IF YOU CANNOT DEFEND ASSAD YOU CANNOT DEFEND ISRAEL EITHER (FROM RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT)

There is a lengthy discussion on Israpundit on Powers and “Responsibility to Protect”. These Jewish leaders in the Diaspora are in total crisis because they do not know how to fight against the phenomenon of the “Arab Spring” which is at the same time the fight against Fascism, and indeed the alliance of the capitalist powers with Islam is the making of the modern Fascist Movement.

In this context the word that is never mentioned by Ted belman, Pamela Geller, Spencer and others is Marxism or Trotskyism. Rather than the truth they try to muddy the waters on Leon Trotsky and his defence of the Jews and the Israel in the making.

I wrote the following in a comment (url below) and please understand that if you do not defend the disreputable Assad against this Fascism of “Responsibility to Protect” then you do not defend the Jews and Israel either.

 

{This is the comment}

Let us get one thing crystal clear. If anybody thinks that Romney as a Republican President would not support “responsibility to protect” then please think on, and keep on thinking.

Heck even the editor of Israpundit Ted Belman backed up a bloodthirsty call of a noted Jewish American organization on this very site to bomb the living bejasus out of Gadhafi. It is true that Ted pulled back from this but it is on record that I immediately attacked this position, which is also not only the death-knell of sovereign states as under Gadhafi but also is the end of the road for the Jewish state of Israel.

Israel and its present leaders, which includes also the total leadership in the Diaspora (the leadership of the Jews has many differing strands, being traditionally a broad church, which is good and bad actually), and includes people like Ted and Gerry Gordan plus a thousand others, are sitting ducks. This is the result of political cowardice, of deep bias against new perspectives rooted in Judaism and in the conservatism of Judaism, which historically this conservatism has its good and bad aspects.

From the beginning of the crisis in Yugoslavia I recognized that THAT was “responsibility to protect” and I fought for the independence of the Serb people to fight to hold together their unified state of Yugoslavia, while people like Gerry Gordon did not lift a finger to defend Yugoslavia, but rationalised its break-up.

Ted was shaky on this at the beginning but a chap called Bill from Canada, a lawyer, disgraced Jews forever by sitting on the fence, while Yamit82 disgraced the memory of Yamit 1982 by launching the most vicious slanders against the Serbs, culled from disreputes like Hoare.

Came to Egypt Yamit82 and others found every reason under the sun NOT TO defend Mubarak from the Muslim Brotherhood and US Imperialism cum EU cum UN cum NATO.

Ben Ali was no different, Gaghbo no different, Gadhafi no different, and now Assad.

Funny that! Not talking about THAT, eh!

There is no point at all in moaning about Power and “responsibility to protect” if you do not actively defend Assad against just this very same thing.

The thing about Ted, the “weaselie” yamit82, Gordon, Mr Barry Rubin and a thousand other Jews, (I say Jews but remember that each and every one of these speaks only for themselves) is that they can always find the words to be utterly hypocritical.

So the opposition to Obama/Powers on Syria fell to the Stalinists of China and Russia and that is an unstable foundation, because the Stalinists are reactionary to the core. They always end up supporting Imperialism because Stalinism is a creation of Imperialism, and are not Marxists, are in opposition to Marxism.

Ayers was a creation of the CIA and Jared Israel has detailed how he and his girl friend split a promising student movement in the 60s which was seeking to link the students with the American workers.

So please do not refer to Ayers as a Marxist unless you are either intellectually challenged or wilfully dishonest.

Same applies also to our friend Obama. Obama a Marxist ha ha ha!

All the evidence points to the murky hand of the CIA behind Obama also. Do not forget that the CIA protected Eichmann in South America until the Jews busted the CIA post 45 racket and caught that piece of filth.

And just remember that if you cannot defend Assad from Annan then you had best shut up about this “responsibility to protect”, and when the NATO descends on the Jews in Israel as they did on the Christians in Kosovo keep your hypocritical mouths firmly shut there also.

You have to be consistent to be believed.

