4international.me looks closely at the events in Egypt .
EGYPTIAN NUN…Via “voice of the copts” FB page — August 20th, 2013
This article splits like this
1. A general introduction on where 4international stood on Mubarak
2. A close look at an article by the ANTI trotskyist group called http://www.wsws.org
3. The persecution of Christians under Muslim rule today with special emphasis on the wholesale burning of Christian and Christian Coptic Churches by the forces of Islam in Egypt over the past week
4. Finally draw a balance sheet on this group wsws, as it stands also for much of the deterioration of the Left today and why we must therefore in a determined fashion build a real Trotskyist organization
1. ROLE OF OBAMA AGAINST MUBARAK OPENING DOOR FOR FASCIST MUSLIM BROTHERS
www.4international.me said that Mubarak must be actively defended against both Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. It was obvious to us that Obama was opening the door to the Muslim Brotherhood taking power in Egypt.
WHAT OBAMA DID:
Obama contacted the PLO and Holocaust Denier Mahmoud Abbas as his first phone call
His first overseas visit was in June 2009 to Cairo Islamic University Meeting. There he insisted that the illegal Muslim Brothers be present. Obama told Mubarak to resign and to make way for “democracy” which was code for make way for the Muslim Brotherhood and Sharia
Mubarak as part of the Army Organization in Egypt was the bitter enemy of the Muslim Brotherhood. Groups like www.wsws moved in on this mass movement of Egyptians and said “Let´s remove Mubarak”, let’s go with the mass movement, which was code for let’s go with the Muslim Brothers…thus they were saying exactly the same as Obama.
The www.wsws had become the organ of US Imperialism and they were speaking the same language towards Islam as Obama
It was like a replay of 1933 in Germany all over again.
Why did the wsws and this “Fascist Left” do this? Answer is simple, they are not Trotskyist. Trotsky fought to above all not allow Hitler get his hands on power. But more, like Gerry Healy and Vanessa Redgrave, the www.wsws are infected by the poison of the “Palestinians” Arabs, a poison that runs through the anti-left of today
OUR POSITION was that Mubarak was a cold figure towards Israel and the Jews, and a danger too as was Nasser. But this was a battle between Sharia Fascism and the forces of Army Rule involving secularism. Our position was clear. Defend Mubarak critically to stop the Fascism of the Muslim Brothers. We were unique (alone) on the left.
2. WSWS SYMPATHETIC TO MUSLIM BROTHERS
All articles show this but check out this main article and check where they mention the burning of Coptic Churches by the Muslim Brothers. They do not!
HEADLINE URL ABOVE WHERE WSWS DO NOT ONCE MENTION MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD EGYPT BURNING OF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES
THE TONE OF THE WSWS IS TO DO NOTHING AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD. EMPTY RHETORIC. AS COPTIC CHURCHES ARE TORCHED BY THE FASCISTS THE WWW.WSWS ARE SILENT.
THE WSWS ARE BETRAYING TROTSKYISM BECAUSE A CENTRAL ISSUE HERE IS THE NEED TO OPPOSE THE THEOCRATIC FASCISM AND SHARIA OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
IT IS A LITTLE LIKE WSWS SAYING DO NOTHING TO OPPOSE HITLER. NB THIS GROUP WSWS IS NOT TROTSKYIST! BEWARE OF THEIR CLAIMS!
The US-backed military junta in Egypt continued its violent crackdown over the weekend against any opposition to its dictatorial regime.
On Sunday evening, the military erected barricades and positioned sharpshooters on rooftops to prevent anti-coup demonstrators from marching from six locations in the Egyptian capital Cairo towards the Supreme Constitutional Court.
WRITER OF ABOVE GOES BY THE NAME OF Johannes Stern
and is published on 19 August 2013
IT IS INDEED A SPECIAL CATEGORY OF CYNICISM BY THIS GROUP. DO THEY NOT CARE ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN COPTS!!!
WE ON WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME DO INDEED CARE!
