El Sisi is different. Unlike Netanyahu he is not simply a talker. I will never and can never forgive Netanyahu because he watched Hamas and Islamic Jihad bombs rain down on Sderot for 7 years without acting thus sacificing Jews. El Sisi acted the next morning after the horrific murder of poor Egyptian Copts in Libya by Islamic State savages.

I support el Sisi and call on all of Ireland and Israel to also support el Sisi.

I wrote 3 days ago the following:

“Libya was a relatively settled and prosperous country with many improvements made on the basis of its oil development market by Colonel Gadhafi, who also to his credit had a strong line in assistance to the impoverished Africa and Africans south of Libya
That all came to a shuddering end when NATO, America and leaders like William Hague attacked Libya placing Jihadists in power. The above and much more is the result.
We as a Trotskyist organization said at the time that leaders like Gadhafi had to be defended against the Jihad. There is no if and but. To block the deadly Jihad it is necessary to defend all secular leaders against the Jihad.
This certainly applied to Milosevic, but also much wider, namely the Shah against Khomeini, Gaghbo in Ivory Coast, Ben Ali in Tunisia, Mubarak and now el Sisi in Egypt, Assad and of course Gadhafi
Under Obama, under Cameron, under Sarkozy – we descend into a dark night.



Pictures from the Pamela Geller website interposed by picture of the murder of the American Ambassador.
Libya was a relatively settled and prosperous country with many improvements made on the basis of its oil development market by Colonel Gadhafi, who also to his credit had a strong line in assistance to the impoverished Africa and Africans south of Libya
That all came to a shuddering end when NATO, America and leaders like William Hague attacked Libya placing Jihadists in power. The above and much more is the result.
We as a Trotskyist organization said at the time that leaders like Gadhafi had to be defended against the Jihad. There is no if and but. To block the deadly Jihad it is necessary to defend all secular leaders against the Jihad.
This certainly applied to Milosevic, but also much wider, namely the Shah against Khomeini, Gaghbo in Ivory Coast, Ben Ali in Tunisia, Mubarak and now el Sisi in Egypt, Assad and of course Gadhafi
Under Obama, under Cameron, under Sarkozy – we descend into a dark night.
These corrupt leaders and their bankrupt capitalist system cause enormous sufferings to humanity
Pamela Geller says it all (Pamela banned from Britain by Teresa May!!!) while this happens in the suffering world:
The Muslim fighters of the Islamic State kidnapped a dozen Christians and executed them because they were Christian – but Obama say, the Islamic State is not Islamic. Terror in the White House. Obama armed and aided these savages.
Libya – this is the poison fruit of Obama’s handiwork in that once stable country. Look at the world in 2008 and look at it now. Libya, Mali, Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, Iraq ….. and Obama’s obsession is his hatred for the Jews and the arming and legitimizing of the world’s largest sponsor of terror, Iran.
Why is it the enemedia never questions Obama’s Libya catastrophe? – See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/the-islamic-state-kidnaps-and-executes-12-christians-in-libya.html/#sthash.MsselKLi.dpuf


Friday, February 22, 2013

AFDI #Myjihad Ads go up on Chicago Buses!

Finally, after months of wrangling and First Amendment violations, our AFDI jihad campaign hits the streets of Chicago to counter the deceptive and misleading Hamas-CAIR #myjihad propaganda


Marx was clear as to the potential Fascist nature of Islam even in his day. We Marxists recognise Fascism as a modern phenomenon, tied in with the capitalist system in severe crisis, antisemitism may be present but present always is to atomise the workers and to block all opposition.

What Geller is doing is fighting for free speech. She is NOT against Muslims and not against Muslims simply worshipping. But she is explaining the nature of Islam.

What could be wrong with that!

We as revolutionary socialists defend Pamela Geller unconditionally in this campaign to open up the dusty and very bloody pages of Islam for us to peruse.





Yes, I have just had time to look through the very influential blog of Pamela Geller.




Pamela Geller carries on her site an important article which deals with the murder and torture of the many Africans and Libyans who were supportive of Muammar Gadhafi




Pamela Geller does not explain how she said nothing when her buddies on Jihadwatch called for abstentionism in the Jihad against Gadhafi. In other words she allowed it to happen.




Geller NOW refers to the grisly murder of Muammar Gadhafi. But she does not deal with her own remark at the time “And good riddance too!”




