Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 00:52:59 +0100
Subject: Irish4Israel Newsletter.
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Netanyahu is a traitor to the Jews.
Absolutely totally it is not possible to have an agreement with the Palestinian Arabs because they are the Jihad. The name “Palestinians” equals Jihad!
It is in the nature of the Jihad to destroy Israel.
(See my other posts in recent days that Israeli leaders are ignoring the US and Fascist plans in Ukraine to destroy Russia. This post on Jihad is related not separate in any way)
The argument of Netanyahu and many others in the Israeli elite leaders is false to the core and is most dangerous indeed, involving millions of Jewish lives.
In its essentials Netanyahu is saying that these JIHADISTS called the “Palestinians” must recognize Israel.
That is a nonsense!
As is presented by Netanyahu on the eve of Merkel visiting Israel that is the most dangerous trap for Jews that Netanyahu is setting for the Jews.
It is written into the laws of the Koran and the Jihad that it is permissible to lie to the Kuffir.
So Netanyahu is placing the lives of millions of Jews on the line because he is disregarding this historical and contemporary truth.
It is a lie that the Jihadists, that is the Palestinian Arabs, can or ever will recognise Israel. Who is propagating the lie? Make no mistake at all it is Netanyahu and other traitors like Peres.
There is nothing at all to stop the Jihadists from SAYING that they recognise Israel. Indeed that is what Arafat did in the OSLO accords. Arafat said in English that of course he recognised Israel bla bla bla. Arafat said it hundreds of times, maybe thousands. But in Arab he said the opposite.
How are Jews today not absolutely clear on this issue!!!
Zahir Muhsein said this in 1977:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.
The Israelis were mistaken ever to play along with this charade, but it may be too late to get back to reality on that. Netanyahu’s main point, however, is sound: the “Palestinians” won’t accept the existence of the State of Israel, so how can there be a negotiated settlement? Yet they can never accept the existence of Israel, because of the principle in Islamic theology that land governed at one time by Islamic law belongs by right to the Muslims forever. Barack Obama and John Kerry, of course, either don’t know or don’t care about that.
“‘I’m Ready To Accept Palestine, Why Not Israel?,’” by Ari Yashar for Israel National News, February 24:
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu spoke on Sunday night, emphasizing that the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) refusal to recognize Israel as the Jewish state is the fundamental factor preventing peace. “Recognition of the Jewish state is a necessary condition for peace,” remarked Netanyahu.
Speaking to a German television channel in advance of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Israel visit on Monday, Netanyahu praised US Secretary of State John Kerry’s efforts to push through a peace deal between Israel and the PA.
“The only way to achieve peace is to express support for Kerry’s efforts,” claimed Netanyahu. “Together with the Palestinians, and at their head PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, we have to sit at the table and reach an agreement.”
“I’m ready to accept their existence in their country, why don’t they accept me?” asked Netanyahu, stressing that the refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state is a major roadblock to peace.
“The obstacle of the peace talks is this principle (of recognition), and not the issue of Israeli building in settlements that gets such wide criticism in the West,” argued Netanyahu. He further denied claims that construction is a key problem, saying it’s an issue that “will be solved in the talks’ framework.”
Last Friday, US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro declared the PA will be required to recognize Israel as a Jewish state in any framework agreement, a day after a PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) official claimed Abbas was ready to recognize Israel.
Abbas’s PA has previously said the Arab states “will never recognize Israel,” and as noted has repeatedly refused to recognize Israel. On Sunday, Hamas lawmakers warned that recognition of Israel would be a “death sentence” for the PA.
Kerry’s has reportedly proposed that Israel would be forced to “earn” PA recognition as a Jewish state by obligating itself through guarantees that it will not compromise the status of Israeli Arabs.
That is from Jihadwatch and we support Robert Spencer on this. he makes essentially the SAME points as we on 4international.me. But when you look at the comments there you will find total confusión. Please read them. You will understand how deep is the crisis in Jewish leadership.
What is the answer. Naftali Bennett in the Hard Talk interview made one key point above all, and that is that the Jewish youth today and in general the Jews overall are opposed to the Netanyahu programme.
Please understand me and act now before it is too late.
There is needed urgently a new and a revolutionary party in Israel. Please do not read this and then do nothing. Enter into discussion…what is the way forward. DO NOT HOLD BACK
Do read those comments I mentioned on http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/netanyahu-im-ready-to-accept-palestine-but-they-wont-accept-israel
Right Sector squads will shoot the bastards on the spot. Then there will be order and discipline AND CALLING TO MIND THE HOLOCAUST IN THE UKRAINE THIS FASCIST SAYS “HIS HAND WILL NOT TREMBLE”
Right Sector Jew Killers with roots in the Holocaust say “‘I’ll be fighting Jews and Russians till I die’: Ukrainian right-wing militants aiming for power”
The Ukrainian Fascist and Jew Hating coup has left all the Israeli leaders silent. This expresses how bankrupt they are towards the Jewish people and the sacred trust that they hold towards Jews. People like Caroline Glick are supposed to lead, not to maintain silence!
Ukraine was the country where millions of Jews perished in the Holocaust. Why are these leaders silent today?
The reason they are silent on the coup is because they are in league with US and Antisemitic US Imperialism
The coup against the democratic government in Ukraine has been masterminded by the US regime of Obama, reference the “Nuland Tape” issue, where American diplomats were caught on tape planning and plotting to do exactly what has happened. It shows that the US is behind this coup in Ukraine as part of an anti-communist drive against Russia.
In fact Lenin and Trotsky, especially the Trotsky leadership of the Civil War to defeat the Whites, stopped a certain Holocaust of all the Jews in Russia in 1918-1923
Ted Belman of the Jewish group Israpundit keeps on his blog FOR YEARS a certain Fascist who calls for the murder of communists.
Meanwhile there is general friendliness in these circles to the new anti-communist McCarthy in skirts Diana West
The only sign of life in these Jewish circles today is in Jews News who to their credit has referenced the RT article below which shows up the Antisemitism in Ukraine that lies behind the coup, and that the US Government of Obama is behind it all.
Some of the RT article includes this:
…”I warn you, if anyone in this town, this area, engages in ‘lawlessness’ and looting, Right Sector squads will shoot the bastards on the spot. Then there will be order and discipline,” one of the radical nationalist opposition group leaders, Aleksandr Muzychko, said on Friday.
On February 21, when Berkut police officers arrived in the western Ukrainian town of Rovno from Kiev, Muzychko said that if he met them on a battlefield, his hand “would not tremble.”
“I would shoot,” the Right Sector leader declared in Rovno, where his supporters have already equipped themselves with Kalashnikov rifles.
“If tomorrow these bastards [police] in Kiev won’t stop, we’ll take over military units, get hold of armored personnel carriers and tanks – we know how to operate them – and go to Kiev. Victory will be ours,” Muzychko warned earlier this week.
Aleksandr Muzychko is a notorious nationalist leader. Back in 2007 he pledged to fight against “communists, Jews and Russians for as long as blood flows in his veins,” openly saying that leading the fight against all of the above mentioned groups is his “credo.”
Back in 1994, Muzychko, aka Sashko Bilyi, arrived in Chechnya to join separatist forces. He took part in numerous battles with federal troops, mainly in the capital Grozny, and personally knocked out three tanks, six armored personnel carriers and a SP vehicle.