REMEMBER HISTORY WILL SHOW…NO MENTION OF THE MASSIVE ATTACKS ON THE EGYPTIAN CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY THE COPTS, BY THE WSWS, WHERE MASS BURNINGS OF CHURCHES TAKE PLACE BY THE MB…SEE A CHURCH BURN IT IS THE MOTTO…AND WSWS ARE SILENT AND ARE DEFINITELY TACITLY SUPPORTING THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
ON THE OTHER HAND WE ON WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME DEFEND THE COPTIC CHRISTIANS AGAINST THE FASCIST MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
3. THE BBC HAS IGNORED 58 COPTIC CHURCHES TORCHED BY THE MUSLIM BROTHERS. THAT IS THE BBC. WE EXPECT THAT. BUT THE WWW.WSWS WHO CALL THEMSELVES TROTSKYIST. WHAT A BETRAYAL OF TROTSKYISM!
www.4international.me maintain that it is totally vital for socialists to actively defend the Christian Copts of Egypt against the Muslim Brotherhood. The www.wsws.org and the left as a whole do not do this. We on the left are alone. THE FASCIST PRO PALESTINIAN INDYMEDIA IRELAND TOTALLY IGNORE THE TORCHING OF COPTIC CHURCHES.
WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME LIST THE BURNED COPTIC CHURCHES
SOME FACTS THAT WSWS AND INDYMEDIA IRELAND IGNORE:
Cairo (AsiaNews) – At least 58 Christian churches, schools, institutions, homes and shops have been attacked, looted and torched over the last three days by the Muslim Brotherhood and supporters of Mohamed Morsi, the former Egyptian president who was deposed on 3 July . On August 14 the army has tried to evict the sit-in of the Islamists in Rabaa El Nahda Square and Adaweya. In a wave of devastating violence, over 600 people were killed and thousands injured. But violent attacks were also carried out on Catholic, Orthodox, Evangelical churches as well as the homes and shops of Christians, as we have documented.
The representatives of the Christian Churches have drawn up a list which we publish below. The list was handed over to AsiaNews by the Press Office of the Catholic Church in Egypt.
Catholic churches and convents
1. Franciscan church and school (road 23) – burned (Suez) 2. Monastery of the Holy Shepherd and hospital – burned (Suez) 3. Church of the Good Shepherd, Monastery of the Good Shepherd – burned in molotov attack (Asuit) 4. Coptic Catholic Church of St. George – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 5. Church of the Jesuits – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 6. Fatima Basilica – attacked – Heliopolis 7. Coptic Catholic Church of St. Mark – burned (Minya – Upper Egypt) 8. Franciscan convent (Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary) – burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt) 9. Church of St. Teresa – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 10. Franciscan Church and School – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 11. Convent of St Joseph and school – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 12. Coptic Catholic Church of the Sacred Heart – torched (Minya, Upper Egypt) 13 Convent of the Sisters of Saint Mary – attacked (Cairo) 14. School of the Holy Shepherd – attacked (Minya, Upper Egypt)
Orthodox and Evangelical Churches 1. Anglican Church of St. Saviour – burned (Suez) 2. Evangelical Church of St Michael – surrounded and sacked (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 3. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George – Burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 4. Church of Al-Esla – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 5. Adventist Church – burned, the pastor and his wife abducted (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 6. Church of the Apostles – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 7. Church of the Holy renewal – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 8. Diocesan Centre Coptic Orthodox Qusiya – burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 9. Church of St. George – burned (Arish, North Egypt) 10. Church of St. George in al-Wasta – burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt) 11. Church of the Virgin Mary – attacked (Maadi, Cairo) 12. Church of the Virgin Mary – attacked (Mostorod, Cairo) 13. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George – attacked (Helwan, Cairo) 14. Church of St. Mary of El Naziah – burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 15. Church of Santa Damiana – sacked and burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 16. Church of St. Theodore – burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 17. Evangelical Church of al-Zorby – Sacked and destroyed (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 18. Church of St. Joseph – burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 19. Franciscan School – burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 20. Coptic Orthodox Diocesan Center of St. Paul – burned (Gharbiya, Delta) 21. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. Anthony – burned (Giza) 22. Coptic Church of St. George – burned (Atfeeh, Giza) 23. Church of the Virgin Mary and father Abraham – burned (Delga, Deir Mawas, Minya, Upper Egypt) 24. Church of St. Mina Abu Hilal Kebly – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 25. Baptist Church in Beni Mazar – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 26. Church of Amir Tawadros – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 27. Evangelical Church – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 28. Church of Anba Moussa al-Aswad- burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 29. Church of the Apostles – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 30. Church of St Mary – arson attempt (Qena, Upper Egypt) 31. Coptic Church of St. George – burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) 32. Church of Santa Damiana – Attacked and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) 33. Church of the Virgin Mary – burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) 34. Church of St. Mark and community center – burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) 35. Church of Anba Abram – destroyed and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
Christian institutions 1. House of Fr. Angelos (pastor of the church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abraham) – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 2. Properties and shops of Christians – Burnt (Arish, North Egypt) 3. 17 Christian homes attacked and looted (Minya, Upper Egypt) 4. Christian homes – Attach (Asuit, Upper Egypt) 5. Offices of the Evangelical Foundation – burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) 6. Stores, pharmacies, hotels owned by Christians – attacked and looted (Luxor, Upper Egypt) 7. Library of the Bible Society – burned (Cairo) 8. Bible Society – burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) 9. Bible Society- burned (Asuit, North Egypt).