Geller is just carrying on this rot inside the bourgeois Zionist Movement. I can find in her leading articles no defence of Assad in Syria who also IS FACING THE WRATH OF THE OBAMA/MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD/QATAR/QARADAWI JIHAD. That is Syria’s turn and Geller is silent.


You with me? There is something fraudulent going on here. None of them are defending Assad from the Jihad. Just as they did not defend Mubarak or Gadhafi unconditionally either.


You see? Basically all of these bourgeois Zionist leaders like Geller, and like Belman of Israpundit, and like Spencer, they condemn the Jihad AFTER the Jihad has been successful.


Can Jews be safe behind bourgeois Zionist leaders like Geller who will warn of the danger only after the danger has struck and the Jihad has been successful and all opposition to the Jihad has been put down. Then it is too late.


In the following report on Libya today with all of its torture and its planned Sharia Law Geller takes the daily mail Report.


The introduction by Geller at the beginning makes interesting reading. She is now correct. The Government of Gadhafi WAS largely secular. Nobody explained why Gadhafi gave such a welcome to Black and often Christian Africans over so many years, and that they all felt safe in Libya, but NOT safe in other Arab countries. Many of these Black Africans loved Gadhafi but hated other Arab states and rulers. And Gadhafi was NOT according to Jim Squires responsible for Lockerbie. He was bullied into taking the blame.


But why did Geller go along with Spencer and Shirk that she had no dog in this fight?


And why on the murder of Gadhafi did Geller say “And good riddance too!”


{In the Daily Mail report which Geller uses you will notice that these British imperialists and fascists in the mail keep up the black propaganda against Muammar Gadhafi}



(start article here)




Obama’s Interventionism: Libyan Opposition Being Viciously Tortured


I wondered why Obama didn’t laud his human rights record in Libya, Egypt and Iran in his #SOTU….. /sarc tag off.

He didn’t mention the vicious sodomy and barbaric murder of Ghaddafi by Obama-supported sharia savages. Nor did his royal flyness mention the barbaric atrocities and genocide of blacks committed by anti-Gaddafi Muslims during last year’s Obama Libya moment.

Obama ‘s war against Libya unleashed hell on earth in Libya. Linda R queries, “Is it ethical for US/NATO to ignore the agony and massive suffering their unjust, illegal war created? And just walk away and leave HELL ON EARTH in Libya?

This is Obama’s slash and burn foreign policy, helping to destroy secular regimes in order to install jihadist rule. In this he has been completely and utterly successful.

Where are the media O-hos on this?


Pro-Gaddafi supporters in Libya are being tortured, says United Nations Daily Mail

  • 8,000 loyalists loyalists being ill-treated by militia men – human rights report
  • Medicins Sans Frontieres pulls out of Misrata
  • Amnesty International claim there have been deaths at Libyan detention centres

Britain and its NATO allies spent billions freeing Libyans from the evil clutches of Colonel Gaddafi, but what exactly has replaced him?

Democratic elections are still some way away, there’s serious unrest in several cities and today a United Nations report reveal that up to 8,000 pro-Gaddafi supporters were being held by militia groups in Libya.

Human Rights Commissioner Navi Pillay claimed they are being held in appalling conditions and are being abused and tortured.

While Amnesty International state that detainees have died after being tortured by militias in detention centres.



The organisation’s medical staff said they were were being asked to patch up detainees mid-way through torture sessions so they could go back for more abuse.

The agency said it was in Misrata, about 130 miles east of the Libyan capital and scene of some of the fiercest battles in the conflict, to treat war-wounded detainees but was instead having to treat fresh wounds.

Meantime, the UN’s Mrs Pillay said the problem was down to militias working outside of government control.

She added: ‘The lack of oversight by the central authorities creates an environment conducive to torture and ill treatment. My staff have received alarming reports that this is happening in places of detention that they have visited.’


Abuse claims: Ibrahim Mohammed says he was tortured at the hands of the Gharyan city forces earlier this month. His claims support assertions by the United Nations that torture and violence is widespread

General Director of MSF Christopher Stokes reinforced the UN assertions and said: ‘Patients were brought to us in the middle of interrogation for medical care, in order to make them fit for more interrogation.

‘This is unacceptable. Our role is to provide medical care to war casualties and sick detainees, not to repeatedly treat the same patients between torture sessions.