According to media reports, he led an entire federal forces unit (presumably the marines) into an ambush. As a result, it was destroyed by the Chechen separatists. For his military merits, the notorious Chechen militant leader, general Dzhokhar Dudayev, presented Muzychko with a “Hero of the Nation” award.
Muzychko later served a term in a Ukrainian prison for racketeering and gangsterism, but he claims it was only for political reasons.
“The next president of the country will be from Right Sector! Our party will also be represented in parliament!” he once promised.
Rioters from far-right group “Right Sector” train in Independence Square in central Kiev, January 25, 2014. (Reuters / David Mdzinarishvili)
Rioters from far-right group “Right Sector” train in Independence Square in central Kiev, January 25, 2014. (Reuters / David Mdzinarishvili)
Further unrest among opposition groups
Even though the new peace deal on early elections and constitutional reforms reached between Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich and opposition leaders was finally signed, thousands are still protesting in central Kiev. Vitaly Klitschko, opposition leader and head of the UDAR party was booed when he portrayed the latest deal as “very important.” He even attempted to speak about the agreement during a recent memorial service for a protester killed during recent clashes.
Dmitry Yarosh, Right Sector radical nationalist opposition group leader, told protesters that the deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition is unacceptable, saying their ultimate goal is Yanukovich’s resignation.
“The Right Sector will not lay down its arms,” the Unian news agency quoted him as saying. “The Right Sector will not remove the blockade of one of the government buildings until our most important requirement is fulfilled – the resignation of Yanukovich.”
The group rose to fame when its members, equipped with Molotov cocktails and bombs, clashed with police in central Kiev in mid-January.
A fighting training for opposition fighters from the Right Sector in a tent camp at Independence Square in Kiev. (RIA Novosti / Andrey Stenin)
A fighting training for opposition fighters from the Right Sector in a tent camp at Independence Square in Kiev. (RIA Novosti / Andrey Stenin)
Yarosh even proposes the liquidation of the pro-government Party of Regions and the Communist Party of Ukraine, calling them criminal groups whose activity must be stopped.
“Two anti-national groups have been acting this year in Ukraine, they are responsible for numerous misfortunes of the Ukrainian nation,” said Yarosh on his Facebook page, adding that these two groups are the Party of Regions and the Communist Party of Ukraine. He urged Right Sector members to stop the activity of these parties “by all means.”
Meanwhile, the so-called Spilna sprava (Common Cause) opposition movement is demanding that the Ukrainian Parliament, (the Verkhovna Rada) and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich, all step down.
“Unfortunately, Maidan Square is not a safe place. My detention and custody were to have been decided upon within a few hours,” says the group’s leader Aleksandr Danilyuk, a lawyer and a rights activist who was earlier involved in campaigns against former President Leonid Kuchma, said on his Facebook page.
Dmytro Yarosh (C), a leader of the Right Sector movement, addresses during a rally in central Independence Square in Kiev February 21, 2014. (Reuters / David Mdzinarishvili)
Dmytro Yarosh (C), a leader of the Right Sector movement, addresses during a rally in central Independence Square in Kiev February 21, 2014. (Reuters / David Mdzinarishvili)
“I’ve finally reached London today. Will have to coordinate in exile,” he added.
Despite the absence of its leader, Common Cause has given an ultimatum to the Kiev prison service demanding freedom for all political prisoners. If their demand is not fulfilled, then will use force, they say.
“Tonight all political prisoners will be released. We have the power and means for it,’” said an official statement of the organization.
Just several months ago, Common Cause was hardly a household name in Ukraine. When President Yanukovich thwarted an integration deal with the EU in November in favor of closer ties with Russia, Common Cause activists joined mass demonstrations calling for closer ties with Europe.
On 25 January in a bid to demonstrate their might, they held the Energy Ministry for a few hours in Kiev. The event reportedly provoked strife within the opposition, with Common Cause activists ignoring the Udar party leader’s pleas to leave the ministry. The Justice Minister, Elena Lukash, then threatened to impose a state of emergency unless the radicals gave way. The ministry was only released after a telephone conversation between the Interior Minister, Vitaly Zakharchenko, and US Ambassador to Ukraine, Jeffrey
This is the historical day of the commemoration of Kristallnacht. It is truly historical. After 75 years we have reached this day (and night)
Trotsky predicted clearly this event, this Holocaust. And in his writings especially against Fascism he provided a way forward and he provided the way that the Holocaust could be avoided.
4international is commemorating the Kristallnacht because we are rooted in the present and we are determined that through correct leadership a Holocaust of the Jews will not be repeated.
4international has thus in that spirit been hosting a series of articles, one on every day of this week. Today it is 75 years since that horrible day when the Nazis turned on the Jews of Germany, burned their synagogues, murdered and imprisoned in the camps. This led to the gassing of the Jews in the Holocaust.
The following is a short paragraph from Wikipedia on Kristallnacht:
“At least 91 Jews were killed in the attacks, and 30,000 were arrested and incarcerated in concentration camps. Jewish homes, hospitals, and schools were ransacked, as the attackers demolished buildings with sledgehammers. Over 1,000 synagogues were burned (95 in Vienna alone) and over 7,000 Jewish businesses destroyed or damaged. Martin Gilbert writes that no event in the history of German Jews between 1933 and 1945 was so widely reported as it was happening, and the accounts from the foreign journalists working in Germany sent shock waves around the world. The Times wrote at the time: “No foreign propagandist bent upon blackening Germany before the world could outdo the tale of burnings and beatings, of blackguardly assaults on defenceless and innocent people, which disgraced that country yesterday.”
The reality of the Holocaust for 4international is that Hitler could have been stopped in 1933. The German working class had many millions organised in trade unions, but the Stalinist Comintern, the Social Democratic leaders, and the trade union leaders basically betrayed their workers. The first to be arrested by Hitler in 1933 were not actually Jews but those very leaders of the trade unions who had refused to fight. Fascism shows no mercy. THEN followed the Jews. We INSIST on seeing it in that way, in that order.
www.4international.me is a true Trotskyist organization. Our organization abhors dogma. We are not religionists.
When we see something in front of our eyes we believe it. We trust in our senses just as much as our hominid ancestors believed their eyes and indeed all 5 senses.
We do not believe in or ever see the need for a sixth sense.
We see in front of us today a World Antisemitism that is the equal of the Antisemitism of the Nazis…WITH THIS EXCEPTION…Like Goldhagen we see it as worse because it is more global.
The Devil That Never Dies: The Rise and Threat of Global Antisemitism by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen (Sep 3, 2013)
A stupid person called Yamit82 who calls himself Jewish asked why we should be concerned about Jews. Answer…we are concerned about Antisemitism and we are concerned because we are Trotskyists. The question was hostile. There ARE traitors inside the Jews too.
We are opposed to people who hate Jews, hate Israel as the Jewish Homeland and also who hate Trotsky and Trotskyism.
Could we be more clear on this Kristallnacht75!
We are not talking either in an academic manner. We are building an organization…building a party…building a Trotskyist Party.
We have decided…the best way to commemorate Kristallnacht75 is to continue our work on Kristallnacht into the future days and years.
We are in solidarity with Jewish writers like Goldhagen who wrote the important book referring to Antisemitism “The Devil that Never Dies”. All of our members will study that book. But Goldhagen is deficient and does not offer any solution. We will. That is the difference.
Our central task is to build the party that will defend Israel in this critical period.
Do not ever dare to ask any of our members why we do this. The answer is we do because we are Trotskyist.
Where does Israel and the Jews, and Serbia and the Serbs, go now?
