few days ago Egyptians celebrated the second anniversary of their revolution. Meanwhile, the regime commemorated the occasion differently: by re-enacting the scenes of violence and brutality seen during the 18 days of the 2011 uprising, adding the new phenomenon of gang rapes. In one week, more than 60 people died in several governorates, and there were dozens of reported gang rapes and assaults. Hundreds of people were arrested and an unknown number abducted. One of them — 23-year-old Mohamed Al-Guindi — reappeared a few days later in a hospital, brutally tortured, and soon died.

Mr President, I fear that the gulf I spoke to you about three years ago is fast filling up with blood. In this context, further American statements supporting the current Egyptian regime will only lead to more Egyptians being beaten, raped, tortured, and killed. Please, ask officials with your administration to stop talking about Egypt for a while, at least until we can bury our dead, comfort their grieving families, treat the victims of rape and torture, find the disappeared, and read the wills of a new generation of young people who plan not for their weddings but for their funerals.

The writer is director of the Cairo Institute for Human Rights Studies.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/News/1328/21/Open-letter-to-President-Obama.aspx

COMMENT ON THIS BY 4INTERNATIONAL:

TOO LATE!
The task of leadership is to be right before and during the event and not after.

I have to say that small as we were out of all the political tendencies in the world no less only 4international, yes this tiny website, took up a correct position on all of these events.

MILOSEVIC defence of against Clinton, the Hague and the Islamist Izetbegovic

BEN ALI IN TUNISIA defence of

GAGHBO defence of

MUAMMAR GADHAFI defence of

MUBARAK defence of

Our defence of all of these dictatorial type leaders AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD was UNCONDITIONAL. It was based on the well known theory (once well known) that in no condition do you allow the Fascist parties and Leaders to take control of state power. Qaradawi, Morsi and such leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood are clearly Fascist, as indeed is Hamas and Fatah!

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PRESIDENT OF EGYPT IS A RELIGIOUS FASCIST

 

 

“Mohamed Morsi: [in the 1920’s, the Egyptians] said: “The constitution is our Koran.” They wanted to show that the constitution is a great thing. But Imam [Hassan] Al-Banna, Allah’s mercy upon him, said to them: “No, the Koran is our constitution.”

The Koran was and will continue to be our constitution.

The Koran will continue to be our constitution.

Mohamed Morsi: The Koran is our constitution.

Crowds: The Koran is our constitution.

Mohamed Morsi: The Prophet Muhammad is our leader.

Crowds: The Prophet Muhammad is our leader.

Mohamed Morsi: Jihad is our path.

Crowds: Jihad is our path.

Mohamed Morsi: And death for the sake of Allah is our most lofty aspiration.

Crowds: And death for the sake of Allah is our most lofty aspiration.

Mohamed Morsi: Above all – Allah is our goal.

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The shari’a, then the shari’a, and finally, the shari’a. This nation will enjoy blessing and revival only through the Islamic shari’a. I take an oath before Allah and before you all that regardless of the actual text [of the constitution]… Allah willing, the text will truly reflect [the shari’a], as will be agreed upon by the Egyptian people, by the Islamic scholars, and by legal and constitutional experts…

Rejoice and rest assured that this people will not accept a text that does not reflect the true meaning of the Islamic shari’a as a text to be implemented and as a platform. The people will not agree to anything else.”

UPDATE

The Guardian reports:

Egypt’s president-elect Mohamed Morsi has vowed to free the blind sheikh jailed in the US for a plot to blow up New York City landmarks.

In his first public speech, addressing tens of thousands of people in Tahrir Square, Morsi promised to work to free Omar Abdel-Rahman, the spiritual leader of men convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

But! But! How can this be? Surely the Muslim Brotherhood is a pragmatic moderate forward looking Islamist movement, and not in any sense a whisper away from Al Qaeda.

I just wonder how long the US is going to continue to pay for this. Why should it?

I bet that is precisely what Romney’s line is going to be during the upcoming election campaign. What possible answer can Obama give that will play well with the electorate?

They played the Moderate Card

Now it is the Fascist Sharia Card

 

 

 

(The above great analysis is from Harry’s Place who are bringing about a change in their political line)

 

(But change comes too late. The damage is done and they did not oppose the Muslim Brotherhood or defend Mubarak)

EGYPT…WE TROTSKYISTS DO STAND AGAINST MORSI AND FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM!

 

Ask the question: does one have separation of Church and State in post election Egypt, with Morsi elected as the representative of the Muslim Brotherhood.

It does matter. That is one of the gains of democracy, without that you have some type of clerical religious dictatorship.

 

Of course Morsi will tell the world that there is nothing to fear.

 

Should we take Morsi at his word or should we be sceptical, since the policy of “deceiving” is written right into the Koran as being something which is holy.

 

We have to examine the history of the Muslim Brotherhood, its foundational essence, its history, its present practice, and the latter on an international scale because this organization IS international.