The agency said it has raised the issue with the authorities in Misrata and with the national army.

‘No action was taken,’ said Stokes. ‘We have therefore come to the decision to suspend our medical activities in the detention centres.’

Rights groups have repeatedly raised concerns about torture being used against people, many of them sub-Saharan Africans, suspected of having fought for Muammar Gaddafi’s forces during Libya’s nine-month civil war.

Reports of the mistreatment and disappearances of suspected Gaddafi loyalists have embarrassed Libya’s ruling National Transitional Council (NTC), which had vowed to make a break with practices under Gaddafi and respect human rights.

They are installing a sharia government. Sharia is the opposite of humanity.

The allegations are also awkward for the Western powers which backed the anti-Gaddafi rebellion and helped install Libya’s new leaders.



FROM DEBKA (the great www.debka.com)



Helped by highly sophisticated contraband weapons smuggled out of Libya, Iran and Hizballah are getting the Palestinian Hamas equipped for another round of hostilities with Israel. debkafile’s military sources report that Sunday, Sept. 25, Egyptian security forces, acting on information from a Western intelligence source, homed in near Ismailia on a large half-empty buried cache of advanced SA-24 anti-air infrared missiles (a version of the US Stinger) stored there en route from Libya to Gaza.
The information came too late to block delivery; most of the crates were found empty of their contents of missiles and other military equipment which must already be on their way to Sinai or Gaza. Some of the empty containers were found to have contained Russian-made MDM-3 sea mines, of the type Muammar Qaddafi scattered around Libyan ports in May to keep NATO vessels at bay.


as we explain below, destroy Hamas, destroy Fatah

The position of 4international is confirmed by this news from DEBKA.

From the very beginning we were totally alone is claiming  that the events in Tunisia, Egypt and in Libya would be the most direct threat on Israel and on the Jews

We maintained that the Arab Spring was “Sharia Fascism Antisemitism” on Steroids

Now Israel is faced with attack from every quarter



Iran and Syria in combo with Hamas and Hizbullah

Iran and Libya may prove the most decisive forces of all ranged against Israel. Iran because the western governments have worked a kind of street theatre of the absurd alliance with Iran over many years. This took the form of heavy propaganda against Iran while America has continually held Israel (Sharon, Olmert and Netanyahu) back from striking against Iran and stopping the Nuclear Bomb assembly. Libya, where Islam politically correct on steroids version is installed by Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy, now poses very immediate threat with Stingers in the arsenal of Hamas

We on 4international are now being attacked right, left and centre. And many of these attacks are coming on us from Jewish traitors, some of whom are calling themselves “religious Jews”.

But why are they attacking 4international, which as everybody knows from the name, represents the historical line to Leon Trotsky

We called to not let Mubarak (despite our different programme) fall

Also with Gadhafi.

We called and call for Israel to be independent from the US

Return the subsidy! Strike Iran! Destroy Hamas and Fatah! Create one unified Israel and Jewish state!

To Caroline Glick we say: Do not rely or slavishly follow US Congress. Instead mobilise the Jewish people en masse in Israel behind this revolutionary national programme, not a socialist programme, because the esistence of Jews as a people is at stake

To all true Jewish patriots we say: defend 4international, do not allow poisoned traitors to attack us.

Usually these attacks take the form of poison, withdrawal of our comments, snide comments about Trotsky based on lies of course, but also these lies are dependent on ignorance of history, and downright backwardness.

4international told the truth about Yugoslavia

4international told the truth about the “Arab Spring”, that it is Sharia/Capitalist Dictatorship

And we have always told the truth that the palestinian State is the plans to continue the Holocaust, in new and even worse forms

And 4international will NEVER be silenced


I have made a call on the website of Pamela Geller for Geller and her associate spencer on Jihadwatch to change the direction of the 9.11 commemoration taking place in just over a week in New York


Naturally, and it goes without saying, I support Geller and Spencer in the organising of this commemoration.


There is a general weakness and confusion on this central point. To defend Muammar Gadhafi against the forces of what is an Imperialist Empire, which now is NATO in alliance with The Muslim Brotherhood, does not imply agreement on political programme with Gadhafi.