Very simply the truth is not being told to anybody. The world is literally filled with Jews and Jewish pundits who supported the overthrow of Mubarak and who wished to see the overthrow right there and then of Gadhafi
The difference between the two was very obvious. Mubarak did not realise what he was up against, that he was not just up against Egyptian protesters, but was up against the whole of US Imperialist Power, British Imperialist Power, EU Imperialist Power, and all of those in a rough but definite alliance with Arabs and Islam
(It is exactly similar to the Jews of Israel. There they go, day after day, week after week, beind the most atrocious leaders, and they do not understand how far advanced are the plans to wipe them out. Remember in the 90s, similar kind of leaders led the Serbs)
But Gadhafi who also had been in alliance with Imperialism learned from the experience, and also he was a tougher kind of person, Mubarak being more of the conservative Nasserite army man, Gadhafi having dabbled with terror etc
So Gadhafi decided to fight against this infernal US Power alliance with Islam. And it is still not over but the lesson is clear, better to fight anyway, because the images of poor Mubarak being propped up on a gurney are indeed poignant, and he is a prisoner essenctially of Qaradawi and the Muslim Brotherhood
I have always, ALWAYS, found DEBKA to be consistent. Sure they have got things wrong but the general path of their analysis and reckoning has been that Netanyahu is too close to US Power Elites, and that anyway he is unable to either comprehend or to put together a fighting strategy for the Jews.
Caroline Glick wanted Jews to support the opposition to Assad. Why? If Assad falls then there will certainly be ISLAM SHARIA in power in Syria, and Christians and Kurds will be no more.
(Start Debka report on Assad against “Palestinians” here)
Syria tanks enter Homs while fighting Palestinians in Latakia
Encouraged by the 15-day leeway granted him by the US President Barak Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, Bashar Assad Monday, Aug. 15, sent his tanks backed by mechanized infantry into Homs, a town of 1.5 million inhabitants. Witnesses report heavy shelling and clouds of smoke. Homs is Syria’s third largest town and the biggest the Syrian military has assaulted in the course of the five-month uprising against the Assad regime.
While Obama and Edrogan presented the extra time they granted Assad as his last chance to implement reforms, the Syrian ruler is making use of it to crack down harder and grind the opposition to dust. After that, the Assads will reign supreme and there will be no one left to fight for reforms.
Sunday, Aug. 14, debkafile reported on Palestinian armed resistance to Syrian tank incursions in the coastal town of Latakia.
For the first time in the five-month anti-Assad uprising, Syrian forces clashed with dissident Palestinians Sunday, Aug. 14, in the al-Raml a-Filistini district of Syria’s biggest port Latakia. As they moved toward the town center, the two Syrian tank divisions and armored infantry were challenged by Palestinians firing heavy machine guns, anti-tank RPGs and roadside bombs. Nineteen of the 24 dead Sunday were Palestinians.
debkafile’s military sources affirm that contrary to earlier reports, the Syrian missile ships cruising offshore took no part in the attack on Latakia. Their function is to blockade the port against arms smuggling. Nevertheless the weapons used by Palestinians fighting in Latakia Sunday came from Lebanon aboard smugglers’ boats. There are almost daily incidents of Syrian ships firing on suspect vessels.
NATO headquarters in Brussels and the Turkish high command are meanwhile drawing up plans for their first military step in Syria, which is to arm the rebels with weapons for combating the tanks and helicopters spearheading the Assad regime’s crackdown on dissent. Instead of repeating the Libyan model of air strikes, NATO strategists are thinking more in terms of pouring large quantities of anti-tank and anti-air rockets, mortars and heavy machine guns into the protest centers for beating back the government armored forces.
Since the Syrian air force would certainly shoot down air transports making the drops, the tendency is to get the weapons to their destination overland, namely through Turkey and under Turkish army protection by either of two routes: The Turkish plan drafted some months ago for establishing buffer zones inside the Syrian border, is one. The refugees from the battle zone would be given sanctuary there instead of crossing into Turkey and the protected enclaves would also serve as weapons distribution depots.
Alternatively, the arms would be trucked into Syria under Turkish military guard and transferred to rebel leaders at pre-arranged rendezvous.
NATO and Turkish military sources have declined to indicate when, how and by what means, the Syrian rebels, civilians with no experience in firearms, will receive the weapons.
debkafile’s military sources disclose that for the past two weeks, at least, Syrian protest leaders and army deserters have been training in the use of the new weapons with Turkish military officers at makeshift installations in Turkish bases near the Syrian border.
Also discussed in Brussels and Ankara, our sources report, is a campaign to enlist thousands of Muslim volunteers in Middle East countries and the Muslim world to fight alongside the Syrian rebels. The Turkish army would house these volunteers, train them and secure their passage into Syria.
These NATO plans were the underlying script for US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s call on unnamed nations Friday, August 12 to stop sending arms to Syria.
Our sources report she was referring to Russia which has stepped up its shipments of ammunition and tank spares in the last two weeks.
All the tanks the Syrian army is using to crush protest are made in Russia. Military sources in Washington Brussels would like to put a mechanism in place for counter-balancing the Syrian army’s hardware deliveries from Russia or Iran by Western supplies to the opponents of the Assad regime, turning the asymmetric contest into an arms race.
This is the lineup
On the one side
The Russian/Chinese Stalinists, US imperialism, EU Imperialism especially British, South American anti-Semites such as Chavez…all in league with the Iran, Syria, Hamas, Hizbullah Nazis
On the other side
Israel, Jews loyal to Israel and Judaism (NOT ALL ARE)
Christian supporters of Judaism (many especially American Christians are)
The only Trotskyist movement existing … 4international
Only we on 4international have spelled out the reality in the world today, and that is that Imperialism in its mortal economic and political crisis has joined forces with Imperialist and fascist Islam right across the political board
This alliance applies very much to the fate of Israel and the fate of Israeli Jews as they face the threat of annihilation at the hands of Iran, and the Iranian Nuclear Bomb
And it faces annihilation because the alliance as described above, an alliance of Imperialism and Islam, which also includes the Chinese/Russian Stalinists, IS FACILLITATING THE IRAN AXIS in creating the Nuclear Bomb
In Moscow talking to Russian Stalinists 2009
Read this report from Debka carefully. We on 4international alone have pointed to the consistently correct analyses and sometimes disclosures of Debka over many years.
Everything NOW hangs in the balance
What the Jews of Israel do now over coming weeks is going decide the fate of Humanity
Please read these issues here in tandem with the open letter of 4international to Women in Green and the organizers of the Hevlon Conference held in Yesha last Saturday
As Moscow prepares to block strong UN Security Council condemnation of Syrian violence against protest, Russian diplomats Monday, Aug. 1, launched a quiet effort to start freezing sanctions imposed on Iran over its military nuclear program in return for Tehran satisfactorily answering of the International nuclear watchdog’s “questions and concerns,” debkafile‘s Moscow and Washington sources report.
The Obama administration, while not involved in the Russian initiative, has indicated through contacts between US and Russian officials that if Moscow persuades Iran to go this path and another effort to break the long impasse over its nuclear program, Washington will not interfere and agrees to await results.
Moscow’s hands were therefore free to put its proposition to Tehran: Russia will block a strong UN Security Council resolution condemning its ally Syrian President Bashar Assad for his brutal crackdown on dissent, thereby shutting the door to approval of Libya-style outside military intervention. Tehran will reciprocate by cooperating with the Russian plan for solving the nuclear controversy along the lines proposed by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in mid-May: “
…each time when Tehran satisfactorily answers the questions or concerns of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it should be encouraged, including some sanctions should be frozen,” he suggested.
