Leon Trotsky had alone in the world predicted exactly this, the Holocaust, in 1938 in a clear defence of the Jewish people…historical fact! The situation today has got definite similarities…
(Sinister examples (two) of Arab propaganda on an Irish website)
…That is right, justify killing those babies with drones and attack helicopers. Hamas are horrible but so is the IDF’s Ethnic clensing. Try not to be so one eyed.
Israel and Hamas – is there that much of a difference.
…Look at what Israel did to the Black Jews, Apartheid South Africa didn’t even try that.
It is a crazy pariah state.
The crazy spelling is in the original. The names used are fictional anyway.
I do not totally blame them. Certainly I do not get emotionally involved. They are following a narrative, a story that they have been told. It was expertly told as many lies can be or there would be no successful conmen in our world, but as we have ALL found out there are. It is the “Palestinian Narrative”!
All Jewish people must be quite aware that this kind of propagandist Antisemitism is going on all the time. What though to do about it?
Most will shrug their shoulders and see it as beneath them to give it a second glance or in other words accept (be complicit in a way) in it.
This goes on essentially because Israel has never created a true Hasbara (which means telling the truth about your history)
Without going into why Israel has never created a true Hasbara (emphasis on “true”) let us go on to place it at the forefront of our Trotskyist calls today on Israel.
Though not a Trotskyist (well he has never said!) Martin Sherman has made the same call for years. Others too.
In the present situation Israel should do only a number of limited things but do them decisively. In future articles we Trotskyists will elaborate on some ideas which we will seek to have discussed (not just among Jewish people either).
But today (one thing at a time) it is Hasbara.
In today’s world that means electronic. There must be a website that all people who want to know will go to and which is very significant in today’s world. I hate to use the example of RT but…
It will hit everything that is happening in the world and the Jews will take a position and that position will be known by all. It may be wrong at times but it will be a P O S I T I O N!!!
Striking while the iron is hot, and hitting all the news events in the world. Here however is the trick! Along with that there is an historical section, amd there is no disconnect between the two.
In other words the two (historical nd contemporary politics) are brought to the fore
No more of Sharon opposing Bush (on the 2003 Iraq invasion and deposing of Saddam) but sadly doing it behind closed doors.
Sharon was sitting on a gold mine and he did not realise it! He had completely the correct position on the Invasión by Bush and his NeoCons. It involved defending Saddam because Saddam was a bulwark against the Iranian Fascists who are now FAR WORSE!
But nobody knew! And to this day nobody knows!!!
Is Israel up to that? I am certain that it is. The reason I am so sure is because as an Irish person and a Trotskyist (or Marxist) I have a very good understanding of the broad outlines of the history of this nation called the Jews.
It is the same certainty that Leon Trotsky had in 1938 when he predicted in very clear terms that the Holocaust was on its way, and that by that late stage it was unavoidable.
A lot depends on this. I place the present situation in the same category (of very late in the day) as Trotsky did in 1938. There will be more articles where we will explain more
It is NOT that Europe any more than America is Antisemitic as is often charged. Most ordinary people care very Little about what is happening between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. They are beset by other issues and other problems.
But the leaderships in both countries ARE Antisemitic. The American Christian evangelists have also in my opinión their own agenda.
I do not know if Bush was evangelical but he was surely close. Yet Bush as far as I remember was the first US President to articulate the deadly Palestinian State scenario. Also Bush did even more damage to Jews and to aiding the Jihad (in my opinión) because his overthrow of Saddam was removing the secularist block to the Jihad, and especially to the most deadly form of the Jihad in Iranian Millenarianism (armed with Nuclear)
It is leadership leadership leadership!
In Ireland as one example there is continaul ANTI ISRAEL political activity by (actually anti-Marxist) leftist groups which are led by Anarchists and by ISM advocates in the IPSC. There are also complete Antisemites in Government and those opposint these Antisemites are pro Two States.
In other words there is no leadership who get to the heart or even raise the central issues concerning the Palestine State, issues well outlined in the recent Martin Sherman article.
There is a complete and utter crisis of leadership in Israel itself, so much so that it is impossible at present for Israel to do what it needs to defend itself.
Ted Belman on http://www.israpundit.org has on the site a number of articles which describe how the Netanyahu Government is now making all the wrong moves.
These wrong moves such as opening the borders of Gaza to the entrance of huge amounts of cement and Steel are going to make further deadly attacks on Jews inevitable.