The defence is unconditional, and is the same kind of defence made by Leon Trotsky when he defended unconditionally the religious despot haile Selassie in Abyssinia in the 1930s against Mussolini’s invasion


But that defence did not imply that Trotsky was in agreement with Selassie politically speaking


This is not that easy a concept to get across but it is absolutely fundamental.


The url below which refers to the most recent article by debka will be most interesting to readers of this website.


We have always said that Gadhafi entered into a real agreement with Bush and Blair, and part of this was to fight the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaida


Our point has always been that Gadhafi kept his word on this, Obama and Cameron broke theirs.


Also we make the point that this has got huge implications for Israeli leaders.


I have been reading the material put out by Pameal Geller. I have always admired Geller’s spirit in the fight against the erosion of the rights of Free Speech as contained in the First Amendment, and Spencer’sfight against the reaction of Jihad


But in their material published for the 9.11 Anniversary the issue of Libya is absent, never mind that they have never defended Gadhafi against what is in essence worse than the Jihad, it is the Jihad in alliance with NATO and the UN.


With great repercussion and implication for Israel


My comment on Atlas Shrugs is the following (For death of Gadhafi read death of Bin Laden…my error…typing too quickly)



Felix Quigley said…

The biggest issue at this moment is Libya. Before it was Ivory Coast. Before it was Egypt. Soon it will be Israel.

The issue of Libya is of the greatest importance because if the alliance of NATO and essentially The Muslim Brotherhood, as well as sections of Al Qaida, is allowed to go unchallenged then that opens the door for NATO power to be used against Israel.

There is an alliance on the ground as well as in the air over Libya between the terrorists of Islam and the forces of NATO, which are in terms of on the ground the men of the British SAS, the French Legionaires, and the US Seals

There is the rub, the same who killed Gadhafi, and even there, there is the possibility that Obama ordered it to bolster his image, although that is uncertain.

In any case it seems to me that the whole of the US and the European Media are hiding the reality of the alliance which their Governments have made and are making with Fascism in Libya

And this raises the possibility that NATO troops, which must have American Seals special troops at the forefront, will be used to enforce the “Palestine” State, which is the same really as this new state and states being enforced in Libya, Egypt, Ivory Coast, and many others

Gadhafi has been isolated completely by the anti Jihad movement

It was absolutely vital to defend Gadhafi unconditionally against the Fascist NATO in alliance with the Fascist Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaida

The following url deals with exactly the position which Gadhafi found himself. He saw NATO in alliance with his enemies, and in that situation he said “two can play at that game” and that was why he sent his son Saif to make overtures

I repeat Gadhafi has been isolated

It was not correct to say and to limit the taking of positions to “after Gadhafi it will be worse”. It was necessary to defend Gadhafi without conditions against his enemies.

That was not done.

In fact every attempt was made by JihadWatch to stick the knife into Gadhafi and to say there was no difference between Gadhafi and his enemies in Libya and in NATO. But there was a difference, all the difference in the world. Pamela Geller went along at least to some extent with Jihadwatch on this.

The url to look at in this regard is:

While not implying political agreement with the political programme of Gadhafi at any time the defence of Gadhafi against NATO/Muslim Brotherhood must be placed at the centre of the rally being organized by Geller and Spencer on the 10th anniversary. It goes without saying that I support and defend Geller and Spencer on this rally regardless of other political differences.
Putting Libya, and the defence of Gadhafi against NATO, and against the NATO/MB Alliance, at the centre of the 10th anniversary, would help to expose better than anything else the real alliance which exists between Obama/Cameron/Hague/Sarkozy and The Muslim Brotherhood
But if that is not done the issue of 9.11 is removed from the real issue and struggle of today, and especially how the conquest of Libya by this reactionary coalition (Of NATO and Islam) can lead also to the conquest of the Jews and Israel by the same reactionary alliance






Israel is walking blindfolded by its leaders towards its end, the same kind of end that befell Mubarak and in the news Gadhafi and the Libyan people.


Open Season: Hunting Black People in Libya

Racism against blacks in Libya…antisemitism against Jews in Israel… This picture could very well be Jews very soon


The blindfolds are literally being placed on Jewish people by the Israeli leaders Netanyahu, Barak and others


The same conspiracy exists against Israel as existed against Gadhafi.


First of all there is NATO and here there is a new element in NATO where Al Jazeera and Qatar were instrumental along with the BBC and American Media in the war on Gadhafi.