Until now, Tehran has rejected this Russian overture.
Over the weekend, however, debkafile‘s Iranian sources disclose that Iranian leaders decided after a stormy session to change course. The Spiritual Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei gave the order to inform Moscow that Iran is willing to discuss the Lavrov plan while fully reserving its objections. Moscow must also be ready to talk through Iran’s counter-proposals.
Accepting Tehran’s decision as the starting point for discussing the Lavrov plan, Moscow made two more public moves: An announcement in Moscow and Tehran that Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev would visit Tehran on Aug. 15, followed two days later by the arrival of Iran’s foreign Minister Saeed Jalili in Moscow.
The latter would sit down with Lavrov to hammer out agreement on the Russian plan.
On Monday, too, Russian ambassador Vitaly Churkin commented that the draft European powers had circulated condemning Syria was “somewhat excessive” and Russia would consider a presidential statement from the council “satisfactory.”
Moscow was encouraged to start meeting Tehran halfway after many Western experts came to the conclusion that the UN, US and European sanctions aimed at making Iran abandon its nuclear drive were wasted effort, with not the slightest effect on slowing Tehran’s nuclear momentum.
With little chance of a UN move against Syria, State Department Deputy Spokesman Mark Toner said Monday that additional US steps might target Syria’s oil and gas industry, which is the government’s main source of revenue amid the virtual collapse of the rest of the country’s economy.
(picture of Jewish woman in New York yesterday with placard showing that antisemitism centres on Obama and fascist “left” support for Hamas…thanks to Atlas Shrugs)
I think that many on the pro Israel blogs have the situation wrong. Every time Netanyahu speaks you are nervous, and wonder will he fight Obama or will he not? This time he did defend Israel but to think he won something over Obama is simplistic. This is because Obama speaks to a definite antisemitic audience and it is very regretful that some of these antisemites are Jews who are American, not all American Jews of course, but a significant section. Obama was speaking to antisemitism 2 days ago. Netanyahu with Barak in his Cabinet has no answer for that and yesterday did not or could not address that problem. Barak and Livni are both antisemites in a very particular way just as much as is Chomsky…
I take quite a different attitude to the Netanyahu/Obama meeting of the press yesterday. I do hope that many Americans saw Obama as an anti-Semite and that Netanyahu helped them to see this.
But I do really question why would the leader of this proud Jewish people be coming across to Washington at all, or to America at all, except in the context of talking directly to the ordinary American people who hate Obama, and to directly oppose Obama
CORRECT POLICY…ORGANIZE IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA
The correct policy of Netanyahu would be to expel Barak from his Cabinet, and rather than travel to Washington, travel down to Judea and Samaria, misnamed the West Bank, and help to organize the wonderful Jewish patriots who live there, and to mobilize all Israelis behind these Jewish patriots. That was the correct place for Netanyhahu.
Netanyahu and all Jews must oppose the Palestine state immediately, totally and out in the open
There is not the slightest doubt that Obama is an anti-Semite. There are many various types of anti-Semite and Obama is one that has emerged out of this so-called “leftist” Palestinian Arab movement and all that that entails.
ROOTS OF OBAMA ANTISEMITISM LIE IN NAZIS AND HAJJ AMIN EL HUSSEINI
The roots of Obama are in the Nazi Hajj Amin el Husseini personality which this so-called “left” has taken to its heart, and has done so by deliberately hiding his record as playing a great part alongside of Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann in the Holocaust.
Yes Obama is that kind of anti-Semite. In public always talks about Israeli security even. But definitely anti-Semitic!
And where Obama goes there goes all his followers, including whatever Jews in America even at this late stage are still supporting this political creep.
Thus do not be mistaken. The speech which Obama gave on the day before Netanyahu, Prime Minister of the Jewish Homeland, was the speech of a deep anti-Semite.
Furthermore, do not be mistaken that Netanyahu won the battle of words in the interview with the press which both gave after their meeting on that following day.
The speech of Obama in which the central theme was the setting up of a Palestine Arab state, and that the setting up of that state was to help with the security of Jews, that was the principle provocation.
OBAMA DIRECTS HIS SPEECHES TO ANTISEMITES OF THE WORLD
But this provocation was not directed so much against Israel, as it was directed towards the anti-Semites in this world, and there are indeed many
It was a speech which has its parallel only in the speeches of Hitler, Himmler and the Nazis.
To the ordinary person who has been fed these Arab lies, to ask for the setting up of a Palestine Arab state is a good thing.
To ask for the setting up of this state whose borders are the 1967 lines, well this means only the one thing. Which is that the war of 1967 was an aggressive war of Jews against “Palestinians”.
This has a further connotation. That is that not only was the 1967 war an aggressive war by Jews against inferior Arabs, but that the 1948 war also was an aggressive war by Jews against inferior Arabs.
That is the narrative of lies and is the narrative of contemporary anti-Semitism
THE SAME ANTISEMITIC AUDIENCE AS IN PASTOR WRIGHT’S CHURCH
So in my opinion Obama knew exactly what he was doing, he knew exactly what his target audience was, it was precisely that audience that he was part of for 20 years when he sat in Pastor Wright’s Church with his wife by his side and listened once again for 20 years to that anti-Semite
In Florida the support among Jews for Obama has dropped from 80 per cent plus to 32 per cent.
Good you might say! But there is still 32 per cent in Florida who are supporting this anti-Semite.
THE MOST LETHAL OF ALL ANTISEMITES ARE JEWS LIKE CHOMSKY
It was this 32 per cent that Obama was addressing. The most lethal enemies of the Jews, are in fact Jews like Chomsky. That is the people who Obama was addressing.
He was also addressing large immigrant layers in America who are ignorant of these issues.
And Obama lines up along with the worst anti-Semites in the black population of America such as Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton, who are also of course great enemies of ordinary blacks, who need to ally against antisemitism.
Thus Obama knows very well the situation and he knows his audience, with the clear knowledge of an anti-Semite.
HAVE YOU STUDIED HITLER AND THE NAZIS RECENTLY?
Anybody who studies Hitler and the Nazis knows with what great care and secrecy that Hitler proceeded on this issue.
It is much the same with Obama.
Obama deep in his psyche wants to see the destruction of Israel and the Jewish Homeland.
From the moment I first learned of this man I immediately, years ago, associated him with the ISM, or in Ireland the IPSC (Irish Palestine Solidarity Campaign)
Obama comes precisely out of that political constituency, Rashidi, Said and Ayers
OBAMA IS MUCH WORSE THAN THAT 67 BORDERS SPEECH
Why do people presume they know Obama from this speech? He is much, much worse.
The real danger of Obama resides in the constituency of anti-Semitism that he is reaching out to.
This constituency of anti-Semitism is precisely:
When it comes down to it this encompasses a great swath of American Jewry.
WHERE THE BATTLE MUST BE FOUGHT:
This is where the battle has to be fought.
The issue of Bush has to be brought uip. It was Bush and the Jewish neocons like Richard Perle who insisted on the war to destroy Saddam, thus greatly strengthening Iran, and did this against the position and advice of Sharon, who (privately unfortunately) urged Bush to leave Saddam alone.