Every action has a cause and effect and the effect of Netanyahu blocking the overthrow of Hamas in the Protective Edge war is having its effect in spades. It is inexorable.
Having done the wrong thing in the war at every point he and Israel find themselves bereft of self respect.
They therefore are unable to withstand the massive propaganda power wielded by the Nazi inspired American Governments, and the Nazi inspired European Governments.
Such leadership brings on divisions in the people
But please do not blame the people.
For example the people, the ordinary people, are facing daily this same nazi inspired governamce in every country.
Israpundit also covers the moves of Danon. Yes support Danon but critically. Examine carefully the position of Danon. What precisely is he saying? Is that really what is needed? (I will return to that later)
Bust one Hamas lie supported by Israel Jew haters and you have busted all their lies. Vital post for 4international.me and all web readers to see
The Gaza War of 2014 must become a turning point. In the issue of the “Gaza Market Bombing” blamed on Israel, with the usual quota of deaths claimed by the Media like the BBC, all blame on Israel, boo boo Israel, was really an exposure of the way that the Jihad works, through Pallywood. It was the same as the Market bombings in Bosnia carried out, the UN later admitted it, by a Muslim Shell on a Muslim Market. Muslims killing Muslims for political advantage! What is new? 4international will tell exactly what happened last week.
- Israel struck a warehouse attached to a market
- The market was closed when Israel struck
- The warehouse was now on fire
- Seeing an opportunity for Pallywood a team of PLO Gazan Pallywood arrived into the empty market to set up their props and enact Pallywood theatre.
- As they were entering and in particular as one of the team was entering with others the rockets stored in the now blazing outhouse adjoining the market began going off in short sharp bursts of sound, as can be identified on video. One of these fuel propelled rockets skirted along the wall of the market and the Pallywood team were literally lifted off the ground causing quite horrific injuries to this evil but ill-fated Pallywood team of gazan drama queens filled with Antisemitic content and intent
- There followed total chaos and the media had a real event on their hands and the Pallywood actors were caught in a drama inside of a drama, a real drama inside of their own Pallywood drama. The world wide Media works closely through their Palestinian Arab stringers and would be on hand but ready to be controlled by their Hamas Handlers, very similar to what we KNOW abour France 2 and the Mohammed el Dura fakery.
- It has been proved that the initial Daily Telegraph reported that the Market had been closed but that the Telegraph later reported this as the opposite and indeed scrubbing the files so that it was no longer possible to bring it up. Was the Telegraph reporter threatened by Hamas?
- The story then was turned around by all of the Media to make it seem that the Israelis bombed a full market. The Belfast Telegraph for example, a small local Northern Irish paper, who may or may not have a reporter of their own en situ but I feel not, took the whole story and embellished it somewhat. The market was full of people because of the ceasefire, said the Belfast Telegraph. But everybody knew very well that there was no ceasefire in that area, that area was explicitly excluded by Israel, because fire was being received from it. (FQ…That is what I found in studying Yugoslavia and the Media. It was the lifting of stories second, third and more hand that created the Lies, building through that old thing called time into the Big Lie! I found that was exactly how the Srebrenica Lie was built up.
- The great value of the Market bombing and present Media Involvement is that when a system of lies, in this case Pallywood theatre, is in operation it is only necessary to prove one lie in the total chain. JUST ONE! NO MORE THAN ONE IS NEEDED! That is what has happened here
- But it raises great issues as to how not just Israel and the Gaza War but any nation fighting against terrorism can proceed.
- The Netanyahu Government is not bold and it is not original at all in its thinking. It keeps on making the same mistakes and never learning
- Only the revolutionary leadership of the Trotskyist 4international.me can provide an answer.
A big issue for us is the lies of the fake left as on thejournal.ie, continuous commenting lies on that site
We will win. 4international.me which defends Israel inconditionally will win.
A new leadership which is in support of the Jews against Antisemitism must be created in Ireland. This is the only answer to be made to the ISM and IPSC demos held in Ireland on Saturday all opposing the Jewish state of Israel and supporting the Sharia Islamist Hamas. Hamas stands for the enslavement of women and I am sure I saw women on those demos in Ireland!
In fact the Irish people face many very difficult problems at the present time. There is mass unemployment, very high emigration of its youth, great poverty among the working class, homelessness
There is also lethal Antisemitism caused by lethal anti-Jew narratives pushed by groups which call themselves left but in fact are closer to plain Antisemitism. Some of these groups even call themselves Trotskyists but that is a ruse because Leon Trotsky was a defender of the Jews against Antisemitism, and pushed in the 1930s before his murder for the setting up of the Jewish state.