The Media is not separate from the NATO war machine but is a central part of it.


The taking of Tripoli by NATO was a highly organized affair, which involved CIA bribing of Gadhafi leaders in Tripoli, in a psyops operation which involved a mock-up somewhere in Qatar of the Green square in Tripoli, to broadcast images that the city had fallen to the “Rebels”.


And so on…the list is endless…the city of Tripoli was taken essentially by the group affiliated with Al Qaida, with the road ahead prepared by British apache helicopters and continual bombardment from the air.


This went along with a racist regime of terror against BLACK Libyans and BLACK Africans


The use of racism is central in the strategy of the New World Order of Soros.


(Jews think of this experience…Racism against blacks, but anti-Semitism against Jews is far, far bigger, a thousand times at least bigger)


Jews of the world, you are so vulnerable in this situation.


Soros himself is a Jew, but is a Jew who stated recently that he was highly pleasured to be involved in the removal of items of value from off Jews who were on their way to the DEATH CAMPS. You know that sort of Jew. That sort of New World Order.


Israel in the face of this is a sitting duck, due to its leadership.


Remember that Gadhafi made in his life one serious mistake. This was when he met Blair in that tent, who was acting as proxy for Bush Jnr., and when he agreed to pay for something he did not do (Lockerbie…done by Syria/Iran/Palestinians)


He also agreed to dismantle his nuclear preparations etc.


THAT was his only mistake…to think that there could be a peace with NATO and the NOW (new World Order)


That was the piece of collaboration by the desert fighter that has led to his family being butchered/hounded


Netanyahu, Barak, and a large section of Jewish leadership, especially American Jewish leadership, is up to its neck in this collaboration.


I will not deal here with Robert Spencer as Spencer is not Jewish. But Spencer claims to be anti-Jihadist. And what a snake Spencer has turned out to be on this Libyan issue.


Pamela Geller is however Jewish and makes plenty of it. But Geller has turned out to be a big BIG promoter of NATO, and the American soldiers of NATO.


When these American NATO soldiers Geller is so fond of turn on Israel (as they will do and soon) what will Geller do then? Support her (US) soldiers? Or change her mind at the last minute? But the last minute is always too late Geller, because you have already by then betrayed and led Jews down the wrong path.


But back to Netanyahu, Barak, Feiglin and all the rest of these old fogeys of bourgeois Zionism…


Young Israeli, Jewish and Zionist patriots must urgently open their eyes and must organize quite independently to take political power in a new movement.


  • Internationally defend Gadhafi
  • IDF must bomb Iran’s Nuclear
  • War on Gaza and Lebanon to destroy Hamas and Hizbullah
  • Do not allow a single Jew to be harmed, much less murdered, by anti-Semites inside the Jewish Homeland
  • Create the 4international inside Israel
  • Replace the present leadership by a fighting leadership

The reality of the hesitation of Barak/Netanyahu is covered in the recent article by debka.com

Read it all. this is part:

Egyptian preventatives and Israel’s passivity in the face of an assault known to be approaching afford the Palestinian terrorist group, which is sponsored and armed by Iran, extra leverage and strategic leeway in its contest with Israel.


Sunday, Aug. 21, after accepting an Egyptian-brokered truce for halting the missile blitz from Gaza, Netanyahu commented that Israel had gained the upper hand: The Palestinians had landed themselves with a new negative equation: Their attacks from Sinai would henceforth incur retaliation in Gaza.


Jihad Islami is now turning this equation on its head by demonstrating that Israeli attacks on Palestinian terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip bring forth Palestinian reprisals from Sinai.


They calculate correctly as it turned out this week that the Egyptian border offers them no obstacle to cross-border terror, whereas Israeli counteraction is stopped short.




Held back from its famous preemptive tactics by Israel’s leaders out of fear of further strains on relations with the military rulers in Cairo, the Israeli army’s deterrent strength is progressively sapped and the pro-Iranian Palestinian terrorists are getting the last laugh even before they strike.


They have wound up holding the initiative in the next round. It is up to them to decide for how much longer – days or weeks – reinforced Israeli units must stay on maximum preparedness and Israel’s main routes to the south, Highways 10 and 12, stay closed to civilian traffic. They can keep Israel on tenterhooks as long as they like before deciding to press the trigger.