More than anything else it was a result of that war on Saddam that drove Sharon to plunge into the morass like a madman and withdraw from Gaza
This is what I think and I really do believe this:
The leaders in American Jewry are sheer poison and this poison is seen in their position more than anywhere else on Gadhafi and Libya
And they do so sounding so Jewish.
But the US and the West had an agreement with Gadhafi in the fight against the Muslim Brotherhood. Gadhafi kept to his part of the agreement. But the US elite broke that trust. Hence the present war on Gadhafi.
NOT ONE JEWISH LEADER IN AMERICA CALLED FOR VICTORY TO GADHAFI AGAINST NATO AND OBAMA…NOT ONE!
But not ONE of these American Jewish leaders, from the worst of them, to the best of them, has been able to take a position of opposing their own class rulers and to call for victory to Gadhafi over NATO.
I mean not one!
And that represents the deep crisis in American Jewry and in world Jewry.
It means that in the major battles ahead, in the fight against world anti-Semitism, they will not provide an answer. They will only betray the Jews, every dammed one of them!
There is only the one way forward… That is to start slowly, patiently, dealing with history in a truthful manner, and thereby overturn the lies of this “Palestinian” Arab narrative.
That is why on our sister website www.wedefendisrael.com we are preparing at this moment an exhaustive series of history articles and it is only here that you will find the truth. Write and give your opinioon, mark it private if you wish, in space below.
by Felix Quigley
April 23, 2009
Joshua Rosenburg has drawn attention to a recent article by Carl Savich which deals with the antics of a very notorious character (His name is Marko Attila Hoare) and associate of Oliver Kamm of the Times of London, also a close associate of the equally notorious Harry´s Place website. We deal once again with this man going under the very peculiar name, let me repeat it for effect, in case our readers are unfamiliar…Marko Attila Hoare !
This study is all the more important because it deals with aspects of Holocaust Denial.
[Begin study of Marko Attila Hoare here]
British Marxist, anti-Serbian nutjob & former Hague ICTY/NATO employee, Marko Attila Hoare and the Monty Python “Heinrich Himmler” sketch faux pas.
Hoare is again proven an egregious liar about Alija Izetbegovic’s resurrected Bosnian Muslim Nazi “Handschar” [aka "Handzar"] division in this great article by Serbian-American historian, Carl Savich.
“Fact versus Delusional Fantasy: The Bosnian Muslim Government Reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar”
April 19, 2009 – 12:58 pm
Marko Attila Hoare rejects and suppresses this factual image of Bosnian history in favor of a fantasy or delusional image from a television comedy. The real Heinrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) reviewing the real or “historical” Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar, 1943.
Did the Bosnian Muslim Army and Government reform or recreate the infamous Nazi SS Division Handzar or not? Based on Martko Attila Hoare’s response to my article, Hoare now concedes that, indeed, there was a formation in the Bosnian Muslim Army termed the “Handzar Division”.
Let me reiterate that. Hoare admitted that the Bosnian Muslim Government did indeed reform the Handzar Nazi SS Division of World War II. When you cut through and deconstruct all the indeologically-driven claptrap, innuendo, ad hominen, personal attacks, this is the conclusion that he reaches.
Hoare is so caught up in his own arrogance and conceit that he does not even notice that he admitted this fact.
The issue or question is and always was: Did the Bosnian Muslim Government have a unit in its ranks known as the Handzar Division? Hoare’s reply is: Yes.
Marko Attila Hoare used this fantasy image to illustrate his article on the reformed Bosnian Muslim Handzar Nazi SS Division. Michael Palin is shown as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler), John Cleese as Mr. Hilter (Adolf Hitler), and Graham Chapman as Ron Vibbentrop (Joachim von Ribbentrop), from a 1970 episode of Monty Python’s Flying Circus. Reality is rejected over delusional fantasy constructs.
Hoare, nevertheless, convinces himself that he was “vindicated” in denying the existence of the reformed Handzar Division. How does he do this? His rebuttal consists of challenging the strength of the reformed Handzar Division. Now that he admits that it existed, he now challenges the size of the formation. His argument is: The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!
The Holocaust as joke? Michael Palin as Heimlich Bimmler (Heinrich Himmler) in a 1970 comedy sketch. Isn’t Hoare a Holocaust denier? Fact: Bosnian Muslims, Albanian Muslims, and Croats played a role in the real Holocaust.
But is this a valid argument? Is someone pregnant or not? Can you be pregnant by degree? Is someone dead or not? Can you be only dead to a small degree? Did the Bosnian Muslim Army recreate the Handzar Division or not? This requires a simple yes or no answer. What Hoare initially challenged and questioned was the existence of the division. To be sure, he hedged his bets and cheated by conceding that the division might exist “conceivably” but that its number was small in size.
Hoare hedged his bets this way: “[I]t is conceivable that there really was a handful of Muslim zealots who, during the recent war, fought on the Bosnian side and grandiloquently named themselves the ‘Handžar Division’ after this historic unit.”
Hoare, in essence, denied that the division existed at all. This was the gist of his article. Now he admits and concedes that it, in fact, existed. Now he argues that the unit or formation was a small one. It is hard to pinpoint exactly what he claimed because he constantly changes his arguments and contentions.
Fact versus delusional fantasy? This is a factual image of the real Henrich Himmler (Heimlich Bimmler) with the real Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Hnadzar which Hoare has suppressed and repressed. Delusional fantasy is more reassuring than factual reality.
A fair characterization of his initial argument was that there was no evidence for the reformation of the Handzar Division. The eyewitness account of military analyst and journalist Robert Fox was deemed not credible. Hoare disingenuously hedged his argument by claiming that “conceivably” it could have existed. The way to translate this argument is: No, the Handzar Division was not reformed. But, nevertheless, it is possible it may have been reformed. Of course, this is nonsensical and absurd.
Hoare then concluded: “Monty Python is a much better source for accurate historical information than Neil Clark and his comrades.”
So was the Handzar Division reformed or not? In his rebuttal to my article, Hoare now admits that the Handzar Division was reformed. He again hedges his bets by claiming this time that it was a small unit formed by “zealots”. But, again, the size of the unit or formation was never the question or issue. If there was a small unit or formation in the U.S. Army or British Army termed the “Adolf Hitler Regiment” or “Das Reich Division”, would it be relevant or material that the unit in question was only made up of “a handful” of “zealots”? Now that the existence of the unit is accepted and acknowledged, the issue shifts to the size of the unit, which is unknown.
Hoare concluded: “It would seem that the ‘Handžar Division’, confidently described as numbering ‘about 6,000 troops’ by our friend, does indeed turn out to be a bit smaller when the available evidence is examined closely.”
Hoare here mischaracterized Fox’s original statement by quoting my estimate of the strength of the unit. Fox stated that UN peacekeeping “officers” had told him that the reformed “Handzar Division” was “up to 6,000-strong.” Fox emphazied that the strength of the unit was an approximation or estimate made by UN observers. Fox refers to the formation as a “unit” and as an element of the Bosnian army. Hoare ignores this explicit language and now argues that Fox claimed that the reformed unit consisted of “about 6,000 troops”. But nowhere does Fox state that the unit was made up of 6,000 troops. The phrase “up to 6,000-strong” could encompass any number from one member to 6,000 members. Moreover, Hoare ignored that fact that Fox referred to the formation as a “unit” in his report leaving the actual size open to debate. Fox referred to the members of the unit as “Handzars” and as “[h]ardline elements of the Bosnian army, like Handzar.” Fox wrote that the formation was a “unit” of the Bosnian army similar to other units: “The Handzars are working closely with other units around Fojnica. ” But even at 6,000 men, it would only have ranked as a regiment or brigade, which usually consist of up to 5,000 men, not a division, which is generally accepted as a formation of 10,000 men or more. In short, the focus or emphasis of the Fox report was the existence of the unit, not the size, on which issue Fox only proffered a potential maximum figure that was based on a UN estimate.