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/45393/comment-page-1#comment-157592

IT SEEMS COUNTER INTUITIVE BUT THE KILLING OF BIN LADEN IS PART OF THEIR PROMOTION OF ISLAM SHARIA DICTATORSHIP

Thanks must go to many people at this moment, but including

1. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer who are bringing us news and the truth at the way that Islam is slaughtering the poor Coptic Christian people in Egypt. The days of the Coptic Church in Egypt are over.

2. Jared Israel, who approaches Egypt from another angle. he is showing that the US media, representing the whole US elite, is advancing the cause of Islam in the Middle East by means of the same methods they used against the Serbs in Yugoslavia, including the creation of the greatest lie ever spun, that of the so called “Srebrenica Massacre”

Visit their sites, Atlas Shrugs, Jihadwatch and tenc. Google them if they are new to you.

It is on these lines that we on 4international will go forward. In the next period we will expand and create a League of Workers and Working Class youth, inspired not with the dead end politics of a Bob Dylan, but with the crystal clear and inspiring for the future politics of Trotskyism, the only real revolutionary theory on earth.

 

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Muslims attacking this weekend a Coptic Church in Egypt, killing 6 Copts (picture Atlas Shrugs)

Last night I made this study of the situation, thinking over many things associated with the killing of Bin Laden. Everything I read this morning, especially a fabulous Debka report, tends to bolster my views of last night

 

KILLING OF BIN LADEN

Many times we have seen the US performing theatre on the world stage. All governments do this  but there are so many voices to the American ruling elite that it is very suited to one branch saying one thing, another a slight nuance different, and so on

 

This was particularly the case in the early stages of the destruction of Yugoslavia, when the US elites were making it appear Germany and others were making the running.

 

But when it came to the breaking up of planned putative agreements there was the US in the key, sometimes covert, role. This is not anti-American, this is observance of fact. Note I am never anti American, I base all on the defence of the basic rights associated with the First Amendment and with the gains of the Great Revolution.

 

Also remember there is the state, and then there is the state within the state.

 

Chomsky is right in one respect: Of course they knew Bin Laden was living there for 5 years, with his kids going to school etc.

 

The terrible Bin Laden crimes, not only of 9.11, but of the killings in London, Madrid, Africa (2 states), has given rise to a huge militarisation in the world

 

Islam was strengthened by the removal of Saddam, bitterest enemy on the planet to Iran.

 

How many times have Cameron and Sarkozy referred to saving the civilians or “his own people” from Muammar Gadhafi, all a lie.

 

A lie well proven by Jared Israel in his wonderful exposure of the lies of William Kristal, lead writer on the New York Times

 

We asked the simple question immediately re the Bin Laden killing: Why Now?

 

We are not always, perhaps often, right but that was indeed a key question. So we continue on this key theme in relation to the elimination of Bin Laden: why Now?

 

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT WESTERN CAPITALISM RULES THE WORLD HAND IN HAND WITH ISLAM

That is the key concept to be kept in mind on everything, including the Bin Laden kill

 

It is terribly damaging to the American people for Pamela Geller to shout “Go Seals Go”

 

This is not American patriotism on the part of Pamela, this is a complete mental block on the dangers to us all, but especially the dangers to Jews, which comes from this overall capitalism sharia alliance

 

To answer Pamela: Who needs Bin Laden and his grizzly headcutters any more, when Islam is poised with the Muslim Brotherhood and their Sharia Laws in place in so many countries today, as a result of the laughably named “Arab Spring”

 

REALITY OF THE CALIPHATE PROMOTED BY THE WEST

Sharia Law is now a feature in all of these Arab countries, especially:

 

Egypt

Tunisia

Libya

Yemen

Algeria, threatened

Saudi Arabia, threatened

Lebanon

Gaza, with Hamas from there controlling the PA

Syria is a case of from the pan into the fire

Iran, already decided

 

IN ALL OF THE ABOVE THE COMING OF THE SALAFISTS TO POWER, AND IF NOT POWER THEN KEY INFLUENCE, HAS BEEN DRIVEN FORWARD BY THE “WEST”

The kill of Bin Laden is surely part of that.