There needs to be a new party, a new leadership, created that will defend Israel against these obnoxious forces in Irish society and http://www.4international.me is committed to doing that
In 1948 Israel forced to defend
DH writes above “The state of israel was founded on what was palestinian territory so how are israel defending their country? “
As I said before there were no “Palestinians” before 1970. The first mention of them as a people in UN documentation was in 1970, proved in the book “Phantom People” based on a careful scrutiny of UN documents.
The statement above is absurd and all assertions by people like DH must be studied closely and researched into.
In fact the League of Nations in 1920 defined Palestine as also including the present Jordan. Israel has not grown but has shrunk since then. It is now less than the size of Munster but even that the Arabs want to shrink again, and Hamas want to obliterate it.
That so many Irish people would come out and support Hamas and oppose the Jewish Homeland is most troubling
This is very much the crisis of the left and their Alliance with Islam. There is no essential difference between Hamas and Morsi who was rejected because he pushed Sharia Law on the Egyptians. I thought everybody knew that!
They are bankrupt those on Israpundit shouting out for massacre of all the Arabs
They shout for massacre by Jews of Arabs because they are politically bankrupt. Their empty shouts are related to their political bankruptcy. They are also completely opposed to socialism, communism and Trotskyism (they glory in the name of Jew but they are communist hatersm that is fascists. …and Ted Belman the editor keeps on his site as main commenter a Fascist who seeks the murder of Trotskyists.
The whole of the Israeli elites are bankrupt and that includes all of the blogs and commenters, all without exception.
The issue for the Jews of Israel, that is the Jews who have found refuge in Islam, a refuge against Antisemitism, is that the capitalist system is changing or morphing towards Fascism and one of the forms of this Fascism is the movement called “Palestinianism”.
The “Palestinians” is or are the continuation of the Third Reich, and coming out of Islam is devoted to one main thing the destruction of the Jewish people.
Jew Hatred in the Koran is not something which occurs. It is the SPRING WHEEL of the Koran.
There is need now for a Trotskyist Party in Israel which will be based on these concepts.
It means in concrete form that what we say is true. The Jews and Muslims cannot live together without the Muslims making war on the Jews.
Thus the Jews must live alone. There can be Muslim friends indeed there can, but they are only friends if they recognise that Jew Hatred in the Koran. That is the first step. Otherwise they are not friends. Then if they recognise this they will insist that they are in Israel only as guests.
www.4international.me is unique in these positions.
It is not just that we are unique in the Jewish struggle to survive as a Jewish nation. We are unique period.
We mirror an event in history which is unique and which all forces struggle to hide. Leon Trotsky as the 1930s came started to emphasise that nation and nationalism were important concepts.
You can say that class is the spring wheel (using that metaphor again)…But nation while not the spring wheel (In that Hess was wrong and Marx right) is still of supreme importance.
Islam does not have nation, that is the central point. But Zionism is the classic national liberation movement far outpacing in every way Irish nationalism.
The great power of Leon Trotsky in the 1930s is really his tenacity more than anything else. He continued to struggle in the midst of enormous personal tragedies.
The Fascist that Ted Belman keeps on Israpundit glories in the murder of Trotsky by Mercader but these Belman cronies weep their crocodile tears over the mirder of the 3 Jewish youth in Hebron
But the legacy of Trotsky in the 1930s is enormous. He came to the rescue of the Jews in the 1930s and was the main advocate for the Jews setting up their state, their territory with spiritual essence also, in the Palestine area.
What Israel and Jews today must do is this: they must take complete possession of Judea and Samaria, every inch of it, and also all of Gaza and Golan, and the world must be told to make provisions for these Muslims. Since Egypt created a cold peace and not a real peace, a coldness which still exists under el Sisi, the land of Sinai must also be taken possession of.
Therefore those are the borders to defend by force of arms, the River, the Sea, the border with Egypt
Meanwhile the Jewish leaders and blogs are nearly silent on the murder of the Christians in Nigeria. That must change. Many things must change. There is above all need for the Trotskyist Party in Israel.
If you agree with us above help us to build it.