Finally, Hoare rejected Fox’s 1993 news report from the London Daily Telegraph out of hand, but this was not done by the Republican Policy Committee of the United States Senate, which cited Fox’s report as credible and accurate. In a January 16, 1997 report, the Committee, chaired at the time by U.S. Senator Larry E. Craig, Republican from Idaho, noted that “there exists another group known as the Handzar (’dagger’ or ’scimitar’) Division” and quoted from Fox’s report. Thus, members of the U.S. Senate, tasked with safeguarding the lives of U.S. troops, found Fox’s report to be factual, credible, and accurate. Only Marko Attila Hoare questioned the veracity and accuracy of the Fox report. Absurdly, the Bosnian Muslim Government or Army never denied the existence of the reformed “Handzar Division”. Only Hoare has done this. At the war crimes trials of Bosnian Muslim military commanders at the ICTY, the existence of the “Handzar Division” as part of the Bosnian Muslim Army is openly acknowledged and detailed.
The translation is: The Bosnian Muslim Government of Alija Izetbegovic reformed the Nazi SS Division Handzar during the 1992-1995 civil war. This is the only logical conclusion when one cuts through all of Hoare’s labels and propagandistic nomenclature.
Hoare uses a bevy of labels to do the thinking for him: “Serb-nationalists” (yes, with a hyphen!), “Milosevic supporters” (at least Hoare gets the correct pronunciation of his name with the correct Serbo-Croat form of his name), “Islamofascist” (no hyphen, a neologism popular after 9-11), “members of a US-based circle of Milosevic supporters and Srebrenica deniers” (an analogy with Holocaust deniers), “Great Serbia” (a propaganda term coined by Austria-Hungary before World War I), “ex-Maoist” (is that a good or a bad thing?), “Milosevic-supporting, Srebrenica-denying website” (hyphenated now, denoting an activity), “all good Chomskyites” (are there such people as “Chomskyites” out there?), “Serb nationalists and their supporters” (no hyphen; do “Serb nationalists” have supporters?), “Serb nationalists and their fellow travellers” (didn’t this term go out with the Joseph McCarthy Communist Witch Hunts during the 1950s Red Scare?), and “the Great Serbia supporters”.
How can one explain this plethora of labels? Why does Hoare use such preposterous and risible labels? We use labels to preclude thought or thinking. Labels are a shortcut to thinking and intellectual debate or discusiion. In fact, labels are meant to preclude or prevent any thought at all. This is why Hoare uses labels. They are mindless and senseless. Why use them then? In essence, Hoare does not want to debate or discuss these issues rationally or logically. He thus engages in the use of labels, what is termed “name calling” in propaganda analysis. In propaganda, we use “pulpit words” or “glittering words” to describe ourselves and our own actions and the opposite words to describe our opponents. In short, Hoare wants to preclude any thought or debate. This is why he resorts to such propagandistic words. There is no thought or thinking going on, no discussion or debate or dialectic. There is only a stream of pre-selected labels or prejudiced or loaded words. It is like when Polonius asked Hamlet what he was reading: “Polonius: What do you read, my lord? Hamlet: Words, words, words.”
The case is closed. As Detective Steve McGarrett would say to Detective Danny Williams, “Book ‘em, Danno!”
[end study of Marko Attila Hoare here]
The great strength of this study is that it shows that Marko Attila Hoare is responsible for a great revision of history, which is essentially what he does when he makes a joke about an aspect of the Holocaust in the Balkans.
Let us be very clear here. The Handzar division was a Nazi SS Division, and was created out of the forces of Islam in the Balkans.
To deny that is bad, but to deny as Hoare does that that was recreated by Izetbegovic is the most dangerous of all.
Because if you do that then you are saying that the study by Christopher Simpson in “Blowback” and in all the studies of the actions and words of Ahmadinejad in the present are of no relevance.
That another Holocaust is not possible!
That is the great fact that all on this British Imperialist Labourist wing surrounding Kamm, Harry´s Place, the British Media in total except for one noted journalist Eve Ann Prentice, worked might and main to keep hidden during the 90s and indeed since to this very day!
And that is where the Savich claim about Marko Attila Hoare Holocaust Denial is located. They are all guilty of this.
We on 4international have also met Jewish people who did not want to know about this aspect of history, or like Bill Narvey of Israpundit claimed that it had no relevance to today.
We also think that at the centre of all of the Fascist Leftist posturing of today on Israel lies a deep form of Holocaust Denial.
Behind the antics of people like Sinead Cusack now canvassing for her Israel hating son today in Ireland and wider is another form of truth denial, because what is denied is the situation of the Shoah which made it imperative to found Israel.
In fact all attacks that I see being made on Israel today, whether it is in Fatah and Abbas, in Hamas, in Hizbullah, or Iran…all are forms of Holocaust Denial.
There is another distortion which I would like our readers to understand acutely.
It was Leon Trotsky who emerged in the 1930s as the greatest advocate for Jewish nationalism, which he promoted because he had made a deep study of Fascism, and saw the great danger to the Jews from the Nazis.
For some reason the Lefts and “Trotskyists” have also hidden this aspect of history.
And in a strange way these things have come back together again in the grave danger to the Jews of Israel and all the Jews in the Diaspora from a combination of Fascist Islam and Fascist US Foreign policy (of Bush and Obama)
While we on 4international alone continue to fight to defend the Jews of Israel and insist that Israel has no choice but to wage war on the Iranian Nuclear agenda.
We do not wish this. But like Trotsky in the 1930s we are realistic and we try to emulate the realism of Trotsky re 1930s Fascism in the situation of today.
The essence of Hoare, and essentially also of Harry´s Place, Nick Cohen, Maggie O´Kane et al, in the following
The reformed Handzar Division did exist, as you claimed, but it was very small. It was a little bitty Nazi SS Division, not a big bad full-sized Nazi SS Division!
In their analysis of Marko Attila Hoare, in their insisting on his attempts of making a joke out of the Holocaust in the Balkans showing him as a real danger to Jewish people, Joshua and Carl have brought us a great deal further forward.
by Felix Quigley
April 21, 2009
The clock is now ticking down to war between Israel and Iran, with the US Government lining up with Iran, that is with the Iranian Fascist regime, and everything about the US Fascists, Nazis and Jew Haters, and their alliance with their pet babies the Iranian Fascists right out in the open.
This is now totally unavoidable, as surely as night follows day.
This is what we on 4international have said consistently for at least 2 years. We base our analysis on a number of things.
1. That the Jews are indeed a real nation
2. That Islam is antisemitic to the core. The real essence of the Arab rulers in the Arab League and all those Islamist countries in the UN is to prevent Infidels having a base in THEIR lands.
3. The Mullahs of Iran are motivated by Jew Hatred just as much as were the German Nazis
4. In fact during the Holocaust there was at every level close relations between Islam and the German Nazis. That is fact, hidden but easily proven.
The key to the whole situation is the US Government and how the US elite and to some extent the EU elite is lining up with Islam.
The reason for this is extremely simple and if you are a Trotskyist just a little obvious. They both seek a union together against the threatened socialist revolution.