4. BALANCE SHEET…WWW.WSWS AND INDYMEDIA IRELAND HAVE BETRAYED THE CHRISTIAN COPTS OF EGYPT
Balance sheet on the utter deterioration of the left today. The latest example of this reactionary anti Trotskyist group the wsws is today. In the following quote they are moaning on the certainty that Sisi will release Mubarak
Of course Mubarak must be released. After all he was removed by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Note in this final quote from the wsws that they are using left sounding phrases such as that Mubarak was removed by a ”revolutionary uprising of the working class”
No he was not! he was removed by a movement of the Jihad, of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, by a Fascist Movement, which has proved that let loose they would have massacred the Copts. Note please the stakes involved here. Population of Egypt 90 millions. % of Copts is 10%. That makes the possible or certain persecution by the Jihad of 9millions of Christians
The defence of Christians against Jihad is a major revolutionary issue, for revolutionaries, but wsws are not that.
After a week of massacres that have left thousands of unarmed protesters killed or wounded, the Egyptian military junta is moving to free the hated former dictator, Hosni Mubarak, who has sat in prison since a revolutionary uprising of the working class forced his ouster in February 2011.
When a judge cleared Mubarak on corruption charges yesterday, Mubarak’s lawyer Farid el-Deeb told the press: “All we have left is a simple administrative procedure that should take no more than 48 hours. He should be freed by the end of the week.”
FINAL CONCLUSIONS: ABSENCE OF TROTSKYIST LEADERSHIP ALLOWED MUSLIM BROTHERS TO WIN POWER
MASS ACTION OF THE WONDERFUL EGYPTIAN PEOPLE ESPECIALLY OF CAIRO FORCED MORSI OUT OF POWER AND OPENED THE DOOR FOR ARMY ACTION AGAINST THE MUSLIM BROTHERS FASCISTS
THE BATTLE IS NOT OVER. WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME SUPPORT FULLY THE ARMY DICTATORSHIP OVER THE FASCIST SHARIA OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
THE WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME ARE NOT AND NEVER WILL BE PACIFISTS, NO MORE THAN WAS LENIN AND TROTSKY IN 1917
THE FORCE OF THE EGYPTIAN ARMY USED AGAINST THE FASCISTS OF ISLAM HAS PREVENTED THE MURDER OF MILLIONS OF COPTIC CHRISTIANS AND ORDINARY “DISSENTING FROM ISLAM” MUSLIMS TOO
AN ACT OF KINDNESS TO THE WORLD IS TO PUT DOWN THE NAZI FASCISTS OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.
AS AMERICAN CONGRESS IS PARALYSED AMERICAN WORKERS MUST COME FORWARD TO DESTROY OBAMA AND DESTROY THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD INTERNATIONALLY
LATEST DEVELOPMENTS SHOW THAT WWW.4INTERNATIONAL.ME ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AS ISRAEL
VITAL INFORMATION FOLLOWS:
Allies vs. America in Egypt. Israel, Saudis and U.A.E. Support Military Moves (Wall Street Journal)
Israel warns US: Alienating Egyptian army could risk peace talks Jerusalem Post, August 20, 2013
Daily Beast quotes US senator as saying Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend military aid to Egypt.
Israel has urged the US to back the Egyptian military, saying losing Egypt to Islamists could pose a risk the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
According to an Israeli official quoted by the paper, Egypt and Saudi Arabia have traditionally played an important role in providing the Palestinians the support to stay in the negotiations and to make concessions, and without them there is a chance the talks will fail.
According to the report, Israel and the US’s Gulf allies are urging the Obama administration to encourage the Egyptian military to confront rather than reconcile with the Muslim Brotherhood.