This is an article by a Palestinian Arab which is presently being aired. I think he is a business man. He is very fair towards the Jews and Israel and he falls right into one of our perspectives, that of the perspectives for the Middle East of http://www.4international.me, a perspective that is struggling to make itself known to even a few. We believe that Jews must live alone to be protected from Antisemitism…a simple enough concept but ont he elft we are alone in this This Palestinian Arab man will be a welcome guest and that concept I hope he would agree with…at any rate it would be a test. So it fits with our basic concept. Our concept of “living alone” is rooted in our fear and understanding of Antisemitism
(follows interview with a Palestinian Arab and finishes with our thoughts)
The three Israeli teenagers abducted June 12: Gilad Shaar, Naftali Frenkel, and Eyal Yifrach.
Responses such as these should help the world — which has been trying to force a peace agreement with the PA down Israel’s throat — wake up to the reality that the PA is a terrorist organization that has been inciting acts of violence and radicalism, and should be treated as such. Its leaders should be recognized as terrorists who deserve jail rather than a red carpet treatment in Western capitals.
While some argue that freedom of speech is sacred, it seems the only freedom of speech the PA allows is the one that incites terrorism.
The first thing the world should remember is that the PA is now officially united with Hamas, a terrorist organization that pledges to destroy a sovereign nation, Israel, and establish a Muslim caliphate. Financing the PA now is therefore financing terrorism.
Yet, despite uniting with Hamas, the PA will still apparently be receiving generous financing from the U.S., Canada and Europe.
The UK, with the best of intentions, offers an average of $135 million a year to the PA for development; nonetheless, the Guardian newspaper reported that the money, always fungible, was instead being used by the PA to finance terrorist imprisoned in Israeli jails — thus inadvertently financing more terrorism.
In addition, it is no secret that the PA officials have been stealing hundreds of millions of dollars of the aid money intended to improve the livelihoods of my people, the Palestinians, with no sign that Western aid to the PA ever filters down to the Palestinian public.
Instead of financing the PA leaders’ lavish lifestyles, the world might finally start questioning the PA’s institutionalized incitement of terror and hatred to my people which they relay daily through media, education and the religious institutions.
Ever since the PA came into existence, it has been keen to mass-produce and institutionalize the hatred of Jews and also the West. With their government-controlled TV shows that teach children how to kill Jews, and textbooks that preach hatred for Israel, the PA and Hamas are directly and fully responsible for each and every terror act committed by Palestinians, including the kidnapping of the three teenagers.
Is this what the West is so breathless to support?
Ironically, the PA is claiming no responsibility for the kidnappings, however you cannot be running TV, newspapers and social media encouraging terror and the murdering of Jews and then claim that you are innocent when acts of terror happen.
Another reason for kidnapping the three teenagers, of course, is also the regular prisoner-release agreements forced on Israel. Gilad Shalit was kidnapped and held for five years then released in a prisoner exchange agreement for more than 1,000 terrorist prisoners who were let out of jail. Such deals have been openly encouraged and blessed by the PA leader. In other words, the PA encourages the kidnappings of Israelis to exchange them with terror prisoners.
The world should therefore understand Israel’s position when it recently called off releasing yet more terror prisoners in a deal promoted by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry. These releases just encourage the kidnapping of more Israelis.
As a Palestinian, I do not wish for any of my people to be in jail; nonetheless, I cannot sympathize with those who kill children and innocent civilians. I also know that releasing those prisoners in “swaps” sets a bad example, and even encourages more of my people to commit acts of terror: they see they can be released in a few years in a prisoner exchange brokered by the West.
Would the U.S. or Europe agree to give its cities and parts of its soil to a terrorist organization to establish a country the way Secretary Kerry has been pushing Israel to give up most of the West Bank and return to pre-1967 borders?
Also, if the US or any European country were facing terror attacks from any neighboring country, wouldn’t it seek to build a barrier to protect itself from that country? The U.S. already has a fortified wall along parts of its border with Mexico to stop illegal immigration — an offense not by any means close to any of the terrorist acts that have claimed the lives of thousands of Israeli civilians over the years. Therefore, can the world keep blaming Israel for having a security barrier?
Can we Palestinians blame Israel when the barrier never existed before Hamas and the PLO started launching terror attacks on Israel on a daily basis? Yes, the wall looks sad and ugly and depressing, but if Israel’s neighbors proclaim every day that their sole desire is to displace Israel, what else — apart from surrender — can Israel do?