The following report from DEBKAfile will have to be digested with some urgency:
[Begin DEBKAfile report here]
dated April 21, 2009
DEBKAfile‘s military sources cite some Western intelligence and nuclear weapons experts as predicting that Iran could turn out nuclear weapons some time in the next 12 months.
This estimate is based on Tehran’s announcement that 7,000 centrifuges are in operation to enrich uranium. If all those machines were to work at top speed day and night, seven days a week, they could produce enough weapons-grade uranium to build a bomb in 60 days, say some intelligence sources. According to American experts, given the current rate of the program’s development, Iran will be in a position to manufacture as many as 60 nuclear bombs and warheads in 12 to 18 months.
This judgment was confirmed by Israel’s military intelligence (AMAN) chief, Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin in his latest briefing to the cabinet Monday, April 20. He reported that Iran is going all-out for enriched uranium from overseas to shorten the process.
Japanese sources recently reported that a North Korean boat shipped a large quantity to Iran earlier this year. According to the big-circulation The Nikkei, the North Korean vessel’s hold carried a secret cargo of uranium highly-enriched to 50-60 percent. The ship set out for Iran in December, moving moved at a leisurely pace so as not to call attention from Western spy satellites, surveillance vessels and warships. Earlier this year, the illegal consignment was dropped at an Iranian port for transport to a facility near Tehran, according to the Japanese paper.
Yadlin noted that extreme economic crisis has not delayed Tehran’s headlong nuclear progress or curtailed its designs on other Middle East countries – Hizballah’s subversive activities in Egypt are not a lone instance. Inflation is officially put at 30 percent but is probably closer to 50 percent, while unemployment is deepening, yet Tehran upped the 2009 appropriation for its nuclear program by 15 percent.
Rather than translating the crisis into leverage for persuading Iran to abandon its nuclear objectives, the Israeli intelligence chief noted that the Obama administration has opened the door to dialogue with all the extremists of the Middle East, including Iran, albeit “with open eyes.”
Iran, for its part, is accelerating its nuclear program, taking full advantage of the undercover communications with Washington which are aimed at gaining Tehran’s cooperation for the US war effort in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
DEBKAfile Special Report
If as we on 4international believe that the Jews are a nation, and have been for thousands of years, then a number of things follow
1. There is no alternative. Israel must make war on the Mullahs, and specifically the Nuclear Bomb making of the Mullahs
2. The Mullahs are not an ordinary opponent, they are an opponent which denies the Holocaust. Logically that means that they have a new Holocaust of the Jews in mind
3. Israel will attack. That is the historical role of Netanyahu and his colleague Lieberman
4. Because without that attack the Jewish nation is as good as dead.
And that is what is spelled out in the Debka report above and is the esence of the position of 4international. Israel must act! Israel must be supported by all socialists and progressive peoples. That support given the power of antisemitism has to be fought for.
by Felix Quigley
February 26, 2009
We on 4international stand totally behind the Jews of the world and of their Homeland Israel.
There has been a huge rise in antisemitism in every part of the world. In Paris 2 years ago a young Jewish person was murdered. In Paris in recent weeks during the Gaza War there has been a massive increase in attacks on Jews.
One of the results is that in Paris the home of the Renaissance Jews have been advised not to go out on the streets after 7 oclock in the evening, and that they should not appear as Jew, meaning to watch what they wear and how they look, headgear etc.
This is due to 2 things.
One is the massive influx of Arabs into France, Arabs who are really Islamists. They are carrying on an invective against Israel.
The second is the role of the modern Media. It was seen in the Mohammed El Durra France 2 affair that the French Media was totally hostile to Israel.
Consequently these antisemitic Arabs in Paris have an unchallenged right to attack Israel politically and Jews physically. Along with that movements which call themselves erroneously “Leftist” are fully joined at the hip with Islam; Marx Lenin and Trotsky are spinning in their graves I am sorry to say.
All of these things mean a huge increase in the level of antisemitism.
One of the very worst things which came to a head during the Gaza war was the intense propaganda against Israel. I live in Spain and it was coming from all sides, from the Media and from confused Spanish people, confused by the lies of the Media
Let me go over a few things.
1. The Jews withdrew from Gaza. I mean every single last Jew left Gaza and handed the area over to the Arabs. The Jews even left the Arabs property such as green houses which could be used by the Arabs to help them on their way. The Jews also even left synagogues which stripped of the contents Jews look on as mere buildings. But they were sound concrete structures. They could have been used as youth clubs. The Arabs tore them down stone by stone.
2. But then the Arabs of Gaza promptly elected a Fascist Nazi movement of Jew killers, Hamas, who then stepped up their attacks on Israel. Materially with rockets. Verbally by calls to wipe Israel off the map etc. (They are supporters of Ahmadinejad)
IT CAME DOWN TO A CONCRETE PROBLEM…HOW COULD THE JEWS STOP THE ROCKETS
So basically Israel had to decide how to stop the rockets. It is a fact that the Israeli Labourist Kadima Government members were very weak and unpatriotic and allowed Jews to suffer these rockets for many years.
Still that is not my point here.
Those who have attacked Israel must say 2 things
1. They must say that Israel has to simply absorb these rocket attacks on their state. This is antisemitism in action. Is that not clear!
2. They must say that Israel must give in to these attacks on its people and follow the agenda of these antisemitic Arab terrorists which means
*pack up their bags and leaving their Homeland set out on their travels around the world once more as a stateless people
*return to the lines of 1967, from where they were attacked actually in 1967 by Nasser and the other Arab states. So why?
Both of these are also obviously antisemitic suggestions to put to Jews.
Becoming again a persecuted people is antisemitic suggestion. No?
Returning to lines which the Arabs used to attack before is antisemitic suggestion as well. No?
And in our next part we will look at some of these antisemitic ideas in action in the West of today.
I take the following from the Harry´s Place website despite certain differences with the organizers there
In the first they take a quote from the notorious Israel hater George Galloway. Here Galloway is comparing the Jews to nazis.
“In April and May of 1943, the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto were surrounded by barbed wire fences, by the occupiers of Poland, and they faced a choice, in the words of the song of the partisans: ‘They could die on their knees or they could live forever’. And they chose to rise up against their occupier, to use their bodies as weapons, to dig tunnels, to fight, not to die in ones and twos of hunger and typhus, but to die as free men and women. Today, the Palestinian people in Gaza are the new Warsaw Ghetto, and those who are murdering them are the equivalent of those who murdered the Jews in Warsaw in 1943.”
So in that quote from Galloway it is clear that the Palestinians of Gaza are the Jews of the Holocaust and that the Jews today of tiny Israel are the Nazis
And the same kind of thing is seen in the next set of pictures. There is the attack on Jews as being Nazis and carrying out a Holocaust of the Arabs.
But 1300 Arabs were killed and Hamas killed some of these through executions etc. Also Hamas set up so that the Israelis had to kill civilian Arabs. I mean it is quite possible to do this.
The British Muslim Initiative, one of the organisers of the demonstrations, put it on their placards:
As did the Palestinian Forum in Britain:
So this is conscious.
This is an attempt to make the Jews of Israel out to be Nazis.
And this we argue on this site is the preparation for a new Holocaust of the Jews. Nothing ever is as it seems. And when people argue that the Jews are the Nazis of today then that is going to result in a Holocaust of the Jews.
It is such an enormous lie that it must have the most severe intent and implications.