 

THE “KILL” OF BIN LADEN, BY THE “SEALS”, IS PUTTING THE CALIPHATE INTO PLACE, ACTUALLY!

Who needs Bin Laden? Not Sharia, it is far better without Bin laden now. In fact his martyrdom fits the Sharia bill perfectly.

 

Bin Laden was the man of yesterday. The Caliphate, a project of the US and the West, has been assembled in Cairo, even as the friend of the West and opponent of Sharia awaits trial and possible execution by these Salafists, which Nasser fought and which Mubarak fought.

 

Certainly a turning point!

 

ISRAELI LEADERS ARE FRIGHTENED LITTLE BUNNY RABBITS

In the face of this at every stage the Israeli and Jewish elite have been like frightened little bunny rabbits caught in the headlights.

 

But they must fight! Even this cowardly Israeli leadership must fight! Because they are also facing wipe-out in the Middle East and the ending of Israel!

 

At every point Obama has been underestimated, especially by leaders like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

 

Obama is not just some “Leftist” schooled by Rashidi and Said. As soon as the Media swung behind Obama he had the power of the US in his hands, and still has.

What Pamela and Robert leave out is the issue of state power, Obama has that state power at his finger tips, and if Pamela and Robert do not waken up to this reality, long ago enunciated by Lenin no less, they will be closed down by Obama, and worse. If the Srebrenic Lie could be spun, then so could that happen.

 

There has been much talk about Obama playing golf on the morning of the Bin Laden killing but so bloody what!

 

The fact is that the killing of Bin laden falls right into the Obama perspective, where the “moderate” (he argues) Muslim Brotherhood is promoted in the Middle East, and Hamas as part of this Muslim Brotherhood is also promoted, not by Obama directly, but by the new Egypt in lieu of Obama (shades agin of Yugoslavia US deceit).

 

MILITARY AND BROTHERHOOD ARE SEPARATE, BUT WILL UNITE TO TRY TO DESTROY ISRAEL

The Egyptian military which now rules is still the same military of Nasser, the same interests, their own essentially. So a collision with the Muslim Brotherhood will eventually come.

 

There is one foil which they have, however. That is to begin the elimination of the Jewish state of Israel.

 

Even here it will not be straight forward for these anti-Semites, including Obama. (IN DISCUSSING THESE ISSUES WE TEND TO FORGET, BUT JARED ISRAEL IS CORRECT, THE WEST IS THE DOMINANT PARTNER IN THIS EVIL ALLIANCE)

 

At what point will the American people begin to really suss out Obama, that he is essentially an anti-Semite, that he hates Israel, he hates all Israeli leaders bar none, that he is a Muslim Brotherhood man just as much as Rashidi or Said

Actually polls do show the American ordinary people do have Obama on Israel pretty well “sussed” but as of yet it is an unorganised force, and the Fascist Islam supporting “Left” keeps the working class back

 

Pamela Geller, however,  and her wonderful website is hardly likely to stand by and do nothing on this.

 

And so the struggle against Obama will go on.

 

THE KEY CONCEPT, ISLAM AND CAPITALISM HAVE JOINED FORCES

The key issue is to understand that the interests of western capitalism and the interests of Islam imperialism actually have come together at this point

 

What Geller has got to understand is that she deals with a corrupt system. She needs to reflect, that there is another history to socialism other than Pol Pot, North Korea, or Stalinism. She needs to stop calling Chomsky a leftist. That just displays her ignorance of history. There are idealists within American democracy, inspired by their Great Revolution, but that idealism must surely today be tinged with the realism associated with a system which is utterly decadent, as Jared Israel so ably shows in his exposure of the lies being spun about Egypt by The New York Times. Pamela too must change.

 

Time to make decisions. We are going to build a League of Trotskyists. Time to come forward, speak now, or die slowly.

This really is a time when leadership becomes a key issue. We on 4international do not have all the answers, and will never even think that we have, but we do believe in the working class and in working class youth, and we do believe that the best of the nationalities will come forward into this struggle