We Palestinians know that Israel welcomed us with open arms before the PA came and brought terror-preaching with it. And yes, there have always been constant acts of Palestinian terrorism. But PA terror has became (sic) a major industry — in which terrorists are pampered, protected, financed, employed, and glorified by the PA — with streets, soccer stadiums and summer camps named after them. And Europe breathlessly joins in.
Israeli measures towards securing the safety of its citizens as well as that of the Palestinians, have been demonized by the world and the so-called Palestinian sympathizers, who choose to ignore the fact that Palestinians’ lives have become harder because of the terrorists and not because of Israel. A Palestinian businessman, for instance, who frequently passes illegally into Israel to buy his products, said: “Most people are mad at those who kidnapped the kids…[because] When they commit such acts, we rejoice, celebrate for Israel’s suffering, then sit down and worry if we will be allowed into Israel for work and medical treatment. To me, such a kidnapping only destroys the livelihood of my four children. This has to stop, for our own sake.”
The Palestinian Authority is a terrorist organization, and its leaders are terrorists who deserve international arrest warrants rather than the red-carpet treatment in Western capitals. The PA has been an inciter of terror; it jeopardizes the safety and livelihoods of Israelis and Palestinians alike.
This tragedy should remind the world that the PA — and organizations like it — is a threat to all of us and should not be rewarded with still more funds for terrorist behaviour. For the sake of both Israel and the Palestinians, it is not Israel but the PA that should be boycotted, excluded and even dissolved.
SOME THOUGHTS FROMA BROAD
Remember here that the BBC calls the ISIL Militants. The BBC does this not once but every single time.
The BBC thus creates an image in the mind of the listener. The image is that the ISIL is not a group of terrorists but a group of militants. They have a militancy for a historical reason which is that they are oppressed. That is the (could we call it subliminal – it is more than subliminal it is very open propaganda) propaganda message poured out day after day by the BBC. The BBC is awash with money and it is paid for by the population. The BBC was talking this very morning on a BBC World Programme of planning to reach half a billion people. A neat trick. The BBC is being paid by the people in order to enslave the minds of those very people. I talk here in an overall and general sense (there IS some good stuff on the BBC)
If the BBC thus creates a subliminal message that ISIL is so and so, then what does the BBC do towards Fatah, Hamas and the “Palestinians”?
In the various studios of the BBC the “Palestinians” can do no wrong. The “Palestinians” for the BBC are the ultimate “victims” of history.
In order to create that picture the BBC has lied about history. The BBC in order to carry off that “The Palestinians are victims” concept has lied about everything (not almost everything but everything) since the beginnings of Zionism.
I mean the whole thing! The whole of the history! Insidious lie after insidious lie!
It is just dishonest treatment of history by the BBC. Very often it is leaving out of certain aspects or factual narrative. I would say that the BBC are absolute “masters” of this technique.
In that latter regard let me tell of one trick or aspect which really gets my rag out!
I actually follow this trick as it is used by two reporters whom I follow in a more or less desultory manner, one doing a BBC weekend morning programme the other is a non BBC programme. The trick is this: It is the selecting of a piece of propaganda by SOMEBODY ELSE, the reporter plays the piece of propaganda, but does not comment. This is a method, a very invidious method, a method of distortion.
Of course there are millions of communists and revolutionists behind www.4international.me and they are just waiting for the word. So all of those conspiracists who think of communism as the great danger to everything will be very worried to hear that we on 4international have just bought a new inkjet printer. It costs about 60 euros and we thought about it. The cost has not broken me financially but I did think what it could be used for and it is not an offset printer churning out millions of copies per hour. (allow for my twisted sense of humour here)
But since that is irony above the real thing that we lack is organization. At this stage we do not want to do much more than tell the truth, first to ourselves, and then to a few more people, but most of all and enduringly to tell the truth to ourselves, and that is hard enough. Not hard in the sense of it being a chore, just difficult.
To conclude…On the above remarkable document. He is a Palestinian Arab. He sees the falseness. He articulates it well. But in the end he is using the Jews of Israel also and there are Jews also who in business use Palestinian Arab cheap labour for profit.
From that latter concept there has to grow up a layer of Israeli Jews who are using the situation for their own gains. But the truth of the matter and of the situation, a situation both historical and contemporary (what happens day in day out with rockets from Gaza onto Sderot last night), it is that Arab Antisemitism which runs right through the whole situation and land is that Jews and Arabs cannot live together. There MUST be separation for the safety of Jews. To keep your feet on the ground and think and act realistically. Is that the basic answer for the Jews of Israel? I think it is a big part of it.