By Felix Quigley
June 20, 2008
This is a very amazing story, and although it may not seem on the surface to be, it has got great implications for the Jewish struggle for national liberation and freedom.
The wonderful Jewish news service IsraelNationalNews has just carried a story concerning a Jewish man of whom very little is known outside of Israeli and Jewish circles, and sometimes if truth be told not even there as well.
It concerns a man called Hillel Kook and his memory and it involves what is known as Yad Vashem, which is the authority set up to conserve the memory of the Holocaust (in the words of Google…Yad Vashem’s task is to perpetuate the legacy of the Holocaust to future generations so that the world never forgets the horrors and cruelty …) Continue reading
by Felix Quigley
Israpundit is a very important site for the Jewish people especially now that there has to be organized a great discussion on just how Israel can face up to its enemies.
The news which has emerged from a source within the talks going on between the Israeli ruling class of Livni and Olmert, with the Palestinian Arab fascists presided over by the US Imperialists of Bush, led in the talks by Rice, shows the enormous dangers which Israel and the lives of all Jews are in. This is why we on 4international are very critical of some of the discussions that are taking place there. The most recent issue is over the issue of apostasy and the general position of religion in the Jewish strugggle. Nobody really likes tackling this but it has to be tackled head on if we are to have the discussion necessary for the saving of Israel from its enemies. Continue reading
By Felix Quigley
Israel is now in the greatest danger that it has ever been in during all of its life. We on 4international have repeatedly emphasised that the way in which Yugoslavia was destroyed (wiped off the map) was through an alliance of American, British and German Imperialism which set up reactionary alliances with Fascist/Nazi entities within Yugoslavia. Those entities were the Fascists around Tudjman in Croatia, the Islamofascists in Bosnia around Izetbegovic, and the Thaci/Haradinaj Fascists and Stalinists of Kosovo. Weak on their own, nevertheless the role of US and NATO/EU Imperialism with all of its power, especially Military power linked to Media power, meant that the Serbs were isolated and defeated. Much of this went on behind the scenes, the public were not aware because the public always underestimates the role of conspiracy and secrecy in how the ruling Capitalist class works.
This is the great danger to the Jews today. Continue reading
By Felix Quigley
On 4international we intend to follow this man. His name is Ramush Haradinaj, everybody knows he is a killer and has murdered in cold blood many ordinary Serb peasants and simple country folk, we on 4international have already proved that and have exposed the alliance of the US and EU Imperialists with this killer of Serbs, an alliance which goes to the very tops of the US Elite, to Bush, Lieberman, Cheney, Holbrooke and McCain. Continue reading
by Felix Quigley
It is completely impossible to silence Trotskyism in this period because - just as in 1933 - only the policies and political programme of Leon Trotsky, the great Russian Revolutionary Socialist leader, could have saved the lives of 6 millions of Jews who were to perish at the hands of the Fascist Nazis. So therefore the recent horrific attack on Leon Trotsky by Sultan Knish just cannot stand. Continue reading
By Felix Quigley
On November 15, 2007 the results of a very important and comprehensive poll of Israeli Jewish people was taken. The people who carried out this poll were of the highest integrity. The results were interpreted by IMRA. What is happening in the world today is massive lying about reality. We experienced this on the whole issue of Yugoslavia, it is happening in relation to China and Tibet, it is happening in relation to Russia and the encirclement of Russia by Bush’s US Imperialism, and it is happening in all of the lies told against Israel. Continue reading
Just a few days ago, the imperialist US/NATO owned and controlled ICTY Kangaroo Court in the Hague, Netherlands, released the Islamist Nazi KLA mass murderer, Ramush Haradinaj.
That they would do this was predicted in early 2005, by Gregory Copley, the president of the prestigious and world-renowned International Strategic Studies Association - the parent organization of the Defense & Foreign Affairs group of publications, based in Alexandria, Virginia, in the Washington, D.C. area of the United States. See their reports on ex-Yugoslavia here:
What follows is indisputable proof that the United States government – both Republican and Democrat administrations - planned IN ADVANCE all along the early release - or total immunity from prosecution - of virtually every one of the Islamist Nazi terrorist Albanian KLA mass murderers led by Hashim Thaci(e.g. Agim Ceku and Ramush Haradinaj); the Bosnian SDA Islamofascist murderers led by Alija Izetbegovic (e.g. Naser Oric in June 2006); and the Croatian Ustasha Nazi mass murderers led by the late Franjo Tudjman and Stipe Mesic (e.g. Ante Gotovina,Tomislav Mercep, Dobrosav Paraga ).
This repetitive US,NATO/EU intervention on behalf of Islamofascist/Nazi killers of innocent civilians in furtherance of Western geostrategic imperialism (expansion) in the Balkans - with the result being the European expansion of Fascist Islam - has very grave implications not just for the people of Serbia and the rest of Europe, but also grave implications for Israel and the Jewish people.
Ex-Clinton administration “peace envoy” Richard Holbrooke – beneficiary of the Albanian KLA Islamist Nazi Narco-Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia – gets the president of the US/NATO owned and controlled Hague ICTY Kangaroo Court to free the ex-Kosovo “Prime Minister” and KLA Islamist Nazi war criminal – Ramush Haradinaj – IN ADVANCE of his totally phony “surrender” and “trial” at the Hague ICTY:
By Felix Quigley
Sultan Knish …what sort of a name is that! It is obviously a fake name and unlike Israpundit, I do not like our writers on 4international to use anything other than their real names. All the same, this really made me laugh:
Sultan introducing his blog:
But I am a revolutionary socialist, Mr Knish, a Trotskyist, and I do not give two figs for all of that top brass in the Jewish world acknowledgement. They might just all be gullible, and wrong. So I will take what he writes about a known enemy of Israel and see how he fares. Quote from Knish first…what I make of his politics following… Continue reading
This is a report just out from Exodus Times of today, Thursday April 4, 2008. We are talking once more of gas in the context of the killing of Jews. The links with the Nazi Holocaust, with the founder of the Palestinian Arab movement by main Palestinian Arab and Holocaust Nazi organizer Hajj Amin el Husseini is obvious. In the eyes of these Arab Fascists, like Hamas, Fatah and Hezbullah, the Holocaust did not end. Meanwhile the main issue facing humanity, not just Jews, the threat of Iranian Fascist Mullahs, to bomb Israel with Nuclear, remains the main existentialist question above all others facing Israel. Continue reading
Posted by Nathan Pearlstein
Soon, in all parks and public transport vehicles, a new inscription appeared: “Entry forbidden to all Serbs, Jews, Gypsies, and dogs.” The Ministry of the Interior, led by Andrija Artukovic, issued the following decree: “All the Serbs and the Jews residing in Zagreb, the Capital of Croatia, must leave the town within 12 hours. Any citizen found to have given them shelter will be immediately executed on the spot.”
The sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century
Avro Manhattan (1914-1990)
Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. A resident of London, during WW II he operated a radio station called “Radio Freedom” broadcasting to occupied Europe. He was the author of over 20 books including the best-seller The Vatican in World Politics, twice Book-of-the-Month and going through 57 editions. He was a Great Briton who risked his life daily to expose some of the darkest secrets of the Papacy. His books were #1 on the Forbidden Index for the past 50 years!!
A sensational account of the most horrifying religious massacre of the 20th century. Startling revelations of forced conversions, mass murder of non-Catholics, Catholic extermination camps, disclosures of Catholic clergy as commanders of concentration camps; documented with names, dates, places, pictures and eyewitness testimony. Continue reading